so......

[Judge Fudge]

Reading a post in the San Fran board

Mel Kiper has us taking Allen Robinson at 32

Good pick or bad

 

[NinerSickness]

Bad pick.

It'd be much better & more realistic if Seattle took him at 30.

 

[Podunkparte]

it's neither good not bad. Mel Kiper said it so what it is is wrong.

 

[pistlpete]

Bad pick.

It'd be much better & more realistic if Seattle took him at 30.

You're not fooling me.

 

[RegentDenali]

I think it's insanity if the Texans take Johnny Football with the 1st pick in the draft as Mel is claiming. The guy is another Tebow in the making. Amazing college QB, but would get demolished in the NFL playing like that against D's like Seattle, SF, and Saints.

 

[Podunkparte]

Sorry but anyone taking Mel Kiper's opinions (all 35 of them up until draft time) as anything near accurate, especially for the Seahawks, obviously knows less about football than Mel Kiper Jr. I wish people would just ignore everything he says because it's a load of crap every time.

"(Insert name here's) Mock Draft" should be required to read "(Insert name here's) Uninformed Opinion and Nothing More"

 

[SeattleCoug]

Im betting the Hawks have went in a different direction then Mel Kiper almost every year since Carroll got here so I dont think it needs to be taken seriously.

 

[jerseyhawksfan79]

Bad pick.

It'd be much better & more realistic if Seattle took him at 30.

I'd be much happier if we could add two more spots to that 30!

 

[NinerSickness]

In all seriousness I wouldn't draft a WR in this draft in the first round unless his name were Sammy or Marqise. And I'm still a little hesitant on Marqise because of the lack of a U after the Q. That should be a red flag.

There's a gluttony of tackle talent this year,. Seattle should take Tiny Richardson if they're smart. Trade up from 30 if need be.

 

[SonnyCID]

In all seriousness I wouldn't draft a WR in this draft in the first round unless his name were Sammy or Marqise. And I'm still a little hesitant on Marqise because of the lack of a U after the Q. That should be a red flag.

There's a gluttony of tackle talent this year,. Seattle should take Tiny Richardson if they're smart. Trade up from 32 if need be.

You take your players and draft off of your own evaluations. We could say that there is not much talent at WR in the first round, but if you believe in a guy, there's nothing wrong with taking someone that people from the outside may call a reach. Take Richard Sherman for example, 5th round pick, but there are plenty of teams that wish they would have drafted him in the first round. They would have been crucified in the media, but would have gotten the last laugh.

 

[Suhsyourdaddy]

You take your players and draft off of your own evaluations. We could say that there is not much talent at WR in the first round, but if you believe in a guy, there's nothing wrong with taking someone that people from the outside may call a reach. Take Richard Sherman for example, 5th round pick, but there are plenty of teams that wish they would have drafted him in the first round. They would have been crucified in the media, but would have gotten the last laugh.

Playing Captain Hindsight and projecting how a prospect will translate and help your team win games in the NFL are two completely things. In fact there were several Seattle fans calling Percy Harvin the best "pick" in last years draft before any rookie ever reported to training camp. I would highly doubt there is anyone who feels the same today. Obviously you can't predict injuries, but as many pointed out, he is rather injury prone.

Regardless of what Kiper or anyone predicts, with PC and Schneider's drafting ability, you can rest assured whoever you guys get at #30 is bound to be a hell of a player.

 

[SonnyCID]

Playing Captain Hindsight and projecting how a prospect will translate and help your team win games in the NFL are two completely things. In fact there were several Seattle fans calling Percy Harvin the best "pick" in last years draft before any rookie ever reported to training camp. I would highly doubt there is anyone who feels the same today. Obviously you can't predict injuries, but as many pointed out, he is rather injury prone.

Regardless of what Kiper or anyone predicts, with PC and Schneider's drafting ability, you can rest assured whoever you guys get at #30 is bound to be a hell of a player.

Nobody's playing captain hindsight. Just saying that there is talent and impact players all throughout the draft. All à "reach"is some term to describe à pick that deters from some strange consensus that all teams have the same interests and évaluation.

And the last time the niners picked at 30 they hit à home run with AJ Jenkins. Lets hope they have that same success with the pick this year.

 

[Suhsyourdaddy]

Nobody's playing captain hindsight. Just saying that there is talent and impact players all throughout the draft. All à "reach"is some term to describe à pick that deters from some strange consensus that all teams have the same interests and évaluation.

And the last time the niners picked at 30 they hit à home run with AJ Jenkins. Lets hope they have that same success with the pick this year.

Ummm...saying all these teams wish they would have drafted Sherman in the 1st round is the exact definition of playing Captain Hindsight. You better be damn sure you are getting a stud if you draft someone who would be around in the late rounds, in the first round. There certainly are a ton of talented players later on in the draft. People develop at different paces, competition levels are unknown, and combines constantly lie. Who could have possibly known what kind of impact PED's would have had on Richard Sherman?

 

[RegentDenali]

Walter football current mocks have us:

32: Zack Martin, G/OT, Notre Dame
The Seahawks, who can afford to go with the best player available, have multiple areas of concern on their offensive line, including both guard spots. Imagine how potent Russell Wilson would be with upgraded protection.

(R2) 64: Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado
Golden Tate and Doug Baldwin are both impending free agents, but the Seahawks can do better at receiver anyway.

(R4) 128: Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State
The Seahawks are always looking to bolster their pass rush. Will Sutton would've been considered a steal here a year ago, but he's coming off a down season.

 

[Judge Fudge]

i still think OL or CB is the way to go

 

[SonnyCID]

Ummm...saying all these teams wish they would have drafted Sherman in the 1st round is the exact definition of playing Captain Hindsight. You better be damn sure you are getting a stud if you draft someone who would be around in the late rounds, in the first round. There certainly are a ton of talented players later on in the draft. People develop at different paces, competition levels are unknown, and combines constantly lie. Who could have possibly known what kind of impact PED's would have had on Richard Sherman?

Im sure the Seahawks wished they would have drafted him in the first too. Better use of the money than James Carpenter. If anyone would have noticed his potential, they should have nabbed him up regardless of what any other team may think. Thats all im saying. And what do you mean "you better be damn sure"? You better be damn sure your players contribute regardless of where they were slotted to be drafted. A bad pick is a bad pick. Its not like its more acceptable to have bad picks that were highly rated on some consensus board.

And good idea, get your PED-Seahawk excuses ready, you'll need them Sunday.

 

[WizardHawk]

Ummm...saying all these teams wish they would have drafted Sherman in the 1st round is the exact definition of playing Captain Hindsight. You better be damn sure you are getting a stud if you draft someone who would be around in the late rounds, in the first round. There certainly are a ton of talented players later on in the draft. People develop at different paces, competition levels are unknown, and combines constantly lie. Who could have possibly known what kind of impact PED's would have had on Richard Sherman?

Yeah, because RS is the best cover corner in the league because he took an adderall nearly two years ago.

We know you all have to keep that mantra up because once you get sent home Sunday for the off season you need the excuses as to why. I'm sure there will be other classic excuses such as the refs, all of the holding the zebras miss, all of times our defense makes contact that isn't blown as a foul, etc.

All par for the course for the fourty-whiner nation.

 

[Suhsyourdaddy]

Yeah, because RS is the best cover corner in the league because he took an adderall nearly two years ago.

We know you all have to keep that mantra up because once you get sent home Sunday for the off season you need the excuses as to why. I'm sure there will be other classic excuses such as the refs, all of the holding the zebras miss, all of times our defense makes contact that isn't blown as a foul, etc.

All par for the course for the fourty-whiner nation.

So you saw him just take one adderall? I know that's what he says he took, but I didn't see him do it so I didn't know for sure. I'm glad you were actually there so you confirm that yes, in fact it was only one adderall on one occasion. That erases all doubt that I had that he may have been lying and could have been using other banned substances. I know, without a shadow of doubt, that Sherman would have been one of the best CB's in the league with or without whatever it was he took. He was certainly the steal of that draft. I still love how butthurt you guys get when about PED jokes.

 

[Suhsyourdaddy]

Im sure the Seahawks wished they would have drafted him in the first too. Better use of the money than James Carpenter. If anyone would have noticed his potential, they should have nabbed him up regardless of what any other team may think. Thats all im saying. And what do you mean "you better be damn sure"? You better be damn sure your players contribute regardless of where they were slotted to be drafted. A bad pick is a bad pick. Its not like its more acceptable to have bad picks that were highly rated on some consensus board.

And good idea, get your PED-Seahawk excuses ready, you'll need them Sunday.

If you think someone is going to be a stud and you are 99.9% sure you can get them in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or even possibly the 5th round, are you going to use a 1st rounder on him? If you do, you better be damn sure he is going to pan out. If you take someone who grades out as 5th round talent in the 1st round, and the player ends up being a fringe roster type player, I don't think you will have a job for a long time. I agree bad picks are bad picks regardless. AJ Jenkins was a huge bust and a bit of a reach. He was 5th round NFL talent at best, but the game film and combine #'s indicated 1st/2nd round talent. If we would have drafted Danny Coale instead and had the same results, it would look much worse for Baalke.

 

[SonnyCID]

If you think someone is going to be a stud and you are 99.9% sure you can get them in the 2nd, 3rd, 4th, or even possibly the 5th round, are you going to use a 1st rounder on him? If you do, you better be damn sure he is going to pan out. If you take someone who grades out as 5th round talent in the 1st round, and the player ends up being a fringe roster type player, I don't think you will have a job for a long time. I agree bad picks are bad picks regardless. AJ Jenkins was a huge bust and a bit of a reach. He was 5th round NFL talent at best, but the game film and combine #'s indicated 1st/2nd round talent. If we would have drafted Danny Coale instead and had the same results, it would look much worse for Baalke.

And their evaluations based on that. Which is my point. Sure Jenkins didn't work out, but lots of guys dont work out. They may have failed, but at least they trusted their own evaluations, which is a good thing in the long run.