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So, who is the early favorite for SB?

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Cincinnati, New England or Indianapolis vs New Orleans, Green Bay, Seattle or San Francisco
 

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Wasn't Red Bryant also a starter in the Super Bowl?

I'm not sure if he started or not but I read somewhere that he played in about 25 or 30% of the defensive plays in the SB. Red was great and a true Hawk, but virtually every Seahawk fan knew he wasn't going to be on the squad in `14. Same with Clem.
 

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I am not going to make a prediction just yet. I have to see how the draft unfolds. But I think it is silly for anyone to predict the Broncos or Seahawks at this point. Very rarely do teams go to back-to-back Super Bowls. The last time it happened was in 2004.

The Packers are very good pick to go to the Super Bowl. They are a loaded team, from on both sides of the ball, and if they can find a running game and stay healthy, they will be hard to beat. Other teams to look out for would be the Falcons, Saints, Giants, 49ers, and Bears.

On the AFC side, I think it breaks down to either the Patriots, Colts, or Ravens.
So are you trying to tell us you think teams like the Eagles, Colts, and Falcons have better chances of going to the Super Bowl based on the fact they weren't in it last year?

That's just dumb. Correlation does not imply causation. A team having been involved in the previous year's Super Bowl has nothing to do with its chances of being involved in the next.
 

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So are you trying to tell us you think teams like the Eagles, Colts, and Falcons have better chances of going to the Super Bowl based on the fact they weren't in it last year?

That's just dumb. Correlation does not imply causation. A team having been involved in the previous year's Super Bowl has nothing to do with its chances of being involved in the next.

The only thing I could say that would maybe add to the validity teams having a harder road back is the fact that they have then played in more games than other teams the previous year meaning more wear and tear on players' bodies. This is about the only reason I could see being why it would be that much harder to repeat.

To me it is just hard to repeat because the NFL is so close from top to bottom because of the Cap. Bottom dwellers don't take long to rise back up. Seattle and Denver not too long ago were considered at best mediocre teams. A few years later with some nice drafts and FA pick ups and they are Super Bowl contenders. That to me is why it is hard to repeat. Teams can rebuild in a mater of a year or two.
 

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The only thing I could say that would maybe add to the validity teams having a harder road back is the fact that they have then played in more games than other teams the previous year meaning more wear and tear on players' bodies. This is about the only reason I could see being why it would be that much harder to repeat.

To me it is just hard to repeat because the NFL is so close from top to bottom because of the Cap. Bottom dwellers don't take long to rise back up. Seattle and Denver not too long ago were considered at best mediocre teams. A few years later with some nice drafts and FA pick ups and they are Super Bowl contenders. That to me is why it is hard to repeat. Teams can rebuild in a mater of a year or two.



PREACH!!! which is why im enjoying the hell out of this time right now. Although i will say Seattles core is so young right now I think they can last a little while longer. Did you know Earl Thomas is only 25 or 26? Seems like he's been in the league for 10 years already.
 

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So are you trying to tell us you think teams like the Eagles, Colts, and Falcons have better chances of going to the Super Bowl based on the fact they weren't in it last year?

That's just dumb. Correlation does not imply causation. A team having been involved in the previous year's Super Bowl has nothing to do with its chances of being involved in the next.

I don't know what he is trying to tell you. But while there is a better chance of a Hawks vs Broncos Super Bowl than any other SINGLE combo, there is a far better chance of ANY combo other than Hawks vs Broncos than there is of Hawks vs Broncos. While they are the favorites, they are not the "odds on" favorites.
 

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So are you trying to tell us you think teams like the Eagles, Colts, and Falcons have better chances of going to the Super Bowl based on the fact they weren't in it last year?

That's just dumb. Correlation does not imply causation. A team having been involved in the previous year's Super Bowl has nothing to do with its chances of being involved in the next.

Dont need to get your panties in a bunch. Think whats being said is the SB slump, SB hangover or just having the biggest target on their back for winning it all. The facts have shown only 1 team in last 10 years has won a playoff game. Maybe like CD pointed out above is the extra games, taking their toll and off teams have an extra month to evaluate their needs
 

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PREACH!!! which is why im enjoying the hell out of this time right now. Although i will say Seattles core is so young right now I think they can last a little while longer. Did you know Earl Thomas is only 25 or 26? Seems like he's been in the league for 10 years already.

It is possible for the Hawks to stay together somewhat. With contracts coming up for Wilson, Sherman, Thomas, Avril, Wright, and Maxwell that is a lot of money to dish out. I'm guess at least 2 of those players are not on the team next year. For Seattle to stay at the top they are going to have to continue to draft starting caliber players like they have. They seem to have one of the better talent evaluating groups in the NFL so I would expect them to still do pretty well. The same was said about New England though and they haven't won a Super Bowl in over 10 years (given they have been in the hung most years). Plus saw that the head of recruiting for the Seahawks just quit so will be very interested to see how that changes things.
 

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ODDS TO WIN 2015 SUPER BOWL XLIX
Team Odds
Seattle Seahawks 6/1
Denver Broncos 6/1
San Francisco 49ers 8/1
New England Patriots 8/1
Green Bay Packers 15/1
New Orleans Saints 20/1
Philadelphia Eagles 25/1
San Diego Chargers 30/1
Indianapolis Colts 35/1
Houston Texans 35/1
Baltimore Ravens 35/1
Pittsburgh Steelers 35/1
Kansas City Chiefs 35/1
Cincinnati Bengals 40/1
Chicago Bears 40/1
Arizona Cardinals 45/1
Carolina Panthers 50/1
New York Giants 50/1
Atlanta Falcons 50/1
Detroit Lions 60/1
Tampa Bay Buccanneers 60/1
St Louis Rams 60/1
Miami Dolphins 60/1
Dallas Cowboys 65/1
New York Jets 70/1
Washington Redskins 75/1
Cleveland Browns 75/1
Tennessee Titans 75/1
Buffalo Bills 80/1
Minnesota Vikings 100/1
Jacksonville Jaguars 225/1
Oakland Raiders
 

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laying down 1g on the Raiders
 

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It is possible for the Hawks to stay together somewhat. With contracts coming up for Wilson, Sherman, Thomas, Avril, Wright, and Maxwell that is a lot of money to dish out. I'm guess at least 2 of those players are not on the team next year. For Seattle to stay at the top they are going to have to continue to draft starting caliber players like they have. They seem to have one of the better talent evaluating groups in the NFL so I would expect them to still do pretty well. The same was said about New England though and they haven't won a Super Bowl in over 10 years (given they have been in the hung most years). Plus saw that the head of recruiting for the Seahawks just quit so will be very interested to see how that changes things.


Your right, They will lock up the core, Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor (is already) and Wilson. Bennett (already is)

Maxwell has proven to be a potential star, Wagner is a rock solid MLB, Avrils coming up after next year. All those guys wont be able to be kept..... They just need to keep finding Sherman and maxwells (5th rounders) and Browners (ufa playing in canada) Malcolm smith superbowl mvp, 7th round, doug baldwin UDFA, Chancellor (4th round)

Those are alot of reasons im confident in Seattles staying ability. Then you add in that seattles first pick 2nd rounder last year was a RB....already planning for when Lynch is a RFA after 2 more years and hits 30?
 

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It is possible for the Hawks to stay together somewhat. With contracts coming up for Wilson, Sherman, Thomas, Avril, Wright, and Maxwell that is a lot of money to dish out. I'm guess at least 2 of those players are not on the team next year. For Seattle to stay at the top they are going to have to continue to draft starting caliber players like they have. They seem to have one of the better talent evaluating groups in the NFL so I would expect them to still do pretty well. The same was said about New England though and they haven't won a Super Bowl in over 10 years (given they have been in the hung most years). Plus saw that the head of recruiting for the Seahawks just quit so will be very interested to see how that changes things.

Hmmm 9 years my friend Still forever
 

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Ton of value with Bears, Bengals and Cowboys.
 

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I think the Bears and Panthers are SIGNIFICANTLY worse this year. Panthers lost a ton of great players. No chance for a SB.

For the NFC, it could be just about anyone out of the NFC West, Saints or Packers. AFC is harder. It seems primed for someone to surprise. I hope it's not Denver, but probably will be.
 

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Your right, They will lock up the core, Sherman, Thomas, Chancellor (is already) and Wilson. Bennett (already is)

Maxwell has proven to be a potential star, Wagner is a rock solid MLB, Avrils coming up after next year. All those guys wont be able to be kept..... They just need to keep finding Sherman and maxwells (5th rounders) and Browners (ufa playing in canada) Malcolm smith superbowl mvp, 7th round, doug baldwin UDFA, Chancellor (4th round)

Those are alot of reasons im confident in Seattles staying ability. Then you add in that seattles first pick 2nd rounder last year was a RB....already planning for when Lynch is a RFA after 2 more years and hits 30?

They have potential to stay like I said. Doesn't mean they are always going to draft as well as they have though. New England for a long time was known as the gold standard for drafting but even the last few years people have began to question how they are going about it. Many of their players have busted. They have had staying power mostly because of Brady and BB being present. Can't beat a good quarterback and coach combo which again Seattle has so I don't see them falling off too much even with a couple of bad drafts. It does seem though tougher to stay at the top than to get to the top.
 

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Hmmm 9 years my friend Still forever

Oh sorry trying to get ahead of myself. Maybe I am just hoping for 10 as that would mean one less team for the Broncos to compete with for the Super Bowl.
 

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I think the Bears and Panthers are SIGNIFICANTLY worse this year. Panthers lost a ton of great players. No chance for a SB.

For the NFC, it could be just about anyone out of the NFC West, Saints or Packers. AFC is harder. It seems primed for someone to surprise. I hope it's not Denver, but probably will be.

Can't speak for the Panthers but the Bears are headed in the right direction. They have vastly upgraded their defense this offseason. They won 8 games last year with the statistically worst defense in Bears history. They should be a playoff team this year baring terrible injuries.
 

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Oh sorry trying to get ahead of myself. Maybe I am just hoping for 10 as that would mean one less team for the Broncos to compete with for the Super Bowl.

I think Broncos and Pats have had the only QB's that took their team to 5 SB's. Hopefully TB has another 1 in tank before he rides off in the sunset with Giselle
 

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Can't speak for the Panthers but the Bears are headed in the right direction. They have vastly upgraded their defense this offseason. They won 8 games last year with the statistically worst defense in Bears history. They should be a playoff team this year baring terrible injuries.


Cutty needs to prove himself before they get the nod........When you basically lose your job to a mcown boy..... yikes
 

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Cutty needs to prove himself before they get the nod........When you basically lose your job to a mcown boy..... yikes

Yeah have to agree with this. Cutler has proven very little other than to be injury prone. Green Bay looks like the safer bet to win the division and depending on the draft I could see Detroit leap frog Chicago and maybe even Minnesota be in the running. That is a tough division to guess right now.
 
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