So am I still the only one that thinks.....

[Sharkinva]

Firing Shanahan was a mistake?? At least we would have a running game right now. Week in and week out, we see a Redskins team with a coach who feels that he can pass the ball in any situation and wonder why we end up losing by ten points at a pop.

Now some one remind me who we are losing to next week??

 

[Freeforall]

Firing Shanahan was a mistake?? At least we would have a running game right now. Week in and week out, we see a Redskins team with a coach who feels that he can pass the ball in any situation and wonder why we end up losing by ten points at a pop.

Now some one remind me who we are losing to next week??

Titans, and it's "Homecoming Week" for the Skins

 

[Stymietee]

Firing Shanahan was a mistake?? At least we would have a running game right now. Week in and week out, we see a Redskins team with a coach who feels that he can pass the ball in any situation and wonder why we end up losing by ten points at a pop.

Now some one remind me who we are losing to next week??

Next up Titans............Naw, firing MS was the right thing to do, he was not going give up control of player personnel. BTW: promoting B. Allen to GM as a result could be the basis from which to argue your point. As Dedicated proven GM > MS > than Allen.

 

[Sharkinva]

We fired Shanahan for the wrong reason. We promoted Allen for the wrong reason, and we brought in Gruden for the wrong reason. Its week six and we are basically already wondering about the draft for fuck sake. And does any one REALLY think we have a shot at winning next week??

 

[eamines]

Firing Shanahan was a mistake?? At least we would have a running game right now. Week in and week out, we see a Redskins team with a coach who feels that he can pass the ball in any situation and wonder why we end up losing by ten points at a pop.

Now some one remind me who we are losing to next week??

Shark. At this point, It doesn't matter who the coach is. This franchise needs a culture change, unfortunately, Snyder's not going anywhere. It seems marketing is the number one priority, not fielding a competitive team, year in, and year out. We need some of the old alumni back, to teach these players about Redskins pride. There are a few former players doing very well as coaches, right now. It couldn't hurt to give them a call, after the season is over. Oh yeah! Next weeks beat down, will come courtesy of the Titans.

 

[Freeforall]

We fired Shanahan for the wrong reason. We promoted Allen for the wrong reason, and we brought in Gruden for the wrong reason. Its week six and we are basically already wondering about the draft for fuck sake. And does any one REALLY think we have a shot at winning next week??

At first I thought we could beat the Titans were a bad team. And thats all Kirk can do is beat horrible teams(Browns and Jags) or come in off the bench and beat a team. So, no they can't.

 

[Sharkinva]

Shark. At this point, It doesn't matter who the coach is. This franchise needs a culture change, unfortunately, Snyder's not going anywhere. It seems marketing is the number one priority, not fielding a competitive team, year in, and year out. We need some of the old alumni back, to teach these players about Redskins pride. There are a few former players doing very well as coaches, right now. It couldn't hurt to give them a call, after the season is over. Oh yeah! Next weeks beat down, will come courtesy of the Titans.

This team has no culture. And every time we get a coach in who might actually be able to instill some of that, he gets fired. Sadly we are going to watch as they spend the next three years trying to make this into some sort of high powered offense. And I dont see any alumni in their right mind stepping into this mess.

 

[Mitziman]

We fired Shanahan for the wrong reason. We promoted Allen for the wrong reason, and we brought in Gruden for the wrong reason. Its week six and we are basically already wondering about the draft for fuck sake. And does any one REALLY think we have a shot at winning next week??

The Redskins will continue this struggle until their starting quarterback is back...Cousins is a back up, period. Have you seen enough to think differently? Or do you need to see more of his 23 turnovers in 12 games? That is Frick'in ridiculous, and unacceptable!

Sure, it looks like RG3 might be glass...but, when healthy, you can't deny he is one of the better quarterbacks in the league. When/if he gets healthy this year, he's the starter. If he plays the rest of the season without injury, he's the QB next year. But, if RG3 suffers another injury, well its time to draft another one...because, #8 is NOT AN NFL STARTING QB!

Shark, you honestly think with a healthy RG3...the Skins would have the same record? Please. And, no the firing of Shanahan was not a mistake.

HTTR!

 

[Sharkinva]

The Redskins will continue this struggle until their starting quarterback is back...Cousins is a back up, period. Have you seen enough to think differently? Or do you need to see more of his 23 turnovers in 12 games? That is Frick'in ridiculous, and unacceptable!

Sure, it looks like RG3 might be glass...but, when healthy, you can't deny he is one of the better quarterbacks in the league. When/if he gets healthy this year, he's the starter. If he plays the rest of the season without injury, he's the QB next year. But, if RG3 suffers another injury, well its time to draft another one...because, #8 is NOT AN NFL STARTING QB!

Shark, you honestly think with a healthy RG3...the Skins would have the same record? Please. And, no the firing of Shanahan was not a mistake.

HTTR!

Yep... 100% IN fact I think had Rg3 not have gotten hurt, we would be 0-6.

 

[Stymietee]

Shark. At this point, It doesn't matter who the coach is. This franchise needs a culture change, unfortunately, Snyder's not going anywhere. It seems marketing is the number one priority, not fielding a competitive team, year in, and year out. We need some of the old alumni back, to teach these players about Redskins pride. There are a few former players doing very well as coaches, right now. It couldn't hurt to give them a call, after the season is over. Oh yeah! Next weeks beat down, will come courtesy of the Titans.

Thanks for posting this....here's why! I didn't really think about the marketing angle from this game, but there it was.....Dan Snyder sitting with Native Americans in a not so veiled attempt at PR. I'm not sure that he's really interested in anything but the bottom line. Wouldn't it have been better if his GM was in that booth with him, evaluating and convincing the owner to commit the team to the changes that are necessary. I really don't want to get into the whole name change thing.......I didn't bring it up....Mr. Snyder did!!!

 

[SkinFaninATL]

The Redskins will continue this struggle until their starting quarterback is back...Cousins is a back up, period. Have you seen enough to think differently? Or do you need to see more of his 23 turnovers in 12 games? That is Frick'in ridiculous, and unacceptable!

Sure, it looks like RG3 might be glass...but, when healthy, you can't deny he is one of the better quarterbacks in the league. When/if he gets healthy this year, he's the starter. If he plays the rest of the season without injury, he's the QB next year. But, if RG3 suffers another injury, well its time to draft another one...because, #8 is NOT AN NFL STARTING QB!

Shark, you honestly think with a healthy RG3...the Skins would have the same record? Please. And, no the firing of Shanahan was not a mistake.

HTTR!

That's just the bottom line. Kirk Cousins is a back up. After today, I'm totally done. I was never sold in the first place. I was not impressed, last year and definitely not impressed, this year. He's just a magnet for INTs. Him and RGIII do not compare.

People can say that Kirk Cousins fits the offense better. Hmmm!? I can't tell at this point. I can't wait to RGIII comes back. People have jumped off the bandwagon. I, for one, cannot and will not. I know what he did in 2012 was not an abhor ration. Not to mention, he was not horrible, last year, considering he probably shouldn't have played. He had some pretty good games, but special teams woes, bad play-calling, and bad defense made the Skins record worst than what it was. In RGIII's first game, this year, he was doing fairly well. In the first game, he was 29-37 276 0TDs and 0INTs. He should've had a TD, but it was fumbled by Niles Paul. Prior to the injury against the Jags, he threw a 57 yard strike to DeSean, but it got called back. Then, he hit Jackson for a strike, prior to hurting his ankle on the way out of bounds.

Coming into the season, I was worried about RGIII's health, not as a player on the field. I am very sure that RGIII is going to come back and do well. Will he be 2012 RGIII? No! Will he make plays and not be a turnover machine? I'm sure he will. Word is, he is likely to come back on the 27th of October against the Cowboys. I can't wait. I'm tired of seeing our backup completing passes to the other team.

 

[j_y19]

Thanks for posting this....here's why! I didn't really think about the marketing angle from this game, but there it was.....Dan Snyder sitting with Native Americans in a not so veiled attempt at PR. I'm not sure that he's really interested in anything but the bottom line. Wouldn't it have been better if his GM was in that booth with him, evaluating and convincing the owner to commit the team to the changes that are necessary. I really don't want to get into the whole name change thing.......I didn't bring it up....Mr. Snyder did!!!

Sty, Here we agree. These little gimmicks by Snyder are inane and do not further any cause he is trying to achieve. No one believes that Snyder really wanted or cared about the guests he had in the box. He did it for image purposes only. In fact, this typifies the issues with the Redskins since his ownership. Its all about image. Go for the flash, not the meat.

At this point, the skins should not think they could beat anybody. Its the same story every week. It is about the players, but is also about the coaching. But more importantly, its about the culture. The culture is the Redskins is not about winning, but about making money. Are we worse off without shanahan as our HC? Maybe. But he did deserve to be fired. Not so much for his coaching, but how he lost control of his team and his antics last year. While he was put it a difficult situation, he completely mishandled it and his true stripes came out.

 

[Davis_Mike]

I was at the game. To me, it looks like Cousins can't read a defense when it drops into zone. Sure he played well, but most of his throws were quick outs & WR screens. Once the Cardinals adjusted & stopped playing mainly 1-on-1, he had trouble. If you bring pressure & he makes the quick read & throw against 1-on-1 coverage, he can be successful.

 

[Sportster 72]

Shanahan had to go because of all the CSI/crap that happened after Griffin's injury. I never bought the " it was Shanahan's fault" line. Looks like the same old D Haz coached the last 4 years. Kyle is doing well in Cleveland. I think the problem is still in DC.

 

[skinsdad62]

shark you are unbelievable sometimes

you tried to sell me that haslett was 'handcuffed " by shanahan and we would see the "real redskins defense " instead we have the same crap haslett has pushed his entire career

then you tell me KC should have gotten a chance at the starting job . that Rg3 is MV2 and KC will show us what a real offense looks like. last year the team "quit " and you cant judge that was the refrain

you tell me our o/line is undercover great yet time in and time out they let us down . watch KC rush through progressions because he doesnt trust the o/line either

what is AM's yards per carry with KC ? Rg3 covered up a lot of bad run blocking

and my last point is who put these players on the roster ? shanny did . sure gruden added his draft class, lavaou , porter , Djax hatcher and a few others but this is mostly shanny's team that HE drafted traded for and signed

the one thing you dont want to admit to is the LOS is a shambles the secondary is weak and we need some draft classes brought in here to compete

instead we will spend another off season debating Rg3 because you cant see the tree through the forest

i told you this team lacked talent . i told you it was a 6-10 team but you and others wouldnt hear of it because you all couldnt get past Rg3

look past that open your eyes and see what needs to happen here

until we decide what type of qb we want , build the LOS , and get some stability here , this will be par for the course . and now 6 of the last 7 years we will be in last place and the next jack wagon (dean) that comes and tells me how much talent we have will be textually shot for blind stupidity

 

[Darrell Green Fan]

LMAO at the posters who wanted to blame RGIII for all of the losing. I'll have to go find that "no excuses" thread and enjoy some light reading.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Yep... 100% IN fact I think had Rg3 not have gotten hurt, we would be 0-6.

You are definitely obsessed with RG3 (to the point where you have to take barbs at him in your signature). It almost appears like you are even blaming him for the current results where is not even playing! Lol.

You have no idea how he would have done at this pt. There is absolutely no reason to think that the team would not have at least won the Jags game if he was not hurt. As for the other games - he could not have done worse since they were all losses. At least RG3 has mixed results in the win-loss area between his two seasons. Cousins is pretty much consistent in losing (not saying it is all his fault - just like the losses for RG3 were not all his fault).

If you are a Redskins fan why would you at least not want RG3 to return to see if perhaps he can get the job done? If he fails - big deal - nothing lost & they go in another direction at QB.

I am still confused about why you hate RG3 so much.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

Shanahan had to go because of all the CSI/crap that happened after Griffin's injury. I never bought the " it was Shanahan's fault" line. Looks like the same old D Haz coached the last 4 years. Kyle is doing well in Cleveland. I think the problem is still in DC.

Agree. Also - for lots of teams if some part of the team is doing very poorly then the head coach is often axed along with the coordinator. With the dysfunctional mess at the end of last season I believe that just about any other owner in the NFL would have fired Shanahan (not to imply that Snyder is not also guilty but the owner is not going to sell the team in that type of situation).

Certainly Haslett is a part of this & you have to believe that he will not be around next season. However - obviously there are other issues that need to be addressed.

 

[Sharkinva]

You are definitely obsessed with RG3 (to the point where you have to take barbs at him in your signature). It almost appears like you are even blaming him for the current results where is not even playing! Lol.

You have no idea how he would have done at this pt. There is absolutely no reason to think that the team would not have at least won the Jags game if he was not hurt. As for the other games - he could not have done worse since they were all losses. At least RG3 has mixed results in the win-loss area between his two seasons. Cousins is pretty much consistent in losing (not saying it is all his fault - just like the losses for RG3 were not all his fault).

If you are a Redskins fan why would you at least not want RG3 to return to see if perhaps he can get the job done? If he fails - big deal - nothing lost & they go in another direction at QB.

I am still confused about why you hate RG3 so much.

One my signature is more a shot at the people constantly defending him more than at the player. And two, I do believe we would be just as bad, and likely worse if Rg3 were healthy and starting. Dont get me wrong, Cousins has his flaws which are quite evident at this point. But I dont think Rg3 is a fit for what Gruden wants to do. Three, I never even mentioned RG3 in my original post. I simply stated that I still think the real mistake was in firing the coach. Some one asked if I thought we would be better right now with Rg3 and I gave my honest opinion.

 

[SoCalWizFan]

One my signature is more a shot at the people constantly defending him more than at the player. And two, I do believe we would be just as bad, and likely worse if Rg3 were healthy and starting. Dont get me wrong, Cousins has his flaws which are quite evident at this point. But I dont think Rg3 is a fit for what Gruden wants to do. Three, I never even mentioned RG3 in my original post. I simply stated that I still think the real mistake was in firing the coach. Some one asked if I thought we would be better right now with Rg3 and I gave my honest opinion.

OK - fair enough. If your Gruden comment is accurate then that is pretty scary & doesn't say much for Gruden. A good coach should be able to adapt to his talent & not force feed a system on anyone. Like I stated after the Seahawks game - with RG3 the Skins should run a system like theirs. Don't attempt to have RG3 always in the pocket like Cousins. Mix it up - and have him still use his mobility but in a less risky way similar to Wilson. Common sense would tell you that is the correct approach (and we really don't know Gruden's thoughts in this area - we are just speculating).

Again - I want what is best for the team & want either guy to succeed. However - after yesterday - I am almost ready to give up on Cousins. He might correct his flaws that result in picks, but I don't see it anytime soon. I was more down on RG3 earlier but actually believe that there is more hope in correcting his flaws. However - it doesn't look that great for either right now (and that is why I want to see RG3 get another shot).