Shitsburg at Champs 8/10

[msgkings322]

The time to trade durty was last off season.

He was coming off a damn good year, and looked like he had finally put it all together.

That's hindsight for you...why would we trade a pitcher coming off a damn good year looking like he'd finally put it all together?

 

[Stokes1931]

Watching OC bat and field, I miss Stamos.

 

[mistgl]

That is where his impatience and lack of discipline really hurt him. He's fine when he is being challenged but when they work around him he is not disciplined enough to take what he is given ala Barry Bonds.

You just couldn't resist, could you?

A chance to start over fresh and actually engage in quality baseball talk, but you just have to try and start controversy.

 

[msgkings322]

Watching OC bat and field, I miss Stamos.

Field, yes obviously. Bat? Not so much.

 

[Stokes1931]

That's hindsight for you...why would we trade a pitcher coming off a damn good year looking like he'd finally put it all together?

We usually trade FOR people in this position, and who have just hit the top of the roller coaster.

 

[tzill]

brutal game; baserunners all over the fucking place and not a clutch hit to be found.

 

[HarbaughHooey]

There are just too many holes in the lineup to get a decent rally going.

 

[tzill]

You mean like this:

You and me GP...it's like telepathy....

 

[Stokes1931]

Gentlemen- no walks and nine strikeouts today so far.

Plate patience be damned...blip...Plate patience be damned...blip...Plate patience be damned...blip...Plate patience be damned...blip...Plate patience be damned...blip...Plate patience be damned...blip...

 

[gp956]

That is where his impatience and lack of discipline really hurt him. He's fine when he is being challenged but when they work around him he is not disciplined enough to take what he is given ala Barry Bonds.

Why would a pitcher ever challenge him if the best way to get him out is to throw him slop?

 

[HarbaughHooey]

You just couldn't resist could you?

A chance to start over fresh and actually engage in quality baseball talk, but you just have to try and start controversy.

Do you think Sandoval is a disciplined hitter? Not sure that is a surprise to anyone or controversial.

 

[Stokes1931]

Field, yes obviously. Bat? Not so much.

Well, at least Stamos would work an occasional walk. OC tends to be one and done on pitches.

 

[gp956]

You and me GP...it's like telepathy....

I'd give you the first shot...since you're 5' 3" and all, perfect height to deliver that punch.

 

[tzill]

You just couldn't resist, could you?

A chance to start over fresh and actually engage in quality baseball talk, but you just have to try and start controversy.

As if any of us have EVER seen another hitter with as good an eye as Barry Bonds.

Nicely played, Fud. Already starting with the logical fail.

 

[calsnowskier]

They shopped him. Didn't like the return.

AND...

They wanted him themselves.

Catch 22 there. If a guy doesn't perform, you want to trade him, but you can't get anything. If he does perform, than you can get something, but you don't want to part with him.

See Also: Schierholtz, Nate; Ishikawa, Travis; Williams, Jerome

 

[HarbaughHooey]

Why would a pitcher ever challenge him if the best way to get him out is to throw him slop?

They did challenge him in the first inning and they paid for it. I'd like to see him wait for some better pitches but I don't think they will throw him good pitches until they have to. As long as he swings at slop, as you call it, I agree, why throw him a strike? He's got to force the issue by taking some walks and not be afraid to leave it up to the hitters behind him.

 

[tzill]

I'd give you the first shot...since you're 5' 3" and all, perfect height to deliver that punch.

Yeah, but a chick that hot would never let me get close enough, what with all my acne and coke bottle glasses....

 

[msgkings322]

Well, at least Stamos would work an occasional walk. OC tends to be one and done on pitches.

Ever notice he almost always is batting in an 0-2 count?

I agree the guy sucks, but with the bat just slightly less than Stamos.

 

[msgkings322]

AND...

They wanted him themselves.

Catch 22 there. If a guy doesn't perform, you want to trade him, but you can't get anything. If he does perform, than you can get something, but you don't want to part with him.

See Also: Schierholtz, Nate; Ishikawa, Travis; Williams, Jerome

Precisely.

 

[tzill]

They did challenge him in the first inning and they paid for it. I'd like to see him wait for some better pitches but I don't think they will throw him good pitches until they have to. As long as he swings at slop, as you call it, I agree, why throw him a strike? He's got to force the issue by taking some walks and not be afraid to leave it up to the hitters behind him.

Thanks Captain Obvious. How did we ever get along without your cogent insight? BTW, how'd that whole "Zito will have a good year" thing work out?

Did you mean in Richmond?