Senior Bowl information

ChrisPozz · Jan 23, 2012

Nothing already on this? For those that are familiar with the old Senior Bowl threads I've put work into in the past on the ESPN board I'll try and do what I normally do for this event. Clyde, or another one of the moderators, if you think it's worth it you could mark this so it goes to the top of the page. This has been a fun thread in the past for people to keep going back to for a while.

Here are the rosters again if you need them:

Official Website of the Senior Bowl: Game History

Ray_Dogg · Jan 23, 2012

Thank you Pozz. I stuck it for you.

ChrisPozz · Jan 23, 2012

Thanks, Ray. As I type this they are still adding in the weigh-in results.

Senior Bowl Weigh-In Results, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com

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ChrisPozz · Jan 23, 2012

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Senior Bowl Weigh Ins

ChrisPozz · Jan 23, 2012

Senior Bowl Weigh-In Results | National Football Post

clyde_carbon · Jan 23, 2012

I was just coming in to make this thread. Thanks Pozz.

clyde_carbon · Jan 23, 2012

I really like the weigh-in for Doug Martin. 5'9 219. He's one of the few RBs that I'd love to see in a 49ers uniform next year if he's available in the right round.

clyde_carbon · Jan 23, 2012

NFL teams see just how short Russell Wilson and Kellen Moore are | ProFootballTalk

freaak · Jan 23, 2012

Thanks, CP. Looking forward to all you draft geeks' input.

I like some of these WRs measurables.

BINGO · Jan 23, 2012

Originally Published: January 23,

2012Talent, QB questions at Senior Bowl

Overall talent level is high in Mobile, but all QB prospects have something to prove

By Todd McShayESPN.com
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Todd McShay previews the Senior Bowl.

Senior Bowl week begins Monday, and there's no denying this week's NFL draft showcase is the premier college all-star event in terms of talent.

Of the 14 seniors in my latest ranking of the top 32 overall prospects for the 2012 draft, 11 will be in Mobile, Ala., looking to impress NFL talent evaluators. Many other prospects on the rosters carry early-round grades, which will make for plenty of intriguing matchups during practices and give prospects a chance to be measured against some of the top players at their positions.

Here's a quick breakdown of the 11 prospects who enter the week in the first-round mix.

Quinton Coples needs to show a good motor to go with his physical tools.

North Carolina DE Quinton Coples (Grade: 95): He has excellent size (6-foot-61, 272 pounds) and an unusual blend of power and quickness, but Coples could have played with more urgency as a senior. He'll be looking to answer questions about his motor and work ethic.

Clemson DE Andre Branch (93): A good pass-rusher and solid all-around player, Branch produced big plays in spurts and had only one dominant season (2011). He needs to stand out as one of the top pass-rushers in Mobile to lock down a spot in the top 20 picks.

Alabama S Mark Barron (93): He has some limitations in man coverage, but Barron does everything else at a high level. He plays the game hard, is versatile, and has a coach-on-the-field quality that very few college defenders display.

Alabama OLB Courtney Upshaw (93): A versatile defender who projects as a 3-4 outside linebacker at the next level. We're looking forward to watching his initial burst during pass-rush drills, because there are questions about whether he has the "get-off" to be consistently productive as an edge rusher in the NFL.

South Carolina DL Melvin Ingram (92): An athletic 276-pounder with a nose for the football, Ingram seems to always be in on big plays. He notched 10 sacks, two interceptions, one fumble recovery and two defensive touchdowns as a senior.

Penn State DT Devon Still (91): A top-heavy tackle with a very quick first step, Still is a bit overrated as an athlete and his motor runs hot and cold. He needs a strong week to solidify a first-round grade.

Arizona QB Nick Foles (90): An underrated prospect who made big strides as a decision maker and leader in 2011. Foles lacks ideal mobility but is improved in terms of pocket presence.

Nebraska CB Alfonzo Dennard (90): An an athletic corner who struggled through injuries as a senior, Dennard was also kicked out of Nebraska's bowl game for fighting with South Carolina WR Alshon Jeffery. Needless to say, Dennard needs to impress this week in order to stem the bleeding.

Clemson DT Brandon Thompson (89): A powerful run defender with a big trunk who flashes the ability to collapse the pocket from the inside. Thompson will leave some plays on the field, but he has first-round natural ability.

Florida State OT Zebrie Sanders (88): A fast-rising prospect who took advantage of the opportunity to play left tackle when teammate Andrew Datko suffered a season-ending shoulder injury in October. Sanders is vying to be the fourth OT prospect off the board, possibly late in the first round.

Baylor WR Kendall Wright (88): One of the most dynamic offensive weapons in the draft, Wright was on receiving end of many of highlight-reel throws from Bears QB Robert Griffin III during Griffin's Heisman-winning season. Wright is a terrific athlete with quickness, speed and elusiveness, and we expect a big week from him in Mobile.

Quarterback questions

The quarterback group took a bit of a hit when Texas A&M's Ryan Tannehill (91) was forced to opt out after surgery for a broken foot, but all six quarterbacks in Mobile have a chance to be drafted, including three in the first two days. Here's what each is facing this week.

His arm strength is well known, but Nick Foles must prove his pocket presence.

Foles: He should impress NFL evaluators with his accuracy and arm strength, and will also look to show good decision-making and footwork.

Oklahoma State's Brandon Weeden (79): He has a quick release and strong arm, but Weeden's accuracy and decision-making were spotty in 2011. He got away with a lot of questionable throws and decisions due to the Cowboys' wide-open offense and the ability of WR Justin Blackmon to bail him out. How will Weeden perform on a level playing field compared to other top prospects?

Michigan State's Kirk Cousins (72) His intangibles are through the roof and he played better versus top competition as a senior, but does Cousins have the physical tools to warrant Day 2 consideration?

San Diego State's Ryan Lindley (49) Has a strong arm but was wildly inconsistent, though Lindley was victimized by a young receiving corps that dropped a lot of balls in 2011. He has been working on being more consistent with his mechanics, and Lindley has a chance to improve his draft stock if his accuracy is better during the practice week. He currently projects as a Day 3 pick.

Boise State's Kellen Moore (47): Like with Wisconsin's Russell Wilson, the closer Moore is to 6 feet, the better it will be for his stock. He's also looking to show NFL scouts he's capable of finding passing windows and reading entire field from inside the pocket.

Wisconsin's Russell Wilson (40): Marginal height is the biggest strike against Wilson, who might be a first-round pick if he were four inches taller. Wilson is expected to measure in the 5-foot-11 range, but anything shorter will do severe damage to his Day 3 draft stock.

BINGO · Jan 23, 2012

Five with something to prove

Janoris Jenkins looked like a first-rounder at Florida. Did he maintain that at North Alabama?

North Alabama CB Janoris Jenkins (87): Jenkins was a sure first-round prospect on tape in 2010, but then he was kicked off the team at Florida following off-field issues and took a step down to Division II. He must prove he has maintained his elite skill level, and interviews during the week will be critical as he tries to ease concerns about multiple off-field issues.

Ohio State OT Mike Adams (83): Adams also served a suspension (five games) due to NCAA infractions. On tape, he is a gifted athlete who is light on his feet and displays above-average lateral agility. That's gives him a second-round grade, but some scouts have questioned his toughness and overall strength. Adams' ability to get movement as an inline blocker and anchor in pass pro will be closely watched throughout the week.

Washington DT Alameda Ta'amu (82): He was regarded a first-round prospect entering the season due to his massive frame (6-2, 334) and quickness for his size. However, Ta'amu's stock fell after an inconsistent senior season. This interior run-stopper needs a big week and must show a better motor in order to regain some momentum and hold on to a Day 2 grade.

Furman CB Ryan Steed (75): Steed is one of the top small-school prospects on the board thanks to a combination of toughness, short-area-quickness and instincts in coverage. However, he struggled against Florida in his only appearance against FBS competition in 2011. Steed will have a chance to redeem himself this week, and he must prove he can keep separation to a minimum, as well as locate and play the ball against big-boy competition.

Ohio State WR DeVier Posey (65): Posey served a 10-game suspension for NCAA infractions and appeared in only four games in 2011. Given the limited views scouts got during the season, Posey must show NFL personnel he has the ball skills and suddenness in his routes to make him worthy of Day 2 consideration.

Five under the radar

Kelechi Osemele's power could make him a good fit at guard in the NFL.

Iowa State OT/G Kelechi Osemele (84): Osemele lined up at left tackle in college and should get some reps there this week, but don't be surprised if he struggles to protect the edge. He doesn't show great lateral quickness on film. On the other hand, Osemele has the tenacity, size and power to turn heads when he slides inside to guard, and that's where he might fit best in the NFL.

Vanderbilt CB Casey Hayward (78): Hayward is being overshadowed by the likes of fellow corners Jenkins, Dennard and Brandon Boykin (Georgia). However, Hayward had 15 career interceptions at Vanderbilt, and his instincts are impressive on film. One of the keys for him this week will be showing he has the fluidity and burst to match up in man coverage.

Appalachian State WR Brian Quick (78): Quick is an FCS prospect who flashed his ability to stretch the field against Virginia Tech in the season opener. In addition to his ability to make plays downfield, he is a fluid route-runner with above-average size. It's important that he show scouts he also has the burst to separate against corners with more natural ability than those he faced in college.

Louisiana-Lafayette TE Ladarius Green (68): Playing in the Sun Belt Conference limited Green's chances to make a splash at the national level, but there's a lot to like about his potential. Monday's weigh-in will prove important, as scouts will want to see if Green is as tall as his listed height of 6-6. If he is, and also shows he can make plays against a much higher level of competition, look for his stock to rise.

Utah State LB Bobby Wagner (30): Wagner was one of the most productive inside linebackers in the country in 2011, averaging more than 11 tackles per game while flashing the ability to rush the passer and make plays in coverage. He's quick, tough and instinctive, but scouts will want to see how well he stacks and sheds against bigger blockers in phone-booth situations.

Todd McShay is the director of college scouting for Scouts Inc. He has been evaluating prospects for the NFL draft since 1998.

Follow Todd McShay on Twitter: @McShay13

clyde_carbon · Jan 23, 2012

It's unfathomable to me that people still look at Coples and see top-10 talent. He's probably the most overrated player in this year's draft. You can throw in a few people that are high on McShay's list, as well. Ugh.

Rvnight18 · Jan 23, 2012

So glad this is posted. Thanks again pozz and the rest for the insight. This helps take my mind off of yesterday.

ChrisPozz · Jan 23, 2012

Twitter postings

Shane Hallam:

Kelechi Osmele with the largest wingspan here, 85.5 inches!

#iowa wr marvin mcnutt with the largest hands of the WRs, 10 and 1\8 inches. #seniorbowl

Texasa&m wr Jeff Fuller with monster arm length, 34 1\8 inches.

CB Dwight Bentley has the smallest hands here, under 8 in. Smaller than the kickers and punters

OhioState OT Mike Adams pretty beastly wingspan 82.5 inches.

Intriguing that Osmele has the wingspan and so does #Georgia OL Cordy Glenn. 84 5\8 wingspan. #seniorbowl

Mike Adams and #FloridaState OT Zebrie Sanders with the biggest hands, 11 inches. #seniorbowl

#UAB OT Matt McCants with a nice reach, 35 inch arms. He is a real sleeper. #SeniorBowl

#arizona QB Nick Foles has some big hands too. 10 3\4 inches. compare that to Kellen Moore's 9 3\8 inches

Quinton Coples #unc comes in at almost 6'6 and 281 pounds. looks great #seniorbowl

Oklahoma state safety Markelle Martin is RIPPED. #seniorbowl
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Eric Galko:

Longest wingspans at the #SeniorBowl: Kelechi Osemele: 85.5; Cordy Glenn: 84 5/8;

Biggest hands at the #SeniorBowl: #OhioSt OT Mike Adams with 11 inch hands. Whoa #NFLDraft

Matt McCants just 8 3/4 hands but an 82 5/8 wingspan

Jeff Allen of #Illinios at 6'4, 306, looked sloppy in build. Not a good start for a potential OT prospect #SeniorBowl

Emmanuel Acho of #Texas at 6'1an weighs 235 ...79 7/8 wingspan too...cut #SeniorBowl
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Matt Miller:

Vick Ballard 5'10. All legs. 217 lbs

E. Acho. Just 6'1 but long arms on a short frame
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Michael Schottey

Jeff Allen is a thick kid but small through his shoulders ... Not the most impressive Illinois lineman, but looked better that I assumed

Will Blackwell (lb lsu) looks like a frat brother more than a football player

Nigel Bradham looks like every other FSU prospect ever...like a stud

Zachary Brown is put together pretty nice as well, came in at 236, he's my favorite 4-3 LB

Coples at 6056 and 281 ... Looks like a good athlete, but doesn't Have the crazy ripped physique of most elite pass rushers not named Jared

Juron Criner over 6'2... That's huge for him

Nick Foles looks more like a bad high school golfer than an elite pro athlete ...locker and dalton were way more ripped last year

Cordy Glenn is massive but doesn't look sloppy at all, he can redefine himself this week

Ladarius Green looks awful slight for a TE ... Even a former BBall player

Melvin Ingram 6017, 276... He's a candidate to stand up in the pros, but that's saying DE to me

Ben Jones comes in at 6025 and a soft 304... He looks like he should play at 295

Ryan Lindley looks a lot thicker than I expected, he is fighting for his career this week and made a solid first Impression

Marquis Maze is 5'7... Listed 3 Inches taller. Move him down your boards
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Wes Bunting:

Emmanuel Acho with a strong frame, sold, muscular at 6010 235

#Georgia CB Brandon Boykin is shredded, but shorter at 5092 and only 183 lbs #seniorbowl

#NorthCarolina DE Quinton Coples looks impressive at 6056 281 pounds #seniorbowl

#Arizona QB Nick Foles in at 6-5, 244, leaner, flexible frame #seniorbowl

SouthCarolina standout DL Melvin Ingramin at 6017 276 thick.kid #seniorbowl
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Matt Bitonti:

Florida State lb Nigel Bradham 6'1" 237 and jacked. #seniorbowl
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Shawn Zobel:

Houston WR Patrick Edwards at 5'8, 168...that's not going to help him

ChrisPozz · Jan 23, 2012

More from twitter.........

Michael Schottey:

Marquis Maze is 5'7... Listed 3 Inches taller. Move him down your boards

Chris Rainey 5083, 178... Fringe size, needs to blaze if he wants to get drafted

Zebrie Sanders a very lean 308... He'll be a fine athlete to mold

Brandon Thompson 6020 311... Carries it really well

Brandon Weeden 6034 219... Best looking QB so far

Kirk Cousins at 6022, 209... Takes The nicest QB Physique award from (Foles) ... Just like the starting spot at MSU

Garth Gerhart looks just like a Bigger version of Toby ...kinda creepy

Every prospect is in shorts this year.. A stark contrast from years past ( good for the media though )

Brian Linthicum 6036 looks like a nice athlete as well... He has his QB here which could be a serious plus

Mike Martin only 6012 but he is a huge guy at 307 of all muscle

Who let the little kid up there? Oh wait that's Kellen Moore 5116, 191.

Kelechi Osemele 6053, 333 and pretty solid

Alameda ta'amu 341 and looks more like 320... Classic Islander build that teams love

Russell Wilson 5105 203... That's a 3rd rounder right there
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Wes Bunting:

#Alabama DE Courtney Upshaw powerful looking at 6014 273

#OhioState OT Mike Adams looks the part of an NFL LT 6-7 323, carried weight well #seniorbowl

Nebraska LB Lavonte David makes it at 6004 225 looked solid

#Virginia DE Cam Johnson in at 6036 267... Not a great build, but solid frame #seniorbowl

#NorthCarolina WR Dwight Jones impressive frame, at 6031 226 #Seniorbowl ...looked the part

Nebraska CB Alfonzo Dennard looked strong and compact at 5010 203 #seniorbowl

FSU OT Zebrie Sanders in at 6054, 308, carried weight only "ok" #seniorbowl

#Washington DT Alemada Ta'amu in at 6024 341.... Solid, carries weight well #seniorbowl
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Benjamin Volin:

Alabama by far the worst offender of inflating player heights. Three of five players "shrunk" by more than an inch
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Matt Bowen:

Cal Poly DB Ace Jackson: 5-10, 193. Some buzz about his game tape this morning from NFL scouts.
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Joseph Person:

App State WR Brian Quick measures 6-3.5 (listed at 6-5). At 222 and cut, Quick looks like he could play hybrid TE/WR.
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Matt Bitonti:

Iowa State DB Leonard Johnson 5'10" and 198, and in great shape

clyde_carbon · Jan 23, 2012

Love me some Courtney Upshaw and Levonte David.

BoiseStateFan27 · Jan 23, 2012

clyde_carbon said:
I really like the weigh-in for Doug Martin. 5'9 219. He's one of the few RBs that I'd love to see in a 49ers uniform next year if he's available in the right round.

he's definitely a good un, sir

runs with great strength yet has the speed to break out for big runs as well.

ChrisPozz · Jan 23, 2012

More...

Wes Bunting:

#BoiseState RB Doug Martin was a beast at 5-9 219, compact , thick, broad #seniorbowl

#TexasA&M WR Jeff Fuller looked lean, cut up and with nearly 35 inch arms can really pluck off his frame #SeniorBowl

#IOWASTATE OL Kelechi Osemele was an impressive looking lineman, carried weight well and really long at 35 3/8 arms

#UAB Ot MaTT McCants was also long armed at 35 inches, lil sloppy and not real board, but an move and gain leverage with length

UNC LB Zach Brown was a good looking kid, strong, muscular, solid length, good mass, little body fat #SeniorBowl

Higher on #LSU FS Brandon Taylor than most, looked good at the weight in,thicker kid, strong build, can see a big week from him

#Michigan DT Mike Martin was a monster at the weigh-in...you can tell he's a former wrestler, jacked upper, thick lower half

Bummed no #PennState DT Devon Still here, but DE Jack Crawford with a big set of hands (10 1/8) strong upper body #SeniorBowl

Finally, #BoiseState DL Shea McClellin wasn't the most impressive looking of guys, but he could be a real winner down here

MichiganState QB Kirk Cousins was a solid 6-2, not real imposing, but , reminds me physcially of Andy Dalton #SeniorBowl

Hearing that some NFL teams see #OhioState OT Mike Adams as a potential top 15 talent, could be in for big week #SeniorBowl

Also, some NFL teams r concerned with #Nebraska CB Alfonzo Dennard straightline speed, don't like that Alshon Jeffery ran by him #seniorbowl

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Eric Galko:

Also of Note: Matt McCants of #UAB had just 8 3/4 hands, but he has a pinky deformation on both hands, so that # isn't as big an issue.

Scouts "unsure" about Miami RB Lamar Miller; Apparently getting shoulder surgery AFTER #NFLDraft. "Very surprising" if he goes in 1st round

Also, Scouts are VERY high on Sean Spence, a few said he's the "only guy I'd feel really comfortable drafting" on the Miami team #NFLDraft

Georgia Cordy Glenn at LT in practice

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Shane Hallam:

Cardinals scouts i was behind seemed to be very interested in the CBs at the weigh-in

Most impressive at #SeniorBowl weigh-in physically: Markelle Martin, Brandon Boykin, Kelechi Osemele, Kirk Cousins, Dwight Jones, Coples

Vlachos and Troutman didn't really hold their weight well. But other than that, not many sloppy players! #SeniorBowl

#Georgia OL Cordy Glenn's measureables match up to that of an offensive tackle. Don't be surprised if he gets that shot. #SeniorBowl

MichiganState QB Kirk Cousins was pretty ripped, while #BoiseState QB Kellen Moore had a bit of a gut. #SeniorBowl

Most impressive WR physically was #UNC Dwight Jones. Nice upper body, long arms. Looked very strong. Brian Quick not bad either #SeniorBowl

TE Ladarius Green also impressive. Perfect size for today's NFL, looks the red zone threat

Egnew was okay, not much definition. Fuller looked good. love the arm length.

Out to the North practice. #Jets scouts have camped together in the stands to watch

#SeniorBowl North practice, Asa Jackson and Marvin Jones returning punts

Seeing #Colts, #Bucs, #Jets, #Redskins, #Panthers, #Titans scouts at the #SeniorBowl North practice today.

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Matt Miller:

OT Mike Adams is huge, but carries his weight very well on the field

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Tony Pauline:

Trumaine Johnson/CB/Montana pulled out of the Senior Bowl after telling officials he "was not ready"- that has sent up some red flags..

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Shawn Zobel:

Ohio State OT Mike Adams weighing in at 6'7, 323 is big for him. His stock is on the rise and I think he's in store for a big week

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