Game Thread: San Jose Sharks(2) vs. Los Angeles Kings(3) | WCQF

[Ties5o11]

That was a terrible 5 on 3. They spent most of the time slowly drifting backwards away from the Kings player. That epitomized "playing not to lose". I liked their effort 5v5 much better.

 

[Cobiemonster]

 

[Slimpikins]

Stalock did not say it was a good goal. I watched his post game. He said that the goal should not have counted.

 

[Ho_Brah]

how is it cheated? was never under his control. it was just laying there at the back of his left skate. ref saw it all the way. Williams had every right to go after the puck.

 

[Destroydacre]

how is it cheated? was never under his control. it was just laying there at the back of his left skate. ref saw it all the way. Williams had every right to go after the puck.

It does appear that the puck was lose under Stalock's left pad, which I completely missed live. However Williams never did knock the puck in with his stick, he pushed Stalock backward which pushed the puck into the net. That I believe is not allowed.

Will be curious to see the NHL's statement, if any. The NHL usually does the "lalala our refs our never wrong" song though so I wouldn't expect to hear anything with any substance to it.

 

[BlueWolfZero]

As a fan of neither team, no way that goal should have counted. Still not the reason the Sharks are in a Game 7 now though

 

[Destroydacre]

As a fan of neither team, no way that goal should have counted. Still not the reason the Sharks are in a Game 7 now though

I agree with this. Kudos to the Kings for forcing this to 7 games.

 

[4down20]

Nhl really needs to make all goals reviewable. pretty obvious the refs can't be relied on to make the right decisions

In this day and age it's dumb not to.

 

[SLY]

Holy hell at the backlash for this goal. I'll have to take a look at it later.

Cheers to Richards and Carter for possibly being on two different teams to complete the four game comeback after being down 0-3.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

It does appear that the puck was lose under Stalock's left pad, which I completely missed live. However Williams never did knock the puck in with his stick, he pushed Stalock backward which pushed the puck into the net. That I believe is not allowed.

Will be curious to see the NHL's statement, if any. The NHL usually does the "lalala our refs our never wrong" song though so I wouldn't expect to hear anything with any substance to it.

I'm assuming Kerry Fraser will discuss it on his TSN column too. That's the take I'll probably find more interesting since the NHL will simply insist the right call was made.

Fraser is a bit of a ref apologist in the sense that he always defends how difficult of a job they have (not surprising he would do this), but he will still give an honest evaluation of the play.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

level 5 ref awe shucks ronnie managed to bring up rule 78.5 (Disallowed goals) right before cbc hurried on to the national

Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons

(ix) When a goalkeeper has been pushed into the net together with the puck after making a save.

ole boy ronnie was saying the league can get around it by saying stalock didnt get pushed into the net (only his skate ended up in the net)

 

[dash]

I've actually been surprised how many times Fraser has said "the ref blew that call" (my words, not his) in his articles on TSN though.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I've actually been surprised how many times Fraser has said "the ref blew that call" (my words, not his) in his articles on TSN though.

true but i agree with sabresfan ... its always with the proviso "reffing is tough" and then he buries the ref/the refs call

 

[mattola]

I've actually been surprised how many times Fraser has said "the ref blew that call" (my words, not his) in his articles on TSN though.

true but i agree with sabresfan ... its always with the proviso "reffing is tough" and then he buries the ref/the refs call

gotta get those page hits


better than aww shucks ronnie last night going over the 2-1 goal last night and reading the rule to the letter of the law about pusing the goalie into the net. he stated that the goalie has to physically GO into the net. Im sure Stalocks skates were pushed far enough into the net, but the reason to me on that outrage for that goal is not the forced push, it was for the fact it was covered and the ref couldnt see where that puck was and held his whistle. just garbage. NOT the reason they lost but certainly a good reason for them coming unglued.

 

[Johnnydollaz89]

San Jose, you are really making me look bad for talking you up this whole time. Don't prove me wrong, WIN GAME 7!.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

level 5 ref awe shucks ronnie managed to bring up rule 78.5 (Disallowed goals) right before cbc hurried on to the national

Disallowed Goals – Apparent goals shall be disallowed by the Referee and the appropriate announcement made by the Public Address Announcer for the following reasons

(ix) When a goalkeeper has been pushed into the net together with the puck after making a save.

ole boy ronnie was saying the league can get around it by saying stalock didnt get pushed into the net (only his skate ended up in the net)

gotta get those page hits


better than aww shucks ronnie last night going over the 2-1 goal last night and reading the rule to the letter of the law about pusing the goalie into the net. he stated that the goalie has to physically GO into the net. Im sure Stalocks skates were pushed far enough into the net, but the reason to me on that outrage for that goal is not the forced push, it was for the fact it was covered and the ref couldnt see where that puck was and held his whistle. just garbage. NOT the reason they lost but certainly a good reason for them coming unglued.

i heard about this lol

 

[jstewismybastardson]

gotta get those page hits


better than aww shucks ronnie last night going over the 2-1 goal last night and reading the rule to the letter of the law about pusing the goalie into the net. he stated that the goalie has to physically GO into the net. Im sure Stalocks skates were pushed far enough into the net, but the reason to me on that outrage for that goal is not the forced push, it was for the fact it was covered and the ref couldnt see where that puck was and held his whistle. just garbage. NOT the reason they lost but certainly a good reason for them coming unglued.

dont agree with this ... the only thing Chris lee did right was stare down that puck and see it was loose ... he was right there behind the net ... the problem was he had complete tunnel vision on that puck and didnt look up to see williams pitchfork stalock back towards the net

 

[dash]

So, who do the Sharks go with in game 7 between the pipes? I think you have to go back to Niemi (unless Arturs Irbe is available).

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

I've actually been surprised how many times Fraser has said "the ref blew that call" (my words, not his) in his articles on TSN though.

true but i agree with sabresfan ... its always with the proviso "reffing is tough" and then he buries the ref/the refs call

That's why I appreciate his column. I expect him to stick up for the refs based on the speed of the game, "we all make mistakes", etc., but I appreciate his willingness to say that they blew it.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

So, who do the Sharks go with in game 7 between the pipes? I think you have to go back to Niemi (unless Arturs Irbe is available).

i go Kelly Hrudey


/man was he worked up last night ... if you didnt know it it seemed as if the guy spent his whole career with the sharks and never played for the kings