Robert Quinn

[RobBase]

Who are the Lions 2 best DT's in the past 15 years or so? Suh and...?

 

[LPinSLC]

Who are the Lions 2 best DT's in the past 15 years or so? Suh and...?

Rogers

 

[broncosmitty]

An underperfoming player in a unit with chemistry can be more effective than a unit with a more talented player but lacks chemistry.

I don't disagree there. But does our most talented defensive player screw up team chemistry? (I gotta think its ST too Rob. What say you?)

 

[Microwahevo]

Rogers

Agree. I can't think of another of the top of my head.

 

[LPinSLC]

I don't disagree there. But does our most talented defensive player screw up team chemistry? (I gotta think its ST too Rob. What say you?)

My statement was a generality. Referring to players that have Toxic/poor attitudes being weeded out. Namely Fairley. No reference to Suh what so ever.

 

[RobBase]

Rogers is a good call. Fairley is 3rd by a country mile though. I still say Mayhew knew who he was drafting when he took him, and Fairley is taking the fall for Schwartz who failed to groom him. If Caldwell is this great leader of men, he should have no problem capitalizing on Nick's immense talents and coaching him into a man both on and off the field. When the Lions were looking for a new HC the war cry was "we have the talent to win now, we just need the coach." So wtf.

Sue me if I have zero faith in Mayhew replacing Fairley with even half of what he is worth to this team right now. Andre Fluellen hasn't been hanging around here for 10 years because he's any good, it's because even a street bum can make depth on most of our positions.

Keep Fairley, get rid of Mayhew.

 

[tpaulus_2]

Agree. I can't think of another of the top of my head.

Um- Chuck Fucking Darby. He was a War Daddy! (whatever the fuck that means)

Corey Redding was decent and went on to become better for Seattle and especially Baltimore. He's no stud, but he did turn out to be a quality starting DT and has played a lot of games.

Other than Redding, Rogers, and probably Cory Williams there's um... well... uh...

 

[LPinSLC]

Rogers is a good call. Fairley is 3rd by a country mile though. I still say Mayhew knew who he was drafting when he took him, and Fairley is taking the fall for Schwartz who failed to groom him. If Caldwell is this great leader of men, he should have no problem capitalizing on Nick's immense talents and coaching him into a man both on and off the field. When the Lions were looking for a new HC the war cry was "we have the talent to win now, we just need the coach." So wtf.

Sue me if I have zero faith in Mayhew replacing Fairley with even half of what he is worth to this team right now. Andre Fluellen hasn't been hanging around here for 10 years because he's any good, it's because even a street bum can make depth on most of our positions.

Keep Fairley, get rid of Mayhew.

The risk Vs. reward at that time made sense. A talented(potentially top 5) player drops to 13 even with red flags is worth the gamble.

Maybe you're right about Schwartz being unable to coach him up, I'd tend to agree with that in fact. Regardless of why he hasn't been able to put it all together, he still hasn't. Hopefully Caldwell is someone that can light a fire under his ass and get him to his true potential. I hope he can.

I'm not anti-Fairley, I'm anti-Lazy. I think it sets a bad example to reward a lazy player with a starting position. If you have players bitter about a differential treatment you have resentment. And see you later chemistry. i

 

[broncosmitty]

My statement was a generality. Referring to players that have Toxic/poor attitudes being weeded out. Namely Fairley. No reference to Suh what so ever.

Oh okay, my bad. I have problem at all with a wait and see with Fairley. He cranks it up and goes all out we can see. He doesn't, adios fatboy! Not a foundation piece to me. But I do think he can be an important part of an excellent Line. If he wants to.

 

[jdwills126]

Supplemental picks here we come!!!!!

 

[themuzzer]

Supplemental picks here we come!!!!!

That's what I was thinking.

 

[RestoretheMeow]

Um- Chuck Fucking Darby. He was a War Daddy! (whatever the fuck that means)

Corey Redding was decent and went on to become better for Seattle and especially Baltimore. He's no stud, but he did turn out to be a quality starting DT and has played a lot of games.

Other than Redding, Rogers, and probably Cory Williams there's um... well... uh...

What no Luther Ellis love?

 

[broncosmitty]

What no Luther Ellis love?

Oh yeah, he played in the last 15 years. Made a couple pro bowls even. Had an awesome local radio commercial for " ManGlaze". Sang Happy Birthday to me on my 18th. He was good.

 

[Quackerjacked]

He was around post 99?

 

[LPinSLC]

He was around post 99?

03-04 sounds right. He was a baller for sure

 

[Rollingthndr]

Rogers

BIG BABY!!!!

Dude was a bad ass!