Recruiting Thread:

[poewelch84]

Maybe Sark can get some pointers from his old pal on how to change a players jersey at half time or deflate footballs.

 

[socaljim242]

I have no idea what happened to Tee Shepard. They don't usually give out the details the way they used to. I remember back when Carson Palmer got turned down by ND. It was a huge thing because everyone thought he was going to be a star. I think it was a big embarrassment for Carson, now they don't release any info regarding the reason that a player drops out or transfers. As for Teo, everyone I know said while he wasn't the smartest kid in school, he was a really hard worker, and I guess that what you want in one of your football players.

Teo is a good guy and hard worker but he doesn't seem like the guy (student ) you can take away from his study time ,20 plus hours a week for practice , the time taken away by travel for games and the hours at night on the phone for months and still have no academic issues. You take regular students at ND or Stanford or Northwestern and take away all those hours and all but only the naturally gifted can do ok. I work closely with architects who hire recent grads from USC school of architecture and they stop by there last year to check out how a firm runs and they talk about the hours of studying. I couldn't imagine taking the hours Manti missed and them doing ok. Just my opinion OK. Maybe Manti has special powers .

 

[poewelch84]

I don't think anyone said he passed with flying colors and I doubt Manti studied any thing as difficult as Architecture at Notre Dame. He was a first team Academic All American his senior year but that could have been more about the hype machine and the fact that he went to Notre Dame than anything else. However to suggest the kid has nothing but rocks rolling around in his head like you are is wrong. I'm guess you are more pissed that the ended up at Notre Dame than anything else.

 

[Irish7478]

Manti was a first team academic all American. As was Pat Haden from SC. My guess is that both of them were pretty bright. Pat was there in a different generation, and I'm obviously not in a position to say which one is smarter, but I want to go on record as stating that I would never suggest that Manti is smarter just because he went to ND. At this point I'll just say they both did pretty well in school.

 

[poewelch84]

Manti was a first team academic all American. As was Pat Haden from SC. My guess is that both of them were pretty bright. Pat was there in a different generation, and I'm obviously not in a position to say which one is smarter, but I want to go on record as stating that I would never suggest that Manti is smarter just because he went to ND. At this point I'll just say they both did pretty well in school.

But Haden works for the USC athletic department which can't be a good thing for him right?

 

[Irish7478]

But Haden works for the USC athletic department which can't be a good thing for him right?

Yes. It was made abundantly clear that if you graduate from a school and then go work in their athletic dept, you are a failure on many levels.

 

[purguy12]

Tee had school issues. He didn't leave ND because he wanted to.

 

[poewelch84]

Oh no Purguy any player that leaves Notre Dame is doing it because they can't stand the place and want to play in LA for USC.

 

[socaljim242]

Manti was a first team academic all American. As was Pat Haden from SC. My guess is that both of them were pretty bright. Pat was there in a different generation, and I'm obviously not in a position to say which one is smarter, but I want to go on record as stating that I would never suggest that Manti is smarter just because he went to ND. At this point I'll just say they both did pretty well in school.

LOL. So Manti was academic all American while spending hundreds of hours on the phone at night with ..... well you know who. And this is supposed to make me think he's a smart cookie and think those were some challenging courses he was taking to get that GPA? Yeah, not really impressed considering Manti wouldn't have qualified to go to ND with his SAT scores. What I mean by that is his score was High enough to get a football player in to Notre dame but no way if he was just you're regular student trying to get in. . Both of them "are pretty bright" but you're "not in a position to say which one is smarter'? LOL. Look up Magna Cum Laude or Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford , degrees in Philosophy, economics,politics and Law and smart enough to be partner and be managing director of a law firm with a former Mayor of Los Angeles. Yeah tough one to call.

 

[socaljim242]

I don't think anyone said he passed with flying colors and I doubt Manti studied any thing as difficult as Architecture at Notre Dame. He was a first team Academic All American his senior year but that could have been more about the hype machine and the fact that he went to Notre Dame than anything else. However to suggest the kid has nothing but rocks rolling around in his head like you are is wrong. I'm guess you are more pissed that the ended up at Notre Dame than anything else.

1. I was disappointed he chose ND instead of USC just like you were probably disappointed Juju picked USC but
that was five years ago. Five years later I can't imagine him playing anywhere else than ND and I think he picked the right school for him. He told Pete the night before he was going to sign with SC so it was a close one. I never bashed him for going to ND and I certainly am not "still pissed he ended up there"
2. I never said he :"had rocks in his head" . He was a good kid with a GPA and SAT that wouldn't have gotten him into ND or USC unless he was a getting in as a football player. That's just a fact with most players not just him.
3. the fact that he got a high GPA his senior year given he had all that comes along with football. Plus he was a middle linebacker so I assume he had to look at film on his own because he was the QB of the defense . Now add all those hours every night he spent on the phone with that person and and you have a lot of hours he couldnt study that a normal student at ND would normally have. And this guy got a high GPA? Sorry but that adds up to courses that wern't very difficult. You can disagree but that's why we have message boards.

 

[socaljim242]

Maybe Sark can get some pointers from his old pal on how to change a players jersey at half time or deflate footballs.

Didn't Brian Kelly go see Belichick a few years back to get pointers on? Illegally filming the other teams signals?

 

[Irish7478]

LOL. So Manti was academic all American while spending hundreds of hours on the phone at night with ..... well you know who. And this is supposed to make me think he's a smart cookie and think those were some challenging courses he was taking to get that GPA? Yeah, not really impressed considering Manti wouldn't have qualified to go to ND with his SAT scores. What I mean by that is his score was High enough to get a football player in to Notre dame but no way if he was just you're regular student trying to get in. . Both of them "are pretty bright" but you're "not in a position to say which one is smarter'? LOL. Look up Magna Cum Laude or Rhodes Scholarship to Oxford , degrees in Philosophy, economics,politics and Law and smart enough to be partner and be managing director of a law firm with a former Mayor of Los Angeles. Yeah tough one to call.

Yet after all that, he can't get a job and ends up working in the athletic department of the school he played football at. I believe you were the one who stated that that path was proof of failure. Have you changed your mind on that? I guess if an SC football player does it, it's a good thing. If an ND player does it it's a bad thing.

 

[Irish7478]

Didn't Brian Kelly go see Belichick a few years back to get pointers on? Illegally filming the other teams signals?

One word: Kiffin

 

[Irish7478]

1. I was disappointed he chose ND instead of USC just like you were probably disappointed Juju picked USC but
that was five years ago. Five years later I can't imagine him playing anywhere else than ND and I think he picked the right school for him. He told Pete the night before he was going to sign with SC so it was a close one. I never bashed him for going to ND and I certainly am not "still pissed he ended up there"
2. I never said he :"had rocks in his head" . He was a good kid with a GPA and SAT that wouldn't have gotten him into ND or USC unless he was a getting in as a football player. That's just a fact with most players not just him.
3. the fact that he got a high GPA his senior year given he had all that comes along with football. Plus he was a middle linebacker so I assume he had to look at film on his own because he was the QB of the defense . Now add all those hours every night he spent on the phone with that person and and you have a lot of hours he couldnt study that a normal student at ND would normally have. And this guy got a high GPA? Sorry but that adds up to courses that wern't very difficult. You can disagree but that's why we have message boards.

I guess one other possibility is that he was extremely smart. I realize that you find it hard to believe that someone could get good grades while playing football and spending a lot of time on the phone, but that probably says more about you than it does about him.

 

[poewelch84]

Didn't Brian Kelly go see Belichick a few years back to get pointers on? Illegally filming the other teams signals?

Look you can't knock Kelly on anything when it comes to how his teams play the game and how he coaches, I have yet to hear of them ever doing anything that would bring his morals into question. You can't say the same with Kiffin or Carroll, so keep on rooting for old U$C.

 

[socaljim242]

Yet after all that, he can't get a job and ends up working in the athletic department of the school he played football at. I believe you were the one who stated that that path was proof of failure. Have you changed your mind on that? I guess if an SC football player does it, it's a good thing. If an ND player does it it's a bad thing.

LOL. That's too funny. Pat Came to RUN the USC athletic department because he loves his school and left the LAW FIRM he was running . Chris Zorich couldn;t pass the bar and was given a desk and a chair some where in the ND athletic dept and he couldn;t even hang on to that. But hey, thanks for the laugh. lol

 

[socaljim242]

I guess one other possibility is that he was extremely smart. I realize that you find it hard to believe that someone could get good grades while playing football and spending a lot of time on the phone, but that probably says more about you than it does about him.

Yeah, Manti who got into ND with the average SAT score for a college student ( not even high enough to get into ND if he wasn't a football player) and winner or the catfish of the year award is "extremely smart".lol. Might wanna consider the obvious possibilities . A- courses are not very hard. B- would look really good if our Heisman candidate had really good grades.

 

[poewelch84]

Your athletic director was the former color commentator for Notre Dame football games, just saying.

 

[socaljim242]

Your athletic director was the former color commentator for Notre Dame football games, just saying.

Yeah I know. Most people didn't know he was a partner at a law firm at the same time. He loves football and he had a great seat to watch some great games in the most storied stadium . Nothing wrong with that.

 

[poewelch84]

So Notre Dame are now at 85 scholarship athletes with the addition of Riggs, who has starting experience on an SEC defense that has been one of the best in the conference while he was there. This is a huge pick up for Notre Dame, the experience he'll bring should only help the young DB's Notre Dame have. SoCal one day in the next 3 to 4 years U$C will have 85 scholarship athletes too.