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Raiders Sign Taylor Mays

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LOL, a relic from the Singletary era. I didn't realize he was still around. I thought he was long gone from the NFL
 

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He's pretty much a special teams player and 3rd string safety.
 

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He's pretty much a special teams player and 3rd string safety.

I am not knocking the Raiders for signing him, I was just surprised he was still around. The 49ers drafting Taylor Mays will always be a reminder of the failure of Mike Singletary
 

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No worries. Think he was just a depth signing for us and to play a little special teams.

Maybe playing for Norton can revive his career.....who knows? I think it was a low risk move, doubt he's getting much in the way of $.
 

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LOL, a relic from the Singletary era. I didn't realize he was still around. I thought he was long gone from the NFL


I was just about to say the same thing. I remember when I thought he was gonna be a great player. I was calling him the next Roy Williams cuz he was such a big hitter.
 

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He was signed by the Lions but didn't get playing time right away so he asked for his release.
 

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Yep, too many misses like Mays (2nd rounder), and your team starts to go downward. Then you have to rely on free agency a little more, and your cap gets pushed up.

Drafting can't be perfect and every team misses, so its the frequency of misses. A team can even "survive" an entire bad class (our 2012), if there was enough talent to begin with. But back to back poor classes is a HUGE problem.

So far Baalke had only one bad year, granted it was REALLY bad.
 

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Yep, too many misses like Mays (2nd rounder), and your team starts to go downward. Then you have to rely on free agency a little more, and your cap gets pushed up.

Drafting can't be perfect and every team misses, so its the frequency of misses. A team can even "survive" an entire bad class (our 2012), if there was enough talent to begin with. But back to back poor classes is a HUGE problem.

So far Baalke had only one bad year, granted it was REALLY bad.

Epically. Though I don't think players like Jenkins or James could ever have flourished under Greg Roman. I'm curious to see if Jenkins makes the Cowboys. It's the first situation he's been in where he really has a chance to succeed (undersized speed WR under Roman, then a WR on KC). I feel confident in saying James definitely could have contributed more than he did - Roman hates the type of game LMJ excels at - though it's pretty clear neither guy was worth the pick.
 

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I am not knocking the Raiders for signing him, I was just surprised he was still around. The 49ers drafting Taylor Mays will always be a reminder of the failure of Mike Singletary
When did Baalke take over as GM for you guys?
 

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believe it was just before the 2010 draft? So if the reason for this question pertains to his drafting, hard to say just how much decision making he REALLY had? Just this 2010 draft of course, not referring to the drafts following it.
 

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believe it was just before the 2010 draft? So if the reason for this question pertains to his drafting, hard to say just how much decision making he REALLY had? Just this 2010 draft of course, not referring to the drafts following it.

Yea, but isn't like Baalke just walked through the team doors in 2010. He was with the team before 2010 as a scout and then Director of Player Personnel. I am sure he was involved in the 2010 draft
 

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Yea, but isn't like Baalke just walked through the team doors in 2010. He was with the team before 2010 as a scout and then Director of Player Personnel. I am sure he was involved in the 2010 draft

involved yes, but 'final decision'?

guess i'm referring to Singletary's influence on Davis, Iupati, and Mays.
 

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involved yes, but 'final decision'?

guess i'm referring to Singletary's influence on Davis, Iupati, and Mays.


I can't remember exactly but it was reported Singletary really wanted Mays and pushed to get him. The others I don't know. I think Singletary was also a big supporter of Chilo Rachel
 

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With Aldon Smith gone, Baalke's greatest pick is gone. Will Baalke be the next to go if things don't start getting better?
 

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With Aldon Smith gone, Baalke's greatest pick is gone. Will Baalke be the next to go if things don't start getting better?

eventually, everyone goes. so the question is.........what time frame is "don't start getting better?"

don't see Baalke going anywhere for at least two more seasons. The team would need to have back to back BAD seasons, before we make the change.

But Baalke faces tough tasks in the next few off seasons, looking for the next QB and LT. This isn't saying replace Kaep and Staley immediately, but you should look ahead, especially at QB.
 

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With Aldon Smith gone, Baalke's greatest pick is gone. Will Baalke be the next to go if things don't start getting better?

Navorro Bowman is Baalke's greatest pick. By far when you take into account draft position.
 

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I can't see Baalke going anywhere in the immediate future. Jed basically picked him over Harbaugh. That said, if the season tanks, Jed will be looking for a fall guy, and Baalke is by far the most obvious one. There was a clear trend of talent-over-coaching this offseason. If that falls apart, you have to point the finger at the talent. Or the decision to favor talent over coaching. Either way, it puts Baalke in an uncomfortable position.
 

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I can't see Baalke going anywhere in the immediate future. Jed basically picked him over Harbaugh. That said, if the season tanks, Jed will be looking for a fall guy, and Baalke is by far the most obvious one. There was a clear trend of talent-over-coaching this offseason. If that falls apart, you have to point the finger at the talent. Or the decision to favor talent over coaching. Either way, it puts Baalke in an uncomfortable position.

I can see what you're saying. On the other hand, if Jed keeps in mind all of the departures thru retirement and other means, I would think he'd not go head hunting and would give Baalke at least another year to try to rebuild the team. And if significant progress doesn't take place, THEN he throws Baalke over board. And Tomsula as well.
 

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Oh, I think Baalke is safe. Just saying that he may not be as safe as he thinks he is.
 
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