Raiders - Chargers

[Mingo]

This may be the last year with the division in this configuration if one or both of these teams move to LA.

That's what I call a shame.

 

[cdumler7]

It is so weird to think this could be the last time the AFC West is truly the AFC West we have today. I really hope they can get some things figured out to keep the division together. I would much rather Oakland move to LA than San Diego but I think it looks like San Diego could be first to commit to LA.

 

[randymon]

My thinking is Oakland stays ( for next few yrs at least). Raiders belong in Oakland and I think they`ll get their act together and make that happen. If it was me, I would bring Rams back to LA and keep Raiders in Oakland and divey all the SD players around the league in a sort of draft style format and kiss SD and the Chargers name good bye. There isn`t many Charger players that stand out besides a couple wrs, a lineman or two and their punter that could make a starting lineup in Denver or most any other decent team in nfl anyway.

 

[CEH]

Merry Christmas all
After watching that game last night
How did Denver lose to oak at home
This year , the nfl has put a terrible product on the field in most games
Derek Carr and Aaron Rodgers basically have the same stats this year

 

[iknowftbll]

^ Oakland just found a way to matchup in the second half. Plus they found a weakness and repeatedly exploited it and our coaches refused to address it. I am always careful about saying any team "should have" won a game. In the last two weeks the Broncos had both their opponents on the ropes at halftime though and both opponents found ways to get back in the game. What adjustments need to made, I don't know. I consider it a problem on offense, even though in the Steelers case they put up 34 points. I'm sure some of those would have come off the board had the offense and ST not have repeatedly put the defense in an impossible to defend situation.

As for the AFC West alignment, I hope if anything the Chargers leave and the Cardinals come over. Don't see me getting my way on that but it seems logical to me that teams that have won SBs should be able to remain in the conference in which they won a SB. Otherwise I'd gladly trade the Chargers out and bring the Seahawks into the AFC West again.

 

[Mingo]

The good thing to say about the last two weeks - is that the Broncos can still recover and profit from the experience - champions overcome adversity and losers succumb to it.

 

[GeekSportsFan]

This may be the last year with the division in this configuration if one or both of these teams move to LA.

That's what I call a shame.

That is a shame. There are rivalries within that division that made Thursday night's game a great one even though both teams were out of the playoff picture. I hate L.A. and everything associated with that city and if the Chargers go up to that pit, I don't know who I'll start pulling for. The Spanos family is an evil entity that must face the wrath of God and his warrior angels when they make it to the Pearly Gates.

 

[Mingo]

That is a shame. There are rivalries within that division that made Thursday night's game a great one even though both teams were out of the playoff picture. I hate L.A. and everything associated with that city and if the Chargers go up to that pit, I don't know who I'll start pulling for. The Spanos family is an evil entity that must face the wrath of God and his warrior angels when they make it to the Pearly Gates.

Reminds me of John Milton -

"Him the Almighty Power
Hurled headlong flaming from th' Ethereal Sky
With hideous ruin and combustion, down
To bottomless perdition, there to dwell
In Adamantine Chains and penal Fire,
Who durst defy th' Omnipotent to Arms."

 

[cdumler7]

That is a shame. There are rivalries within that division that made Thursday night's game a great one even though both teams were out of the playoff picture. I hate L.A. and everything associated with that city and if the Chargers go up to that pit, I don't know who I'll start pulling for. The Spanos family is an evil entity that must face the wrath of God and his warrior angels when they make it to the Pearly Gates.

It is truly incredible just how much an owner makes a difference. Thankfully for us Bronco fans we have had one of the best. The Broncos have been to more Super Bowls than losing seasons since Bowlen took over this team. I think we are top-3 in wins among all NFL teams in that same span. I do feel for those teams that have such bad ownership. Probably none worse than that of the Browns. AT least you can say that in your team is not the Browns.

 

[Mingo]

I feel for the fans in St. Louis, but the Rams back to LA makes the most sense to me.

- I also want to second - CD's thought - about the ownership situation.

The Broncos were awful the first few years of the franchise (but quirky - like the Brooklyn Dodgers) - the ownership was threadbare. In a plan to save the Broncos and keep them in Denver - they actually went and sold shares door to door. I bought 20 shares at $5 each in 1962. I sold them at $50 dollars a share after the merger with the NFL got into place = like 1969. I'd sure like to know what my investment in the Broncos would come to today if I still owned the shares.

 

[randymon]

I feel for the fans in St. Louis, but the Rams back to LA makes the most sense to me.

- I also want to second - CD's thought - about the ownership situation.

The Broncos were awful the first few years of the franchise (but quirky - like the Brooklyn Dodgers) - the ownership was threadbare. In a plan to save the Broncos and keep them in Denver - they actually went and sold shares door to door. I bought 20 shares at $5 each in 1962. I sold them at $50 dollars a share after the merger with the NFL got into place = like 1969. I'd sure like to know what my investment in the Broncos would come to today if I still owned the shares.

That's a great story. I would imagine your share nowadays would be quite nice.Ps. and I thought I was old Mingo

 

[Mingo]

That's a great story. I would imagine your share nowadays would be quite nice.Ps. and I thought I was old Mingo

I found out this year that the Beatles wrote a song for me:

"When I'm Sixty Four"

When I get older losing my hair
Many years from now
Will you still be sending me a valentine
Birthday greetings, bottle of wine?
If I'd been out till quarter to three
Would you lock the door?
Will you still need me, will you still feed me
When I'm sixty-four?

 

[SpringStein]

It is truly incredible just how much an owner makes a difference. Thankfully for us Bronco fans we have had one of the best. The Broncos have been to more Super Bowls than losing seasons since Bowlen took over this team. I think we are top-3 in wins among all NFL teams in that same span. I do feel for those teams that have such bad ownership. Probably none worse than that of the Browns. AT least you can say that in your team is not the Browns.

Actually the Broncos have the most wins in the NFL of any franchise since Bowlen became owner. We passed the 9ers this year.