QB King of the AFC North

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Interesting to see a Steeler fans say that still. In 2018 Ben supposedly had the quickest release of any QB in football as he made an effort to change his ball-patting habits.

But that was certainly an anomaly. His entire career he held the ball WAY too long.

I'm genuinely curious to see what his QB Hits stats say in comparison to the rest of the league. I know his sacks & pressure numbers went way down around 2016-2018. But that doesn't tell the entire story.

 

[Clayton]

Right because Big Ben is known for not taking hits and being more elusive than Lamar

While I do think Lamar has an increased injury risk because of his number of touches, I do think Big Ben is the most vulnerable to injury because of his age, style, and history.

Anyways, Lamar was so far ahead of the other three last season that even with some basic regression he should still be the QB king of the AFC North. The question really only becomes whether or not he gets more pass attempts and fewer rush attempts as he matures into the role.

I think with Big Ben there is also a bit of a wonder as if he'll be a game manager or a guy who will try to lead the league in pass attempts. One would think it would be the former.

Burrow should be the worst of the 4. Bengals oline was the worst in the NFL last year. A couple of their pieces on offense have been banged up and not sure how much they get out of them. Burrow comes in as a fairly pro ready QB and I think he is slightly better as a QB prospect coming out than Mayfield but I wouldn't bet on it showing up in year 1.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

While I do think Lamar has an increased injury risk because of his number of touches, I do think Big Ben is the most vulnerable to injury because of his age, style, and history.

Anyways, Lamar was so far ahead of the other three last season that even with some basic regression he should still be the QB king of the AFC North. The question really only becomes whether or not he gets more pass attempts and fewer rush attempts as he matures into the role.

I think with Big Ben there is also a bit of a wonder as if he'll be a game manager or a guy who will try to lead the league in pass attempts. One would think it would be the former.

Burrow should be the worst of the 4. Bengals oline was the worst in the NFL last year. A couple of their pieces on offense have been banged up and not sure how much they get out of them. Burrow comes in as a fairly pro ready QB and I think he is slightly better as a QB prospect coming out than Mayfield but I wouldn't bet on it showing up in year 1.

I'm hoping the Steelers play it smart with Ben and dial back his pass attempts. Get him back to around 30 attempts or fewer. The 40-50 attempts per game was just ridiculous, and no chance his 3 repaired flexor tendons would hold up for 16 games if they continue that trend. Unless they go dink & dunk style where the bulk of his throws are short to intermediate.

I was all aboard the "revamp the O-line" train this past offseason in hopes they would fix the run game, but they really didn't do much there apart from reshuffling which is truly frightening. Maybe it works, maybe it doesn't. DeCastro is about the only O-line piece that I feel confident in. The rest can be average to above-average, but there was clear regression in the trenches last year. I struggle to have a lot of faith in this offense based on that.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Stat Check-In

Ben Roethlisberger (3 games) :
109 Att, 67% comp, 777yd (259 Y/G), 7 TDS 1 INT
4yds rushing, 0TD, 0.36 Y/A

Lamar Jackson (4 games) :
98 Att, 68% comp, 769yds (192.3 Y/G), 7TDS 1 INT
235yds rushing, 1TD, 6 Y/A

Baker Mayfield (4 games) :
115 Att, 63% comp, 729 yds (182.3 Y/G), 7TDS 2 INT
15yds rushing, 0TD, 1.7 Y/A

Joe Burrow (4 games) :
177 Att, 65% comp, 1121 yds (280.3 Y/G), 6TDS 2 INT
20yds rushing, 1TD, 3.8 Y/A

 

[Caliskinsfan]

While I do think Lamar has an increased injury risk because of his number of touches, I do think Big Ben is the most vulnerable to injury because of his age, style, and history.

Anyways, Lamar was so far ahead of the other three last season that even with some basic regression he should still be the QB king of the AFC North. The question really only becomes whether or not he gets more pass attempts and fewer rush attempts as he matures into the role.

I think with Big Ben there is also a bit of a wonder as if he'll be a game manager or a guy who will try to lead the league in pass attempts. One would think it would be the former.

Burrow should be the worst of the 4. Bengals oline was the worst in the NFL last year. A couple of their pieces on offense have been banged up and not sure how much they get out of them. Burrow comes in as a fairly pro ready QB and I think he is slightly better as a QB prospect coming out than Mayfield but I wouldn't bet on it showing up in year 1.

This. Follows my thoughts almost exactly. Tape is out on Lamar and Ds will adjust and catch up. My rebuild no names, outside of about 4 extreme mental lapses on D and special teams contained LJ for the most part and that offense surprisingly well. Screens and short crosses were pretty effective on the Ravens D too. Course our DLine is pretty good but much better with Chase in, which we were missing last week. Still Lamar did Lamar things. Mobile QBs strain a D no matter how good. Have to pressure them.

On Ben, I’m not convinced he can stay healthy. But if he does, I could see the argument for sure. He’s lost some but still a very dangerous QB when healthy.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

This. Follows my thoughts almost exactly. Tape is out on Lamar and Ds will adjust and catch up. My rebuild no names, outside of about 4 extreme mental lapses on D and special teams contained LJ and that offense Sur Pringle well. Course our DLine is pretty good but much better with Chase in, which we were missing last week. Still Lamar did Lamar things. Mobile QBs strain a D no matter how good. Have to pressure them.

On Ben, I’m not convinced he can stay healthy. But if he does, I could see the argument for sure. He’s lost some but still a very dangerous QB when healthy.

Sur Pringle?

What in the 16th century?

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Sur Pringle?

What in the 16th century?

Lmao! Saw that in my re read but ya caught me before I edited it. Hilarious auto correct by my iPad tho!

 

[Shanemansj13]

Stat Check-In

Ben Roethlisberger (3 games) :
109 Att, 67% comp, 777yd (259 Y/G), 7 TDS 1 INT
4yds rushing, 0TD, 0.36 Y/A

Lamar Jackson (4 games) :
98 Att, 68% comp, 769yds (192.3 Y/G), 7TDS 1 INT
235yds rushing, 1TD, 6 Y/A

Baker Mayfield (4 games) :
115 Att, 63% comp, 729 yds (182.3 Y/G), 7TDS 2 INT
15yds rushing, 0TD, 1.7 Y/A

Joe Burrow (4 games) :
177 Att, 65% comp, 1121 yds (280.3 Y/G), 6TDS 2 INT
20yds rushing, 1TD, 3.8 Y/A

Pretty much what I expected. Big Ben the best of the group...throwing wise. Baker needed to improve and he has...would like to get that comp % up a little more though but I can't complain bc he is limited turnovers. Lamar is hit or miss throwing the ball for yards but still has a very nice comp %. Burrow like I said, he could up ending having a better season than Kyler or Baker rookie wise. He has weapons and if Mixon heats up that is only helping him.

 

[Tomhusker]

I'd pick Jackson to back up Patrick Mahomes.

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Pretty much what I expected. Big Ben the best of the group...throwing wise. Baker needed to improve and he has...would like to get that comp % up a little more though but I can't complain bc he is limited turnovers. Lamar is hit or miss throwing the ball for yards but still has a very nice comp %. Burrow like I said, he could up ending having a better season than Kyler or Baker rookie wise. He has weapons and if Mixon heats up that is only helping him.

Agreed. For me its Ben & Burrow as the best in the division throwing wise right now. But I have no doubt that its going to be harder to tell by midseason. Everyone has a lot of positives going for them so the stats should start showing up.

Ben... Showing flashes of his former self. Still a touch errant on his deep throws, as evidence in the HOU game. Probably has more to do with getting in sync with everyone after a year off. Play-calling is still suspect, mainly a symptom of an underqualified OC. O-line is getting better but there are still some inconsistencies that worry me there. Offense hasn't quite found its identity even though its churning out 100yd rushers weekly. It's been a balanced approach so far, which is good because it keeps me from losing sleep over Ben's elbow.

Burrow... I'm honestly very surprised at how well he's been performing. I knew he was talented, just didn't think he'd have the toughness to stand behind that garbage heap O-line. If their O-line improves, or if they can build one for years to come then the Bengals are going to be a tough team. Especially if they quit messin around with Mixon and just feed the guy. Shocked that AJ Green has looked like a complete shell of his former self. But Tee Higgins has stepped right up to the plate. That draft pick doesn't seem as odd anymore.

Baker... The run game is doing wonders for him. And that O-line is the best in the division right now without question. He's getting in rhythm and it shows. Arrow is pointed way up if they can continue to have the same level of offensive success against Indy & Pitt in the coming weeks. Gut-check time for Cleveland!

Jackson... I still have a hard time believing he can sustain his level of play. But here we are a quarter of the way through the season and he keeps proving us wrong. It's shaky ground with how they are winning but they are getting it done. If they can solidify their passing attack then they'll be back on top as the powerhouse of the division. Seems like they rely heavily on the big play, but the completion percentage says otherwise.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Jackson has been fortunate so far. Even with a guy the size of Newton he's been injured a lot with his style. I don't see Jackson being as lucky as he has been for long.

 

[redseat]

Too easy...

 

[FaCe-LeE-uS]

Well at least if Baker flops his career he'll still be known as the king of QB commercials lol. He's certainly giving a Peyton Manning a run for his money in that category.

 

[redseat]

Well at least if Baker flops his career he'll still be known as the king of QB commercials lol. He's certainly giving a Peyton Manning a run for his money in that category.

Has to be much quicker covering up the seats though! So slow!

 

[Stakesarehigh]

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I tried getting the jif/gif but to no avail

 

[Shanemansj13]

Agreed. For me its Ben & Burrow as the best in the division throwing wise right now. But I have no doubt that its going to be harder to tell by midseason. Everyone has a lot of positives going for them so the stats should start showing up.

Ben... Showing flashes of his former self. Still a touch errant on his deep throws, as evidence in the HOU game. Probably has more to do with getting in sync with everyone after a year off. Play-calling is still suspect, mainly a symptom of an underqualified OC. O-line is getting better but there are still some inconsistencies that worry me there. Offense hasn't quite found its identity even though its churning out 100yd rushers weekly. It's been a balanced approach so far, which is good because it keeps me from losing sleep over Ben's elbow.

Burrow... I'm honestly very surprised at how well he's been performing. I knew he was talented, just didn't think he'd have the toughness to stand behind that garbage heap O-line. If their O-line improves, or if they can build one for years to come then the Bengals are going to be a tough team. Especially if they quit messin around with Mixon and just feed the guy. Shocked that AJ Green has looked like a complete shell of his former self. But Tee Higgins has stepped right up to the plate. That draft pick doesn't seem as odd anymore.

Baker... The run game is doing wonders for him. And that O-line is the best in the division right now without question. He's getting in rhythm and it shows. Arrow is pointed way up if they can continue to have the same level of offensive success against Indy & Pitt in the coming weeks. Gut-check time for Cleveland!

Jackson... I still have a hard time believing he can sustain his level of play. But here we are a quarter of the way through the season and he keeps proving us wrong. It's shaky ground with how they are winning but they are getting it done. If they can solidify their passing attack then they'll be back on top as the powerhouse of the division. Seems like they rely heavily on the big play, but the completion percentage says otherwise.

Yeah I agree with all that and especially Jackson. If he has a great, long career good for him but still weary. Will probably feel about that with every running QB like himself though. Crazy he is still healthy with all the injuries this year. They rely on the big play and that has to do with his running ability but also bc of that run game and OL play. Makes you wonder how he would do on a team with a different scheme where is maybe forced to run more...could have been devastated with injuries. He found the perfect scheme and system.

 

[sonnyblack65]

Sur Pringle?

What in the 16th century?

Reg potato chips came out in early 1800's, so Pringles no sooner than 19th century. Thanks Sur for your contribution to snacks, or did the King knight him a Sir?

 

[sonnyblack65]

I'm genuinely curious to see what his QB Hits stats say in comparison to the rest of the league. I know his sacks & pressure numbers went way down around 2016-2018. But that doesn't tell the entire story.

No matter who ends up being the King of the AFCN , which Ben ran for many years, division is really stacked. All liekable guys except for Baker, hopefully he matures and limits Hollywood during NFL

 

[sonnyblack65]

Who you got this season? As in, who will finish with the better season?

We've got 3 Heisman winners & some fat bearded dude...

Bearded guy isn't fat any more and I believe makes duck calls in La