Possible SM late round pick

[ehb5]

Vernon Adams the QB from Oregon. 5'11" 200 so a bit undersized. Listed as project 6th round to UDFA on walter. The reason I mention him as a possible SM pick is that he obviously reminds me a little of russell Wilson - an SM pick (or at least an SM influenced pick). Recently several people on twitter have been really praising him and think he's very underrated. Like Wilson he seems to be getting cast aside by teams for his small size. Maybe scott takes another shot on a smaller QB in the late rounds with one of our 12 (maybe) picks.

 

[Breed]

A player in the mold of Russell Wilson is certainly worth a 6th rd to UDFA flyer. I wouldn't say Wilson was tossed aside though. More than a few media sites and individual talking heads were impressed with his moxie, arm strength, accuracy, and football intelligence. I recall one site or dude saying if he were 3 inches taller. People would be debating who should be drafted with the 1st pick, him, Griffin or Luck.

These are more than decent write ups on Wilson's attributes. With his lack of height and whether he can throw from the pocket because of it listed as his only weaknesses.

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Russell Wilson

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Wilson is an accurate passer. He is a very mechanical quarterback who is consistent in his drop step and thoroughly understands how to move within the pocket and evade when the pocket collapses. He is an athlete and can torque his body to make any sort of throw on the run, and is accurate in this setting. He is a born signal caller who shows command of the offense. He has the arm strength to make the deep throws and the touch to put it on a receiver in stride. He is effective when scrambling and is a classic play extender.

WEAKNESSES
Wilson's height will be his biggest inhibitor at the next level and the largest reason for his late-round value. It remains to be seen if he can throw effectively from the pocket at the next level.

Broncos Draft Prospects - QB Russell Wilson

PROS: Arm strength, accuracy, decision making, athletic ability, clutch factor, vision, escape ability, coachability, teammates love him, great leader, doesn’t make a lot of mistakes

CONS: Height

Now that RW has shown his height has had no ill effect on his play in the NFL. If Adams receives similar write ups as the ones above. He could be long gone well before the 6th rd comes up in the draft.

 

[skinsdad62]

in every mock i have put up adams was my qb

 

[ehb5]

A player in the mold of Russell Wilson is certainly worth a 6th rd to UDFA flyer. I wouldn't say Wilson was tossed aside though. More than a few media sites and individual talking heads were impressed with his moxie, arm strength, accuracy, and football intelligence. I recall one site or dude saying if he were 3 inches taller. People would be debating who should be drafted with the 1st pick, him, Griffin or Luck.

These are more than decent write ups on Wilson's attributes. With his lack of height and whether he can throw from the pocket because of it listed as his only weaknesses.

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Russell Wilson

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Wilson is an accurate passer. He is a very mechanical quarterback who is consistent in his drop step and thoroughly understands how to move within the pocket and evade when the pocket collapses. He is an athlete and can torque his body to make any sort of throw on the run, and is accurate in this setting. He is a born signal caller who shows command of the offense. He has the arm strength to make the deep throws and the touch to put it on a receiver in stride. He is effective when scrambling and is a classic play extender.

WEAKNESSES
Wilson's height will be his biggest inhibitor at the next level and the largest reason for his late-round value. It remains to be seen if he can throw effectively from the pocket at the next level.

Broncos Draft Prospects - QB Russell Wilson

PROS: Arm strength, accuracy, decision making, athletic ability, clutch factor, vision, escape ability, coachability, teammates love him, great leader, doesn’t make a lot of mistakes

CONS: Height

Now that RW has shown his height has had no ill effect on his play in the NFL. If Adams receives similar write ups as the ones above. He could be long gone well before the 6th rd comes up in the draft.

You're right he was not, and I was actually a big Wilson fan before the draft as well as many other people as you say. But he certainly fell due to his size. And you're right that adams might not make it to the 6th too. Honestly I think he'll go 3rd or 4th but if he is there it makes sense.

 

[ehb5]

A player in the mold of Russell Wilson is certainly worth a 6th rd to UDFA flyer. I wouldn't say Wilson was tossed aside though. More than a few media sites and individual talking heads were impressed with his moxie, arm strength, accuracy, and football intelligence. I recall one site or dude saying if he were 3 inches taller. People would be debating who should be drafted with the 1st pick, him, Griffin or Luck.

These are more than decent write ups on Wilson's attributes. With his lack of height and whether he can throw from the pocket because of it listed as his only weaknesses.

NFL Events: Combine Player Profiles - Russell Wilson

ANALYSIS
STRENGTHS
Wilson is an accurate passer. He is a very mechanical quarterback who is consistent in his drop step and thoroughly understands how to move within the pocket and evade when the pocket collapses. He is an athlete and can torque his body to make any sort of throw on the run, and is accurate in this setting. He is a born signal caller who shows command of the offense. He has the arm strength to make the deep throws and the touch to put it on a receiver in stride. He is effective when scrambling and is a classic play extender.

WEAKNESSES
Wilson's height will be his biggest inhibitor at the next level and the largest reason for his late-round value. It remains to be seen if he can throw effectively from the pocket at the next level.

Broncos Draft Prospects - QB Russell Wilson

PROS: Arm strength, accuracy, decision making, athletic ability, clutch factor, vision, escape ability, coachability, teammates love him, great leader, doesn’t make a lot of mistakes

CONS: Height

Now that RW has shown his height has had no ill effect on his play in the NFL. If Adams receives similar write ups as the ones above. He could be long gone well before the 6th rd comes up in the draft.

You're right he was not, and I was actually a big Wilson fan before the draft as well as many other people as you say. But he certainly fell due to his size. And you're right that adams might not make it to the 6th too. Honestly I think he'll go 3rd or 4th but if he is there it makes sense.

 

[deanpet21]

Not if Kevin Hogan is on the board.

 

[ehb5]

Not if Kevin Hogan is on the board.

I think Adams is better and reminds me of a prior SM pick. Not saying Hogan is a bad idea or out of the question, but I think if theyre both there SM would go Adams.

 

[deanpet21]

Why would we want another running gimmick QB? Give me Hogan,Driskell, Allen, Dougherty, Brisett over Adams. Some of those guys should be there in the 5th round. Adams 3rd round is a huge stretch. That is saying he would go over Hackenburg and Prescott who should be 3rd round picks.

 

[skinsdad62]

Why would we want another running gimmick QB? Give me Hogan,Driskell, Allen, Dougherty, Brisett over Adams. Some of those guys should be there in the 5th round. Adams 3rd round is a huge stretch. That is saying he would go over Hackenburg and Prescott who should be 3rd round picks.

you need to research adams better he isnt any of those thing as we saw at the east /west shrine game now him being a 3rd round pick could be a stretch but dougherty was awful in the sr bowl driskel is a CFLer allen maybe and the othe guy dont have a future . hogan could be a BU in the NFL but he wasnt all that impressive to me

 

[ehb5]

Why would we want another running gimmick QB? Give me Hogan,Driskell, Allen, Dougherty, Brisett over Adams. Some of those guys should be there in the 5th round. Adams 3rd round is a huge stretch. That is saying he would go over Hackenburg and Prescott who should be 3rd round picks.

As skinsdad you need to do some research. He isnt a running gimmick QB. And I didnt say we should take him in the 3rd, I said a late round pick just like those other guys you named. And Id prefer him to any of them. And as a PSU fan yea Id way rather have Adams then Hack lol.

 

[deanpet21]

Well he is not a pocket passer. I am not going to fall in love with him b/c of the college all star games. ehb, if its the 5th round and hack and Adams are still on the board, I think the pick would be hack. I am predicting Hack will go over Adams in the draft. The guys that I mentioned ran pro style offenses that has a huge advantage over a guy like Adams who ran a spread offense in Oregon. Adams will get over drafted b/c people will compare him to Wilson.

 

[ehb5]

Well he is not a pocket passer. I am not going to fall in love with him b/c of the college all star games. ehb, if its the 5th round and hack and Adams are still on the board, I think the pick would be hack. I am predicting Hack will go over Adams in the draft. The guys that I mentioned ran pro style offenses that has a huge advantage over a guy like Adams who ran a spread offense in Oregon. Adams will get over drafted b/c people will compare him to Wilson.

This has nothing to do with college all star games. Hes very talented. And I dont think you're wrong about Hack going before Adams, but Id rather have Adams. And he'll slide due to his height. I doubt he gets overdrafted in this class of QBs.

 

[JonBlaze]

I doubt he gets drafted or goes round 6-7. I keep seeing Russell Wilson comparisons but they have much different body types. Wilson is stocky/thick, Adams looks frail. We worried about RG3, this guy is shorter and 20 lbs lighter. Intriguing improvisational skills and run/pass talent, but I think he's going to struggle with this launch point and just being tiny and getting smashed. Now he'll go on and be an All Pro

 

[skinz2winz]

Look, Adams is 5'11" on a good day. Has character issues as noted by some at EWU and had the most difficult time passing a math class in order to leave EWU for Oregon. I live up here in the NW, daughter went to EWU while Adams was there so I saw him plenty. We don't want anything to do with Adams and his diminutive stature.

 

[ehb5]

Look, Adams is 5'11" on a good day. Has character issues as noted by some at EWU and had the most difficult time passing a math class in order to leave EWU for Oregon. I live up here in the NW, daughter went to EWU while Adams was there so I saw him plenty. We don't want anything to do with Adams and his diminutive stature.

Do we not want anything to do with Russell Wilsons diminutive stature? What does a math class have to do with anything? He was also measured 5'11" at the combine so that is his height. And his "character issues" as far as I can tell go as far as underage drinking which umm is not really a concern at all. So all in all taking him doesnt seem bad at all.

 

[gkekoa]

There are just better late round gambles than a miniature QB in my opinion.

 

[Mitziman]

6-7th round, or if they are lucky via UDFA I would take Jake Coker. Kid is just a little slow picking things up, but a few years watching and learning a system could translate into something special down the road.

 

[skinz2winz]

Do we not want anything to do with Russell Wilsons diminutive stature? What does a math class have to do with anything? He was also measured 5'11" at the combine so that is his height. And his "character issues" as far as I can tell go as far as underage drinking which umm is not really a concern at all. So all in all taking him doesnt seem bad at all.

Adams played well at EWU, put that in perspective for a moment. He was not the same QB at Oregon. Why? Because he is a less talented Johnny Football, that's why. He is basically a smaller RGIV. He likely goes undrafted and no way in hell does the Skins draft him.

 

[ehb5]

Adams played well at EWU, put that in perspective for a moment. He was not the same QB at Oregon. Why? Because he is a less talented Johnny Football, that's why. He is basically a smaller RGIV. He likely goes undrafted and no way in hell does the Skins draft him.

I would disagree on all of this save for he may go undrafted but in any case I dont think its worth it to either of us to argue over a potential 6th round 3rd string QB lol. Twas just a thought, I had and Ill certainly lose zero sleep over it if he never gets to play a down in the NFL.

 

[skinsdad62]

i like vernon adams but i also know at the spot i have drafted him it is a flier type guy and no big deal if he fails