Playing the numbers division by division

[Ned_Merrill]

Now I can't believe I went through all this

You dissed the Hawks, but otherwise, Props to You, man.
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[Brees#1]

I forgot to go over this at season's end

Before the 2013 season I had done this and I never looked back to see how I really did. I'm going to do this again, where I will go each division and then go back to 2011 for each team to see how their record vs said division(including their own) was+same place matchups each year and to predict how they will do this season(rest of the way).

I tried this on another forum last year and was accused of being autistic. I don't know if I honestly am but I am a gemini and geminis tend to have unique qualities and try to make the most of anything, which is why I do stuff like this.

AFC East

vs.AFC's other three divisions each year
NE
11,12-4-0
13,14-3-1
15' prediction-4-0. NE is supposed to be trending downward here but they still own the colts and the other three teams are simply not elite enough(or at all to beat NE)

It turns out I was right on this one. Next year, 3-1 with loss at steelers as it stands.

Buf
11-3-1
12,13-1-3
14-0-4
15' prediction-4-0. Buffalo went 2-2 in 10 so the order has been 2-2, 3-1, 1-3. They backtracked to 0-4. But they had never gone 0-4 against a AFC division before. Given the division they are playing I think 4-0 will happen with the now reverse order. [/QUOTE]

I was wrong here, but they did go 3-1. Next year I'm expecting 2-2 with those two wins being Cleveland and at Buffalo.

Mia
11-2-2
12-1-3
13-3-1
14-2-2
15' prediction-1-3. The numbers stay consistent here. Miami has not stalled since 2010 on the same record. They have already split the Ten/Jac road games and I think they should lose the home games to Houston and Indy. [/QUOTE]

I was wrong here as they did stall again at 2-2. Next year I can only see them beating Cleveland as it stands.

NYJ
11,12-2-2
13,14-1-3
15' prediction-3-1. In 2010, they went 3-1 so the pattern is 3-1, 2-2, 1-3. Given they are playing the south 0-4 is not possible and they have not gone 0-4 against a AFC division yet. They already have beaten Indy and should beat Tennessee week 15. Jacksonville was looking like a loss but with how jets are playing so far, I don't see that happening. Houston is their loss.[/QUOTE]

I was right here. 2-2 next year beating Baltimore(who they have not beaten in over a decade but have Cincinatti however, Cincinatti has a trend going) and Cleveland.

vs.NFC's four divisions
NE
11-3-1
12-1-3
13,14-3-1
15' prediction-3-1. They skipped over 2-2 but going 1-3 was a anomaly for NE. They have always been 3-1 or 4-0. NE could go 4-0 here but I think they still will have trouble with NYG.[/QUOTE]

I was right on the record, wrong on the game. Next year I expect their loss to be Seattle.

Buf
11-2-2
12,13-1-3
14-4-0
15' prediction-2-2. They skip 3-1, because its not possible for them to win in Philadelphia and Washington back to back weeks. Atlanta just did it in NY/Dallas, but Buffalo offensively is not them. I think they lose to Washington because of it being the later of the b2b road games. They will have a chance to back up to 3-1 next year if they can win against both LA(rams) and Arizona.[/QUOTE]

I did make the right guess they couldn't win both road games. But they lost both road games flipping back around to the opposite direction. If that's the case 2-2 makes sense next year with the wins coming against SF and LA. However, I think they could beat Arizona but it's really close. If they do they jump.

Mia
11-1-3
12-2-2
13-1-3
14-2-2
15' prediction-1-3. From 09-14 Miami had been going back and forth between 1-3 and 2-2 because they were not good enough to beat NFC teams for the most part from 11-15. I think it continues as they already had their sole NFC East win @Washington.[/QUOTE]

Another stall for them as they won both road games. Next year, it's hard to see them not going 1-3 as I can see SF as the only win. They have west coast road issues as well so LA could be a problem. In StL I would take Miami easily.

NYJ
11,12-2-2
13-3-1
14-0-4
15' prediction-1-3. Their remaining two games are on the road and against a in-city rival who has owned them and Dallas, where at home it would be more winnable. They already lost to Philadelphia, the only tough team they have even played so far. They can't beat the competitive until they do.[/QUOTE]

I could completely got this one wrong. They reversed to 3-1. Next year, though I see 1-3, not 2-2. I don't see them beating Arizona and SF on the road and if they go 2-2 they pull off the home upset against Seattle. I'm calling the jump over 2-2 here.

vs.single same place home/road matchups from the other three AFC divisions
NE
11,12-1-1
13,14-2-0
15' prediction-2-0. For NE it's all about who is elite and who isn't and if it's at home or on the road. They already beat Pittsburgh but Denver's offense might be enough to lose to NE, even if it's at home.[/QUOTE]

Wrong here. As for next year I see 1-1 again, beating Houston and losing at Denver.

Buf
11-0-2
12-2-0
13,14-1-1
15' prediction-1-1. They already lost to Cincinatti but this year it seems they will get back to their winning ways against KC as they are without JC now. It works itself out as pre-season they were supposed to beat Cincy and lose @KC.[/QUOTE]

Looks like they did trek downward to 0-2 as the pattern was indicating. Next year, they were looking good for 2-0 but raiders are playing in Oak next year so that will be a loss again. They reverse from bottom up.

Mia
11-0-2
12,13-2-0
14-1-1
15' prediction-1-1. If there's a opportunity to beat Baltimore it's this season. I don't think they win in SD. And the five days rest after a home game against NYG doesn't hep.[/QUOTE]

And I was right, they cashed in on that opportunity to beat Baltimore and barely beat them. As I said before, they have west coast road issues compared to midwest/northeast. Next year they should move down to 0-2. With Murray going to Tennessee especially that just made that road upset(which Tennessee is good at doing) even more possible. And they won't beat SD next year either again.


NYJ
11-1-1
12-0-2
13-1-1
14-2-0
15' prediction-1-1. It appears it is going in trap order, up to the highest and down to the lowest. They already beat Cleveland. And even though they have beaten most teams that are mediocre, Oakland follows a big division road game and is a back to back road game plus traveling across the country between the two. Oakland also is playing better at home than before and also better overall than before.[/QUOTE]

So next up is 1-1 or 0-2. They should lose at KC, but it's close against the colts. That can go either way. This is a toss-up 1-1 or 0-2.

Vs.own division
NE
11-5-1
12-6-0
13,14-4-2
15' prediction-4-2. The lowest NE can ever go is 4-2 until Brady falls off. Beating Buffalo on the road and not playing at home week 17 indicates a sweep. I think given the close games recently and what they are doing this year, they will split with the jets and will not need to win the last game in Miami if they win week 8.[/QUOTE]

Well they did need to win the last game but lost anyway so 4-2 it was. But it's a toss-up against the jets next year so they stay 4-2 or go to 5-1. I think pats-jets will be the week 1 CBS game of the week which could be bad for the jets but Miami did it two years ago.

Buf
11-1-5
12-2-4
13-3-3
14-4-2
15' prediction-3-3. Buffalo since 2011 has gotten better each year in the division. They have won in Miami, and have them at home next time. However, Buffalo has looked bad at home so far sans week 1 and with the big revenge game right after on short rest, I think they lose one of them. Their road performance is good so far and I think they win in NJ and sweep the jets again, with the home game being in December. They reverse numerically in the other direction.[/QUOTE]

Nope, 4-2 again but next year I think 3-3 has to happen which means they are sweeping NYJ or Miami again but not the other.

Mia
11-3-3
12,13-2-4
14-3-3
15' prediction-3-3. They split with all three for the second straight year. They go on the road against the jets but that's where they have had their number in their rivalry. This year would make that 4 straight road wins. They get a break against NE.[/QUOTE]

I was off here. They went 1-5. If it's going 3-3, 1-5, then next year 2-2 making them the likely team to get swept again by Buffalo.

NYJ
11-3-3
12-2-4
13-3-3
14-1-5
15' prediction-2-4. They get the leftover numbers here, they were 4-2 in 10 and instead of going to 4-2 last year, they went 1-5, indicating they were not good enough to go 4-2. In recent years, Buffalo has started standing up to them and Miami has split with them since 09. It makes sense they get one other division win only and it being week 16 against NE.[/QUOTE]

This one was also off, but I think it was the jump not reverse. Either way, 2-4 would be next or they stay at 3-3 meaning the NE matchup is the one pending.



Division standings prediction
New England 13-3
Buffalo 10-6
New York 7-9
Miami 6-10

Basically Buffalo will soon pick it up and start putting up a strong run. Jets second half will be their undoing, starting with Buffalo, and Miami won't turn it around(two tough games coming up).

AFC North next.[/QUOTE]

Well Buffalo ended up being in the slump. They went 4-0 at home after the bye and after the jets road game went 0-4 on the road. Jets did go on a run after week 11. I did not see that sweep of Miami at all coming.

 

[Brees#1]

How do you use the quote feature when writing in between quoted post?

 

[Brees#1]

AFC North

vs.AFC's three other divisions
Pit
11-3-1
12-1-3
13-2-2
14-4-0
15' prediction-4-0. They skipped over 3-1 but with how things appear so far, they look to win in KC and should win both home games against Oakland and the offenseless Denver staying 4-0 for the second straight season.

They went 3-1 and ended up being the team KC turned things around against. That was a loss after all. But they recovered the 3-1 and I have them going 4-0 next year against the AFC East.

Cin
11-14-3-1
15' prediction-3-1. They have already won three and the remaining one is at Denver likely a loss. In 10, they went 0-4 and in 09 1-3 going in a 1-3, 0-4, 3-1 direction.

3-1 again and 3-1 again next year, losing to NE.



Bal
11-2-2
12-3-1
13,14-2-2
15' prediction-2-2. While they look the worst they have looked under Harbaugh ever, they should beat the two AFC West teams at home, who lack a running games and offensive line play. And after they lose Monday, they will need to beat SD.

They didn't beat KC. 1-3. As for next year, I will have to say 1-3 again.

Cle
11-2-2
12-3-1
13,14-1-3
15' prediction-1-3. This looked like 0-4 but KC without JC changed that and I think Cleveland takes a pointless road win week 16.

They actually almost WON in KC but they did go 0-4. I see 0-4 again next year.

vs.NFC's four divisions
Pit
11,12-3-1
13,14-2-2
15' prediction-3-1. They already are 3-0 and basically they have not gone 1-3 since 2003 and 4-0 since 2005. It has been 2-2 or 3-1. It's reasonable they lose at Seattle.

Yep 3-1. And they will go 3-1 next year too losing either at Philadelphia or Washington.

Cin
11-13-3-1
14-3-0-1
15' prediction-3-1. In 10, they went 1-3 and before that 3-1. 2-2's been skipped over while Cincy just went 3-0-1 they still stayed at 3 wins. They beat Seattle already, and won't have to play SF in primetime(that's getting flexed) so that and StL should be their other wins keeping the 3 win trend intact.

They haven't gone anything but 3-1 or 3-0-1 since 2010 against either divisions. Next year, they should pull out a win at either Dallas or NJ.

Bal
11-3-1
12,13-2-2
14-4-0
15' prediction-1-3. They had been 2-2 or better under Harbaugh against NFC divisions. This year is looking different and last year they went 4-0 for the first time against NFC. The backtrack to 1-3 is what I see with them losing at home to St.Louis, not Seattle.

Oops. As for the pattern, they are supposed to go from top down however I cannot see it. But this is a situation that underscores the NFL's unpredictability. They could beat the giants or cowboys if Flacco is healthy and they have a decent running game. I'm gonna say even though I really don't think so and it won't factor into my preseason predictions, they lose one of the home games against Washington or Philadelphia and go 1-3 again.




Cle
11-1-3
12-0-4
13-1-3
14-3-1
15' prediction-0-4. Not in line with the actual numbers but it was rare for Cleveland to even go 3-1 last year, as it hasn't happened since 07. I think the 3-1 was a extra bump and they don't backtrack to 2-2. They start back from the top(that they will go) to the bottom of the record order.

They beat SF for 1-3. I'm not sure how this went though, I think because the browns are lucky to have a 2-2 or better record against a division when they do the 3-1 was just one of those breaks for them outside the normal 1-3 and 0-4. I am seeing 0-4 next year as it's 0-4, 1-3, 3-1, 1-3, 0-4.

vs.same place home/road matchups from AFC's other three divisions
Pit
11-2-0
12-1-1
13-0-2
14-1-1
15' prediction-1-1. They already lost at NE and before the season I had them losing to Indy but that doesn't look likely now and the numbers here support it.

1-1 they went. Next year they beat KC but not Indy. And that game will likely be the world series week.

Cin
11,12-1-1
13-2-0
14-1-1
15' prediction-2-0. They're too consistent to be 0-2 right now and haven't been since 09. Hard to see them losing to Houston.

They did lose to Houston. But I can see 0-2 next year with Denver and Houston, but I'm going 1-1 and them losing at Houston again.

Bal
11-14-1-1
15' prediction-0-2. They almost lost to Jacksonville last year and this year given the regression/improvement among each of them, I think Jacksonville succeeds in their second attempt. I already have them losing in Miami. In 10, they went 2-0. Their glory days appear to be over.

Spot on. And they go to Jacksonville next year. It should be a loss again as they have some problems against them. But they will beat Oakland so 1-1(2-0, 1-1(4), 0-2, 1-1)



Cle
11-1-1
12,13-0-2
14-1-1
15' prediction-1-1. They already have done that. Tennessee was the option, they were not winning in NJ.

As for next year, I think they don't go 3 in a row against Tennessee with the Murray deal. But as for SD, that one's a toss-up. They aren't a 2-0 team anytime soon. So they will stay 1-1 or go 0-2.

vs.their own division
Pit
11-4-2
12-3-3
13,14-4-2
15-4-2. This comes down to week 8. If Pittsburgh were to win that, then 5-1 division. But I think Big Ben will be a rusted coming back so I am picking a split. They win week 14 in Cincinatti. Cleveland gets swept.

It was actually 3-3. But next year that won't happen. They should get back to sweeping Cincy next year and splitting with Bmore. Cleveland might get a split though because the pattern is not aiming at 5-1.


Cin
11-2-4
12-14-3-3
15' prediction-4-2. In 10, they went 2-4 and before that 6-0. They lose one game to Cleveland again and week 14 against Pittsburgh.

Skip over for them(5-1). However, like Cleveland against NFC, their usual peak is 3-3 so I think 5-1 was a rarity where I think they get back to 3-3(2-4, 3-3, 5-1, 3-3, 2-4). They are due for a split with Baltimore.

Bal
11-6-0
12-4-2
13,14-3-3
15' prediction-2-4. They went 6-0 in 11, but in this division winning 11 games in two years is hard to do. That doesn't usually happen. And Baltimore is trending downward.

Somehow they were able to sweep Pitt. Next year, though, they probably will be better so I am going to say 3-3 again as Cleveland will need at least a couple wins but they are due for a win against Cincy.

Cle
11-0-6
12-14-2-4
15' prediction-2-4. In 10, they went 1-5 and before that 1-5. 2-4 is the highest they have been getting so they are going 1-5, 0-6, 2-4. They beat Cincinatti one time again and already beat Baltimore.

They broke the stalling period and continued to trek downward. But they could go 0-10 or 1-9 ood that that might make them take a couple in the division so I'm gonna say they go back to 2-4.

AFC north standings prediction
Pittsburgh 12-4(common game tie-breaker)
Cincinatti 12-4
Baltimore 5-11
Cleveland 4-12

AFC South is next.

I was wrong on final records with Pittsburgh and Cleveland though that's a product of the rest of the numbers.

Okay I'm not going to predict anymore numbers for next year as that's a long way away for now. Just update how I did with the rest.

 

[Brees#1]

AFC South

vs.AFC's other three divisions
Ind
11-0-4(anomaly)
12-2-2
13,14-3-1
15' prediction-1-3. In 10, they went 3-1. The Luck era started in 12 after anomaly year left by the absence of Peyton, so they jumped to 2-2 as 0-4 under Luck won't happen and 0-4 never happened under Manning. They have lost three already but will beat Miami.

That was predictable from when I posted this.

Hou
11,12-3-1
13-1-3
14-2-2
15' prediction-2-2. They have not played anyone yet. I have them beating Miami and NYJ.

I didn't get it right here. They got killed in Miami.

Jac
11-1-3
12,13-0-4
14-1-3
15' prediction-1-3. I only had them beating the one they already beat.

Woops, they beat Buffalo too but the trend is staying in motion.

Ten
11-2-2
12-3-1
13-2-2
14-0-4
15' prediction-0-4. Last year was odd but Tennessee was a bad team. And with then losing two home games already, and based on the east predictions, looks like two straight years at 0-4. I had them 1-3 before the season beating Miami.

Yep.

vs.NFC's four divisions
Ind
11-0-4
12-3-1
13,14-2-2
15' prediction-4-0. Against this division, 2-2 is the ceiling. They just will not lose to Carolina and TB. It was 2-2 again or 4-0/ If I pick them to lose to saints, they lose to Atlanta. If I pick them to beat saints, they beat Atlanta. After losing to NE I don't think they can afford to lose back to back home games. So I pick Indy to go 4-0 win this week and will get it together after the bye week and beat a Atlanta team who has been lucking out many games.

Well, I guess the 2-2 was where I should have stayed. They beat Atlanta over Carolina though. Honestly they almost won all four. If anything this should have been enough to give away that the saints and panthers had no special wins here.

Hou
11,12-2-2
13-0-4
14-1-3
15' prediction-2-2. After 09, the NFC's rise was too much for Houston as they have not been able to be better than .500 each year. I think they beat NO in addition to already beating TB. Also, there's a trend where NO and TB have gone 2-2 or 0-4 in road IC games since 05.

That trend ended but Houston did win both games when after the colts game I thought saints would win there. But that didn't happen.

Jac
11-1-3
12,13-0-4
14-1-3
15' prediction-0-4. They still are the jags and it doesn't look like they are ready to contend yet. 2-2 would be a first since 08. Their last two games are against Atlanta and at NO, and I think it's hard to see them winning either. So back to 0-4.

That was almost looking like 1-3 but saints surprised me.

Ten
11-2-2
12,13-1-3
14-0-4
15' prediction-1-3. I think it would be 3-1 or 1-3. I honestly don't think with what I am seeing so far they can beat Carolina. They beat TB already and there's the possibility they pose a trap at NO but don't think it happens. Atlanta isn't happening with Marriotta out. They actually lose four straight home games.

They managed to move bottom up to jump to 2-2. Though they did this before in 07 and 08 against the AFC West and AFC North(where they went 2-2 and 4-0). They could move back to 1-3 next year but their offseason just got interesting.

vs.home/road same place matchups from other three divisions
Ind
11-0-2(anomaly)
12-2-0
13,14-0-2
15' prediction-0-2. Kind of hard to tell. 1-1 was skipped but Manning never went 0-2. Luck era started them at 2-0, 0-2. They should lose to Denver and Pittsburgh to go 0-2 again.

They went 1-1 actually.

Hou
11-1-1
12-2-0
13-0-2
14-2-0
15' prediction-0-2.they skipped 1-1 because of going to Oakland and hosting the bills, games simply too winnable. But I don't see the backtrack to 1-1, they should lose to Cincinatti.

Um, they did beat Cincinatti.

Jac
11,12-0-2
13-1-1
14-0-2
15' prediction-1-1. With the matchups this year 2-0 is possible but I'm going 1-1. They lose to SD for the fifth straight time. They went 2-0 in 10 with Garrard as qb, but they've been bad since that year.

And for some odd reason they managed to lose to SD who was much worse than when I posted this.

Ten
11-2-0
12-1-1
13-2-0
14-1-1
15' prediction-1-1. In 10, they went 0-2. They were going in a downward order but then stagnated between 2-0 and 1-1. They already lost to Cleveland but I think they beat Oakland, staying at 1-1.

Wrong here, they went 0-2.

vs.their own division
Ind
11-2-4(anomaly)
12-4-2
13,14-6-0
15' prediction-5-1. They never went 2-4 under Manning, so Luck era started them at 4-2, 6-0. I think next is 5-1 and given Indy will nothing to play for the last game, the titan get a freebie.

Dead wrong here. They went 4-2. Apparently they are either 4-2 or 6-0 with this current pattern.

Hou
11-4-2
12-5-1
13-1-5
14-4-2
15' prediction-3-3. Jackonville and Tennessee were much worse than Houston it was impossible for Houston to lose to them when contenders and 13 was a anomaly for them in a way because they had a tougher schedule and they carried over in division play. With two numbers jumped over(Pittburgh did this in 10 going from 2-4 to 5-1 and since 4-2, 3-3, 4-2, 4-2), Houston has to back up. They back up to 3-3 as Jacksonville will get swept again but the titans get them once as Mariotta will get it together.

Because they ended up winning the division, they went 5-1. There could be a pattern here where when they're good they can run over J/T and when bad they're good for losing three games combined.

Jac
11-3-3
12-2-4
13-3-3
14-1-5
15' prediction-1-5. They have not gone 4-2 since 05, when they went 12-4 overall and was Indy's biggest competition. They stagnated between the two numbers since until last year. I think they lose to Indy and Houston twice again and split with Tennessee again.

They went 2-4 actually.

Ten
11-3-3
12-1-5
13-2-4
14-1-5
15' prediction-3-3. They reversed in 14 because they were not good enough to go 3-3. They are getting lucky this year beating Indy the last game. They had Indy the last game this year but Indy was still playing for the 3rd seed.

I may have given them too much credit as they were 1-5 again.

AFC south standings prediction
Indianapolis 10-6
Houston 7-9
Tennessee 5-11
Jacksonville 3-13

AFC West next. I know people think this is weird but I'm not using numbers to make my predictions unless they are toss-ups. I am seeing how the numbers go with what's playing out, likely to play out to me.

The difference in those wins were Houston beating Indy and Tennessee additionally and beating Cincinatti in place of Miami. Indy losing two NFC games knocked them to 8-8 but also they traded a loss with a win by beating Denver and losing to Houston.

 

[Brees#1]

I didn't see the responses to these posts. Yeah I do need a girlfriend but that's not happening with my standards. Although I am making some changes for the better or trying to.

 

[handicappers]

I didn't see the responses to these posts. Yeah I do need a girlfriend but that's not happening with my standards. Although I am making some changes for the better or trying to.

shave your bawlz, that worked for me.

 

[Brees#1]

NFC East

vs.NFC's three other divisions
Dal
11-3-1
12-2-2
13-1-3
14-2-2
15' prediction-2-2. I think they reverse at the ceiling here and they already lost two games, they should beat TB and Carolina.

I can't even explain how this one went the way it did. I think 3-1 was skipped over. Because, while I'm not going to outright predict it they can go 3-1 against the north beating all but GB next year.

Phi
11,12-1-3
13-3-1
14-1-3
15' prediction-2-2. They went 4-0 in 08, 3-1 in 09, and 1-3 in 10. 2-2 was skipped but The Vick era changed things in 10, and Kelly era began in 13. I think they beat TB and lose to Carolina so the numbers point to backing up to 2-2 but continuing going in a downward order.

As of recent they appear to be in a 3-1, 1-3 funk.

NYG
11-2-2
12,13-3-1
14-1-3
15' prediction-1-3. Giants I only have beating TB and losing to Carolina and NO. They could beat Carolina I just don't think they will.

And they could have beaten Carolina and almost did but they didn't. The 1-3 was right.

Was
11-3-1
12-2-2
13-1-3
14-0-4
15' prediction-0-4. They have been going in a up and down order, up to 3-1 and down to 0-4. Until Philadelphia beat NO, I had them beating NO. Now I don't think that happens and I don't see them beating TB who has more talent despite being as poorly coached and qb'd.

They went 2-2 which imo was off sequence. I don't think it's so much a jump either given next year's games.

vs.AFC's four divisions
Dal
11-2-2
12-3-1
13-1-3
14-4-0
15' prediction-2-2. So they have gone in a forward order until last year where they did something similar to KC the last two years against the AFC divisions(going 3-1 and 4-0 and after being at best 2-2 since 05), backing up to a record they never achieved in a while(Dallas never went 4-0 vs AFC before). This starts under the new Linehan era also. Before the season, I had them losing in Miami but I don't think it happens now. And losing to the jets isn't likely either so they're moving downward and skip over 3-1. I don't see a win in Buffalo.

I think sometimesits hard to go against what doesn't make sense but they were supposed to go 1-3 last year anyway based on this I just didn't think they could lose to Miami and NYJ, in which one did not have Romo. When something seems impossible, something happens to make it possible.

Phi
11,12-2-2
13-1-3
14-4-0
15' prediction-2-2. I don't think they beat Buffalo, and they will definitely lose at NE. So they skip as well like Dallas over 3-1.

Another instance where I overlooked the 3-1 here. That win in NE was unexpected. However they ended up beating Buffalo instead of Miami. But it isn't about who they beat but the number.

NYG
11-4-0
12,13-1-3
14-2-2
15' prediction-4-0. They went 2-2 in 10, skipping over 1-3 to go 4-0 in 11 but at that time giants were not a 1-3 team against any division. So the backup happen after the sb year and they've gone forward since. I have them skipping over 3-1 with the win over Buffalo. If they can win that, they can win in Miami. They own the jets and have recently owned NE.

This may have been what led to the FO change. They had a good history against this division but ended up staying 2-2 again.

Was
11-0-4
12-14-2-2
15' prediction-1-3. Washington's numbers don't factor in much, just that they have usually gone 2-2 against AFC with occasional 1-3 in 08 and 0-4 in 11. I think that's the case again because they should lose to NE. I think they beat Buffalo because of the back to back road trip in December.

Well this happened and Washington usually always bests Philadelphia when a team plays them both back to back.

vs.same place home/road matchups from the three other divisions
Dal
11-1-1
12-0-2
13-1-1
14-2-0
15' prediction-1-1. They have been going in a up and down order. In 10, they went 0-2 and in 09 they went 1-1. They apparently went out of sequence temporarily in 12 where they were supposed to be 2-0 but the matchups were Chicago and Seattle(who were good at the time). They have not stayed at one record back to back years since 08. Given how GB have played a little worse offensively I think they get payback in Green Bay with a healthy Romo and Dez. It doesn't affect GB having the top seed.

Since they didn't have Romo and Dez they didn't get payback. So things went off track here and they broke the up-down and moved from top up to the bottom.

Phi
11,12-0-2
13-2-0
14-1-1
15' prediction-1-1. I think they stay at 1-1, they beat Detroit on Thanksgiving but lose to Arizona.

Nope, they went 0-2.

NYG
11-0-2
12-2-0
13-0-2
14-1-1
15' prediction-1-1. They were 0-2, 2-0, vice versa from 09-13. They don't stand much of a chance in Minnesota because of AP but giants have been strangely good against defensive teams that don't have elite offenses. However, Minnesota's looking like a tough place to go to.

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Was
11-0-2
12-1-1
13,14-0-2
15' prediction-1-1. They are not good enough to go 2-0 right now. They do play a team whose number they have had in well over a decade but this team is not likely to win in Chicago. And that streak snap is due.

So I was wrong here on that 2-0 front.

vs.their own division
Dal
11-2-4
12-3-3
13-5-1
14-4-2
15' prediction-3-3. Before the season I had them sweeping Washington but they're not gonna be able to play for anything the last week.

Yep. They did win week 13 but I did not think it would be without Romo.

Phi
11-5-1
12-1-5
13,14-4-2
15' prediction-3-3. They jumped over two numbers to go 4-2 in 13 and stay there. They back up to 3-3 since I have them splitting in all three and the last game of season, giants will win if they have a chance to take the east or get a higher seed.

But giants ended up not having a chance due to losing games they had no business losing against the pats and jets. But Washington pulled out the sweep. So they still went 3-3.

NYG
11-13-3-3
14-2-4
15' prediction-3-3. They went 4-2 in 09 and 3-3 in 10, going in a up and down order. They really should go 4-2 but kind of hard to ignore the numbers here so they don't win in Washington week 12 and split with all three.

Turns out they didn't even go 3-3.

Was
11-2-4
12-5-1
13-0-6
14-2-4
15' prediction-3-3. Washington had a fluke 5-1 year in 12, that happened as well in 05. Usually they have gone at best 3-3 any other time. Their numbers are all over the place and it comes down to the other three division rivals. I think they split with all three this year given all the circumstances.

Washington's always been the most unpredictable here. So their numbers relied on the rest of the division, which gave them 4-2. Next year they will have first dibs and I expect a regression.

As of now I am 22-41 and skipped AFC West. So I'll get to that.

 

[Brees#1]

Extra wrongs for the rest.

AFC West
Denver vs.NFC North(3-1 over 4-0)..right pattern, in division(6-0 over 5-1), and wrong swing win(Indy over NE)
KC vs.AFC North(0-4 over 3-1)...wrong pattern, in division(1-5 over 5-1)...right pattern, and loss vs Buffalo
SD vs.NFC North(2-2 over 1-3)...right pattern, in division(0-6 over 2-4)...right pattern
Oak vs.NFC North(1-3 over 0-4)..wrong pattern, wrong division wins(KCx2 over Denver and SD), loss at Tennessee


NFC North
GB vs.AFC West(4-0 over 3-1)...right pattern, in division(6-0 over 3-3), wrong swing win(Carolina over Dallas)
Det vs.NFC West(2-2 over 1-3)..wrong pattern, vs.AFC West(2-2 over 1-3)..wrong pattern, in division(3-3 over 1-5)..maybe right patten
, swing games(1-1 over 0-2)...wrong pattern
Min vs.NFC North(1-3 over 3-1)..right pattern, vs.AFC West(2-2 over 3-1)..wrong pattern, in division(3-3 over 5-1)..wrong pattern, swing games(2-0
over 1-1)...right pattern
Chi wrong NFC West win(SF over StL), vs.AFC West(2-2 over 3-1)..right pattern, in division(2-4 over 1-5)...right pattern(but not next year),
swing games(2-0 over 1-1)..right pattern

NFC South
Car vs.NFC East(3-1 over 4-0)...right pattern, Car vs.AFC South(3-1 over 4-0)...right pattern, in division(4-2 over 5-1)...right pattern, swing games(lose to GB)
NO vs.NFC East(3-1 over 2-2)...right pattern, wrong AFC South win(Tennessee over Indy but it's numbers), in division(4-2 over 3-3), win against Detroit
Atl's swing win against Minnesota
TB vs.NFC East(1-3 over 2-2), in division(1-5 over 3-3)

NFC West
Seattle vs.NFC North(2-2 over 3-1), vs.AFC North(2-2 over 3-1), in division(4-2 over 3-3)
Arizona vs.NFC North(3-1 over 4-0)
SF vs.NFC North(1-3 over 2-2), vs.AFC North(2-2 over 1-3)
StL vs.AFC North(2-2 over 1-3), in division(3-3 over 4-2)

Apparently here I got 37 wrong here numerically, 14 right.

 

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@Brees#1 You may have not been right but you put a lot of work into this thread. Good on you buddy.