Pens v. Devs GNT

[pixburgher66]

What a boring game. Lemaire, you suck (at producing exciting hockey).

 

[loki604]

Ok...maybe this is dumb, but if I'm Dan Bylsma, why not start this game with three guys initially on the forecheck? You know you don't play well against teams that play more conservatively. You are relying on speed and grit this game with little skill. Especially after that early first goal, I would be tempted to go for broke and rely on my goalie (yes, Johnny let up that early one, but he's generally solid), and we always have trouble with the 1-2-2 + puck-playing goalie. Just gamble. Set the tone yourselves instead of relying on them. Gamble the odd man breaks (and I say this because this is a team that is comfortable in the standings and playing without its two best players...I wouldn't generally advocate this).

 

[TiLoBrown]

God bless Doc. "All 20 players played well tonight" Seems Hedberg saved his own life twice while on the bench.

 

[pixburgher66]

Even the linesman are choking tonight.

 

[evolver115]

These mothafuckin refs!!!

That was onsides

 

[TiLoBrown]

Hey, blame the boring on the fact that the Pens just got out played for most of the night. If the Pens actually tried to win this thing, it may have been more exciting.

 

[evolver115]

Good game marty


Fuck you zebras



that is all

 

[pixburgher66]

Ok...maybe this is dumb, but if I'm Dan Bylsma, why not start this game with three guys initially on the forecheck? You know you don't play well against teams that play more conservatively. You are relying on speed and grit this game with little skill. Especially after that early first goal, I would be tempted to go for broke and rely on my goalie (yes, Johnny let up that early one, but he's generally solid), and we always have trouble with the 1-2-2 + puck-playing goalie. Just gamble. Set the tone yourselves instead of relying on them. Gamble the odd man breaks (and I say this because this is a team that is comfortable in the standings and playing without its two best players...I wouldn't generally advocate this).

I mean, it's hard to judge from our position exactly what the gameplan really was. But teams beat this system, and we consistently DON'T. That falls on the coach for finding a system that works against these type of teams. Sure, you can stick to your BS about "we gotta play OUR game and not deviate from that!" but, if your "game" doesn't work against a certain style, you won't win. It's clear to me that unless this team gets to their game early and often, they don't win. They apparently can't make adjustments.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Whew!! Talbo won the early part of that one.

Not impressed by whoever that was for NJ.







and that won't be called, i'm sure

It was sesito.Clarksob is the only true fighter the devs roster now

 

[pixburgher66]

And, not to say that the game is different if this happens, but WHY is Fleury out? This is a light part of our season. There are 2 more games until the AS Break, and even though Marc will be there, it's not like it's strenuous. He's been playing great, and I can say with great confidence that he'd play that first shot a long better than Beej did.

 

[evolver115]

I mean, it's hard to judge from our position exactly what the gameplan really was. But teams beat this system, and we consistently DON'T. That falls on the coach for finding a system that works against these type of teams. Sure, you can stick to your BS about "we gotta play OUR game and not deviate from that!" but, if your "game" doesn't work against a certain style, you won't win. It's clear to me that unless this team gets to their game early and often, they don't win. They apparently can't make adjustments.

I think it would have been worthwhile for Disco to change it up, tonight. Once they put the forecheck on, low and behold, the opportunities started to happen.

IMO, they just weren't physical enough to start the game. Johnny let in a weak ass goal, and it rolled downhill from there.

I'm sure it doesn't make it any easier on the bench when you're without your best two forwards and playing from behind against a trap. The game was over by the end of the 1st period.

 

[pixburgher66]

I think it would have been worthwhile for Disco to change it up, tonight. Once they put the forecheck on, low and behold, the opportunities started to happen.

IMO, they just weren't physical enough to start the game. Johnny let in a weak ass goal, and it rolled downhill from there.

I'm sure it doesn't make it any easier on the bench when you're without your best two forwards and playing from behind against a trap. The game was over by the end of the 1st period.

Yeah...I knew that. I think DB needs to take a long look at the players he has RIGHT NOW and think about shaking things up. Of course we must keep in mind these lines haven't had a ton of quality time to work together (save the "3rd" line with Staal), but still, without Sid and Geno out there the style has to change. The team is a group of grinders right now, so you have to play that style more than anything. Be aggressive on the forecheck and rely a bit more on your D to get back, try to activate the D in the O-zone (didn't happen too much tonight), etc. In other words, adapt. Adapt to the man power you have.

 

[loki604]

And, not to say that the game is different if this happens, but WHY is Fleury out? This is a light part of our season. There are 2 more games until the AS Break, and even though Marc will be there, it's not like it's strenuous. He's been playing great, and I can say with great confidence that he'd play that first shot a long better than Beej did.

Someone told me at work BJ was starting, and I couldn't believe it. Don't get me wrong - for my money, BJ is one of the most reliable backups in the league. But Marc was coming off a great performance, and I assumed he would get the start. The staff puts a little too much emphasis on making sure the backup is getting playing time. Yes, the backup needs to play in certain situations to give the starter time off, and they seem to think there will be a benefit in allowing the backup to stay "fresher", but BJ has been a backup for most of his career. It's not like he doesn't know what it's like.

That being said, not saying it would changed the outcome of the game. It was just perplexing to me.

 

[evolver115]

I question why Dan didn't have Staal centering the top line with Duper and Kunitz. Letestu could have centered the 3rd line, and Jeffery could have been used on the 2nd line.

And I agree, the D played a very cautious game, tonight. But, going up a against a tender like Marty, who loves to push the puck up ice, you have to be ready to retreat fast into your own zone.

 

[TheRobotDevil]

Sorry pens fans if its of any consolation watching the devils play the way they have after dropping jmac and shipping out langs really burns our asses

 

[pixburgher66]

Someone told me at work BJ was starting, and I couldn't believe it. Don't get me wrong - for my money, BJ is one of the most reliable backups in the league. But Marc was coming off a great performance, and I assumed he would get the start. The staff puts a little too much emphasis on making sure the backup is getting playing time. Yes, the backup needs to play in certain situations to give the starter time off, and they seem to think there will be a benefit in allowing the backup to stay "fresher", but BJ has been a backup for most of his career. It's not like he doesn't know what it's like.

That being said, not saying it would changed the outcome of the game. It was just perplexing to me.

They do seem to put a lot of time into Beej. I mean, he's played plenty this season already. But the most baffling part is this: you're missing your two star players, why the HECK intentionally pull out another? I mean, the second I saw Geno was out (in fact I said it in that thread...well, most of us did), I thought "We'll be fine, just need flower to stand on his head." Just seems off.

 

[loki604]

I question why Dan didn't have Staal centering the top line with Duper and Kunitz. Letestu could have centered the 3rd line, and Jeffery could have been used on the 2nd line.

And I agree, the D played a very cautious game, tonight. But, going up a against a tender like Marty, who loves to push the puck up ice, you have to be ready to retreat fast into your own zone.

Which is why it's so perplexing that their dump-ins sucked for half the game. Is this your first time playing him? I understand that certain situations dictate plays, but early in the game, they made some retarded dumps...right to Marty's trapezoid.

 

[flyersfan4706]

Hey Evolver, I thought scoring wasn't the problem? :p

 

[evolver115]

Hey Evolver, I thought scoring wasn't the problem? :p

With 30% of the paid roster missing, yes scoring becomes a problem

So in short.....

 

[SJ20]

Go Devils!