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He is usually listed as having 33" arms.
The NFL standard was typically 34" arms or greater.
That "standard" has been reduced to 33" arma. (my standard is still 34")
The entire football world is waiting for the official combine measurement!
#1 t in the draft could hinge on 1/8"
33.5 Then WTF will the world do?
 

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33.5 Then WTF will the world do?
33.5" would be ok by most.
32 7/8" will be the ulcer decision time......
I want to see 34" minimum! Less than that they can still play the position but will likely never end up as a pro bowl tackle.
See Isaiah Winn.....

6’ 3’’
Weight
313 lbs
Arm
33 3/8’’
Hand
8 1/2’’
 
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But to answer your question, of the two, I want the better player.
They should honestly both be top 10 players in this draft. (Campbell and Membou)

That said, if you guys are taking Guard at 4 he better be Zack Martin.

I personally think Campbell will be a badass Guard. Membou should be a good Guard and probably a good Right Tackle but I see why is height might be scheme specific.
 

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Wonder if they won't do much via the draft but do it through FA...

I am hoping for both
 

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They should honestly both be top 10 players in this draft. (Campbell and Membou)

That said, if you guys are taking Guard at 4 he better be Zack Martin.

I personally think Campbell will be a badass Guard. Membou should be a good Guard and probably a good Right Tackle but I see why is height might be scheme specific.
And to that note. if he can succeed at LT or RT and has potential to be a bad ass guard it's a win win. Personally I think people are making way to big a deal over 1" of arm length. But people are bored right now so why not stir up some conversation?
 

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And to that note. if he can succeed at LT or RT and has potential to be a bad ass guard it's a win win. Personally I think people are making way to big a deal over 1" of arm length. But people are bored right now so why not stir up some conversation?
Rashawn Slater has 33" arms. Pro bowl level LT.

At the end of the day if the technique is flawless then arm length is moot. If the technique has holes then arm length is huge imo
 

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Rashawn Slater has 33" arms. Pro bowl level LT.

At the end of the day if the technique is flawless then arm length is moot. If the technique has holes then arm length is huge imo
Exactly how I feel, and what Vrabel was alluding to in the post I copied and pasted and pretty much what they are saying about Cambell. Bottom line every once in a while, you are going to get beat in thie league no matter how good you are.
 

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I learned to tie the opponent up and then throw a blind hook on the break.
I once ended a fight in 8 seconds with this technique.
I was referring to specifically when my two older cousins used to aggravate my younger cousin and I and hold at arms length with a big hand on the forehead.

But yeah. I ended a fight with a liver kick once. I didn't time it.
 

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And to that note. if he can succeed at LT or RT and has potential to be a bad ass guard it's a win win. Personally I think people are making way to big a deal over 1" of arm length. But people are bored right now so why not stir up some conversation?
A line has been drawn at 33”
The problem with drawing a line is you can never justify the line.
 

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A line has been drawn at 33”
The problem with drawing a line is you can never justify the line.
And you have to question who drew the damn line. Look the NFL doesnt always get it right. Jamarcus Russell RD 1 Selection 1. Tom Brady RD 6 Selection 199. One fricking inch of arm length a difference will not make if the kid is as good as they think he is.
 

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And you have to question who drew the damn line. Look the NFL doesnt always get it right. Jamarcus Russell RD 1 Selection 1. Tom Brady RD 6 Selection 199. One fricking inch of arm length a difference will not make if the kid is as good as they think he is.
My best thoughts on Campbell are that what harm would a rebuilding team endure if he turned out to be a pro bowl guard? What we need is talent 2st- a talented tackle that moved to guard would be a lot better than a tackle bust that becomes one of our 5? Tackle backups?
 

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My best thoughts on Campbell are that what harm would a rebuilding team endure if he turned out to be a pro bowl guard? What we need is talent 2st- a talented tackle that moved to guard would be a lot better than a tackle bust that becomes one of our 5? Tackle backups?
Exactly we need help across the board on the O Line so if for some reason he did not pan out at LT or RT but became a killer OG that aint horrible
 

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My best thoughts on Campbell are that what harm would a rebuilding team endure if he turned out to be a pro bowl guard? What we need is talent 2st- a talented tackle that moved to guard would be a lot better than a tackle bust that becomes one of our 5? Tackle backups?
2st?

Is that like 1st and a half?
 

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One fricking inch of arm length a difference will not make if the kid is as good as they think he is.
And it will be the biggest head slap if he's a bust at LT.

Just read the clips of the 28 top LTs available for the draft. The compliments were excellent and the weakness analysis were brutal.
Half of the LTs are projected to be best at OG. Others are thought to be best at RT. Maybe six or seven are considered to be eventual starters. None were considered to be eventual pro bowlers.

Again..........................it's all opinions of people considered to be experts.

Oh yeah, Southie and I like Trapilo and Walters has him ranked 27 of 28. Biggest problem? Needs to 'bulk' up.
 

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And it will be the biggest head slap if he's a bust at LT.

Just read the clips of the 28 top LTs available for the draft. The compliments were excellent and the weakness analysis were brutal.
Half of the LTs are projected to be best at OG. Others are thought to be best at RT. Maybe six or seven are considered to be eventual starters. None were considered to be eventual pro bowlers.

Again..........................it's all opinions of people considered to be experts.

Oh yeah, Southie and I like Trapilo and Walters has him ranked 27 of 28. Biggest problem? Needs to 'bulk' up.
Every single player drafted is a crap shoot one never really knows. It could be injury, lower football IQ than assumed, not as talented as presumed. Its always a risk. I don't pay much attention to the combine, and only some to the reports. I like to look at how many years they were a starter, were they a team captain, and the level of competition they face. To me that tell more of the story than any numbers
 

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very single player drafted is a crap shoot one never really knows. It could be injury, lower football IQ than assumed, not as talented as presumed. Its always a risk. I don't pay much attention to the combine, and only some to the reports. I like to look at how many years they were a starter, were they a team captain, and the level of competition they face. To me that tell more of the story than any numbers
Can't argue with that.

I do watch the combine for the three cone drill.

Don't care about the 40, vertical leap or bench press.
 

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Can't argue with that.

I do watch the combine for the three cone drill.

Don't care about the 40, vertical leap or bench press.
I like the bench press for RBs believe it or not.
The 40 is “important” for WRs but separation and good hands is more important.
Vertical leap is important for CBs
 

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And it will be the biggest head slap if he's a bust at LT.

Just read the clips of the 28 top LTs available for the draft. The compliments were excellent and the weakness analysis were brutal.
Half of the LTs are projected to be best at OG. Others are thought to be best at RT. Maybe six or seven are considered to be eventual starters. None were considered to be eventual pro bowlers.

Again..........................it's all opinions of people considered to be experts.

Oh yeah, Southie and I like Trapilo and Walters has him ranked 27 of 28. Biggest problem? Needs to 'bulk' up.
If the draft is loaded with RT's...maybe Maye can throw leftie?
 
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