Outhouse to Penthouse.

[UnBiasedPerspective]

You wish I was a chick so you would have someone to whiteknight.

All you need is the surgery, go for it. Make yourself happy.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

Or didn't care. If this thread is bothering you, maybe you should work on your attention span.

Sarcasm is confused.

 

[Arizona_Sting]

<makes note to call Saul tomorrow...>

That awkward moment when Saul is my lawyer too...

 

[UnBiasedPerspective]

Sarcasm is confused.

No problem, you seemed to have an issue you needed dealt with.

 

[Macho Row]

No problem, you seemed to have an issue you needed dealt with.

 

[dyhard]

lol Macho, that picture is ginormous

 

[UnBiasedPerspective]

And here I was trying to be nice and hold out an olive branch!

 

[UnBiasedPerspective]

lol Macho, that picture is ginormous

And it gets bigger when you quote it

 

[Macho Row]

lol Macho, that picture is ginormous

Yeah..... There's probably a way to resize it, just haven't looked in to that yet.

Ok that's a lie, looks like you can do it how you do in ms paint and stuff, I was just too lazy.

 

[DISPLACEDTEXAN]

so are we going to stay on this thread thru the new week or are we moving over to the MWC thread under the CFB?

 

[Macho Row]

so are we going to stay on this thread thru the new week or are we moving over to the MWC thread under the CFB?

I believe the plan was a new one. I don't know. I thought we were gonna move it to the more general random areas. Like I said though, I don't know.

 

[Otis B. Driftwood]

That awkward moment when Saul is my lawyer too...

Cool - we can sell meth together then.

 

[DISPLACEDTEXAN]

I believe the plan was a new one. I don't know. I thought we were gonna move it to the more general random areas. Like I said though, I don't know.

from what I understand the IPFW sub-forum is just for random posts, sounds like it would be the place for us for awhile. although I have now decided that AZ is just bored and wanting to stir it up a little

 

[DISPLACEDTEXAN]

Cool - we can sell meth together then.

you could sell Kroc on the side, although I understand you'll have an even bigger turnover in clients since apparently that stuff wears them out even faster than meth

 

[Flambo Gus]

from what I understand the IPFW sub-forum is just for random posts, sounds like it would be the place for us for awhile. although I have now decided that AZ is just bored and wanting to stir it up a little

Shhhh!

UBP has him on the ropes, he'll tell you so himself...

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Morning

Glad to see some peeps up and posting. Flambo, did ya get a chance to see my response many pages ago to you?

 

[Flambo Gus]

Morning

Glad to see some peeps up and posting. Flambo, did ya get a chance to see my response many pages ago to you?

I did. Its somewhere back there if you can find it.

 

[Flambo Gus]

Short answer: I don't know.

If you're looking for a long, complicated response, here it goes:

The etymology of the term is still debated. There are some that believe that Native Americans themselves were the first to use the term "Redskin" or "Red man". There are some that believe that the term "Redskin" was first used by whites as a derogatory term in reference to Native Americans. Even further, there are those who believe the term "Redskin" was used in reference to the scalps of Native Americans, which was turned into british agents for monetary rewards.

There's also an annoying sense of "we're the only ones that can use the term", prevalent in some Native Americans today, similar to Blacks and the "N-word".

That being the case, of the three Native American communities to use the nickname, here's an article that discusses the Wellpinit's decision:

Redskins controversy? High school with debated name just wants to be left alone | Local News | The Seattle Times

To use a few quotes from the article on the complexity of the situation:

“One thing that annoys me,” says John Teters, registrar for the school district, “is that we’re used as an excuse for this asinine process. You name it, Cleveland Indians, Washington Redskins, whenever those names come up, the school gets called. ‘If you guys can do it, why can’t we?’ We’re somehow used as a justification.”

...

“We don’t see it as a derogatory name. But if you ask a grandpa or grandma, they think of it differently,” says Brodie Ford, 17, who just graduated and is heading to nearby Whitworth University.
Ford says that in sports, when playing other schools, he didn’t hear “Redskins” used in a derogatory way.

...

“This country was founded on bounties. I grew up with my dad talking about the genocide of Indians,” says Chet Bluff, 53. “This should be in the history books.”
Bluff says she was taught that “Redskin” refers to the bloodied scalp that bounty hunters used to show proof of a kill.
She says she told a white co-worker who asked what the “Redskin” controversy was about:
“Imagine my husband, my dad, my brother and granddaughter being killed and skinned for $800. Her jaw dropped,” says Bluff.

...



Looking for consensus in the Native American community regarding the term "Redskins" is much like trying to find a consensus in the United States on any hot button topic. Some are pro, some are con, some don't care. That's hardly justification for not doing anything.

That there are 3 Native American communities proving to be the exception, doesn't mean the term is any less offensive.

Also, let's not talk about the entire movement across high school and college sports to remove Native American mascots, symbols, and nicknames. Let's just focus on those three Native American exceptions...

Here it is. Surprisingly easy to find.

 

[Flambo Gus]

Ahh... I misread. I though you were asking if I was able to respond, not if I read your response. No, I did not.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

Here it is. Surprisingly easy to find.

I was talking about my take on this to you, I'm searching but haven't found it yet, I'll post when I do.