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Newton was less than stellar.

As was Vick. Against a good defense, go figure...
 

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Newton was playing in a fucking monsoon.
 

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Vick broke his hand and left the game.

Facts and you don't get along.
 

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As long as Vick's broken hand wasn't a factor in the less than stellar stats he put up, it's a moot point.

I didn't expect you to get that though.
 

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As long as Vick's broken hand wasn't a factor in the less than stellar stats he put up, it's a moot point.

I didn't expect you to get that though.

You're a fucking moron, Rey. Proven wrong for like the 6th/7th time today already. Poor fella. Awwwww. Does it hurt? Does your vag hurt, Rey?
 

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As for Newton...you play the hand you're dealt. If you can't handle it, signal to the sideline to run the ball or take you out. Many QB's have had MUCH better games in much worse conditions. I expect more from a "top 10 QB".
 

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You're a fucking moron, Rey. Proven wrong for like the 6th/7th time today already. Poor fella. Awwwww. Does it hurt? Does your vag hurt, Rey?

You sure sound like you're winning this one.

LOL
 

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Only you would...

Redneck edumucation at work...
 

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The Falcons need to fire Bratkowski immediately.
 

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what's going on with Torrey Smith in Baltimore? pretty good first half...

if you put a legit deep threat on that offense they're the best team in the division
 

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Newton played an off-game, but didn't turn it over and got the win. You don't give the kid credit when he pads the stat sheet and loses, but don't give him credit when he takes care of the ball and wins? Your hatred is silly. Why not just admit that you didn't see him performing at this level this season and that you were wrong?
 

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Watch the highlights of the game. 3/4 of the Carolina game was in a fucking monsoon. Newton is a freak. Rey is an idiot.
 

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Newton played an off-game, but didn't turn it over and got the win. You don't give the kid credit when he pads the stat sheet and loses, but don't give him credit when he takes care of the ball and wins? Your hatred is silly. Why not just admit that you didn't see him performing at this level this season and that you were wrong?

In defense of Cam's 0-2 record despite his yards:

Just saying but LOL @ the people looking at his record as a reflection of HIS play. There are many stats that can be used to judge a QB. Team record is at the bottom of the list, if it's even there.

Team records are just that, TEAM records. While QB's are the biggest cog, they cannot do it alone (unless their name is Peyton Manning)...........

http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/cincinnati-bengals/45533-putting-400-yards-prospective-2.html

The only thing silly is your post.

Additionally, I've gone on record many times about what I think Cam's potential is. But of course you'd rather just throw out unsubstantiated claims. It serves your purpose better.

Have at it...

*Edit: p.s. the only people to blame for these type of threads are the people that felt like throwing Cam's play in everyone's face after ONE game. But now you're on the defense...funny how that works.
 
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I'm not being defensive at all...... The kid won a game at the end - A nice sign for a rookie. He played a game in weather that Maurice Jones Drew described as a 'hurricane' and didn't make any mistakes. When the weather cleared and he had an opportunity to take the game, he competed 4 straight passes, put his team in scoring position and won the game.

You claim his potential is Vick. I think he is nothing like Vick.

Through 3 games he has passed for over 1000 yards and has a qb rating of over 85. I was a big supporter of Cam and I didn't think he'd perform that well in his first 3 games. He's been a very good quarterback in his first 3 games - It can't be denied.
 

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In defense of Cam's 0-2 record despite his yards:



http://www.sportshoopla.com/forums/cincinnati-bengals/45533-putting-400-yards-prospective-2.html

The only thing silly is your post.

Additionally, I've gone on record many times about what I think Cam's potential is. But of course you'd rather just throw out unsubstantiated claims. It serves your purpose better.

Have at it...

*Edit: p.s. the only people to blame for these type of threads are the people that felt like throwing Cam's play in everyone's face after ONE game. But now you're on the defense...funny how that works.



And let's be honest - On the old ESPN boards there were a thousand posts claiming that Cam Newton couldn't play QB in the NFL. I'm not talking about anything you posted - You've mostly stated that he would be a Vick at best. But, there were many folks that said the kid couldn't play at all and that he would be Akili Smith or JeMarcus Russel. So if you want to blame everyone for posting after ONE game, why not blame the folks that claimed he couldn't play after ANY games.
 

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I'm not being defensive at all...... The kid won a game at the end - A nice sign for a rookie. He played a game in weather that Maurice Jones Drew described as a 'hurricane' and didn't make any mistakes. When the weather cleared and he had an opportunity to take the game, he competed 4 straight passes, put his team in scoring position and won the game.

You claim his potential is Vick. I think he is nothing like Vick.

Through 3 games he has passed for over 1000 yards and has a qb rating of over 85. I was a big supporter of Cam and I didn't think he'd perform that well in his first 3 games. He's been a very good quarterback in his first 3 games - It can't be denied.

1) Having a good 3rd game can absolutely be "denied".
2) As for the whole blame game. Before the season everyone gives their opinion about everyone. This shouldn't be a surprise nor unexpected. However, after the season started, only a few (at least one) prematurely tried to throw their opinion in everyone's face instead of allowing everything to play out.
 

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cincygrad is right about that. When Luck was in the draft, several folks where saying "no cam newton, cam newton equals akili smith", after Luck decided to stay in school, all the sudden the draft press starts talking about how good Cam Newton is.

I never understood why the draft press changed their mind about him, but I don't watch much college football, so admittedly, I fail as a scout. Cam is doing good. He whipped Gabbert's ass yesterday in a monsoon. that's a pretty good stat.
 

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Cam Newton has a quarterback rating of over 85 and has already thrown for over 1000 yards on a team that last season was completely inept on offense. Through 3 games (a very small sample) he has much better stats than other recent quarterbacks taken first overall. None of this is speculation - It is fact.

I'm just shocked that he has been able to call plays and read defense - Everyone was so sure that this simply wasn't possible.
 
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