OT: This is why we feel the way we do about Dallas

[elocomotive]

no idea just pasted what is in the article.....i would assume most/all of it

Yeah, it's all from the bond - $219 million for 2 elementary schools, the stadium, and a performing arts center.

It's tax money, but it's local tax money they voted in favor of overwhelmingly.

 

[elocomotive]

I build it out of million dollar bills and then burn it every spring.

Lol.

 

[Vadered]

If the local community paid for it... hey, it's their money.

They apparently have a high school band with 800 students and the performing arts center also cost $60 million. The same bond also built 2 new elementary schools.

That's a bond of $120 million dollars (119 million, actually, but trust me, it's funnier to stick with the round number), levied on a population of about 90,000. We'll give them another 90,000 in surrounding areas because we are just super generous people. That's $120,000,000 divided by 180,000, which if my math is correct works out to be about $666 dollars a person. Not per taxpayer, per PERSON, so the actual amount per taxpayer is going to be much higher.

A: That's a hilarious number.

B: HOLY SHIT I would not want to be one of the 37% who voted against it.

On the other hand, I'd like to point out that according to the 2007 data, the median income for a household was $93,392, so you know, they can probably afford a little pork.

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

last sentence of the first paragraph pretty much sums it all up in a neat, clean package.

"This is Texas football"


/article

They take HS football pretty damn serious in Texas.

 

[SLY]

They should make kids from poor neighborhoods do groundskeeping and work in concessions in exchange for a good K-12 education.

lmfao

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

My wife used to teach at a high school around here.

On her first day of class one year she had 45+ students in a classroom with about 25 desks.

She had no textbooks. At all. Not old. Not crappy. Not not enough. None.

Half the bleachers at the school were roped off by the building inspector because they were afraid they would collapse.

 

[wings-pens2166]

Believe me when I say I'm not one for the redistribution of wealth or the like, but having spent one year teaching in the Norfolk, VA public school sytem and seeing some of the schools there, and then hearing about this....

well, there is definitely a problem when a school can have something like this (even when paid for solely by the citizens of that community) for a football game and other kids have deal with schools like I saw in Norfolk or what sabrefan talks about above

 

[awaz]

last sentence of the first paragraph pretty much sums it all up in a neat, clean package.

"This is Texas football"


/article

They take HS football pretty damn serious in Texas.

i read somewhere that in a poll, HS football came out on top in terms of importance to texans.. this is a state with the University of Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, and the Dallas Cowboys.

i cant even imagine.

 

[wings-pens2166]

so yeah....FUCK DALLAS!!!!



gee, I feel better for some reason &

 

[DChero]

I'm so glad that I don't live in that area. I thought what I pay in taxes was high. $666 was just one element of their State/Local taxes... not even including school tax, federal, etc.

 

[TOX1]

lol I love it when folks talk about how others should invest/spend their hard earned money.

 

[DChero]

lol I love it when folks talk about how others should invest/spend their hard earned money.

I'm sure that a lot of people were unhappy with it, according to the vote. :hdn:

 

[forty_three]

I've seen some discussion on this in a few places, which is how I came to know about it. And I hear a lot of people saying "the people paid for it and approved it overwhelmingly".

True. And I don't know the answer, but I do have to wonder how "overwhelmingly" the citizenry would have approved any funding without the stadium. Would they have approved just two elementary schools and an arts center? Or JUST the arts center? What about other previous measures without improvements to the football field. Do they ever get passed? It's Texas. You have to make an assumption.

One thing I like about living here in Ohio is the schools are all funded like this, so you can see where the money comes from and what the schools are doing. What I don't like is the fucked up priorities of some of my neighbors. Three years ago, there was a Levy (like the bond measure in this story) to replace the football fields with artificial turf for all three high school. Passed unanimously. The next year, they wanted to upgrade the technology in the classrooms and labs, extend the Science, Technology and Math programs, and upgrade the School District's servers to accommodate paperless report cards. It failed the first time and the majority of the opposition called the upgrades "frivolous".

Probably the same derpy derps who felt we needed Astro Turf. So, what I like is the schools went ahead and cut Extra Curricular funding to fund the server upgrades. The football parents went nuts that there weren't going to be Chartered buses for football and no cheerleaders and the measure passed unanimously the next time.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

I've seen some discussion on this in a few places, which is how I came to know about it. And I hear a lot of people saying "the people paid for it and approved it overwhelmingly".

True. And I don't know the answer, but I do have to wonder how "overwhelmingly" the citizenry would have approved any funding without the stadium. Would they have approved just two elementary schools and an arts center? Or JUST the arts center? What about other previous measures without improvements to the football field. Do they ever get passed? It's Texas. You have to make an assumption.

One thing I like about living here in Ohio is the schools are all funded like this, so you can see where the money comes from and what the schools are doing. What I don't like is the fucked up priorities of some of my neighbors. Three years ago, there was a Levy (like the bond measure in this story) to replace the football fields with artificial turf for all three high school. Passed unanimously. The next year, they wanted to upgrade the technology in the classrooms and labs, extend the Science, Technology and Math programs, and upgrade the School District's servers to accommodate paperless report cards. It failed the first time and the majority of the opposition called the upgrades "frivolous".

Probably the same derpy derps who felt we needed Astro Turf. So, what I like is the schools went ahead and cut Extra Curricular funding to fund the server upgrades. The football parents went nuts that there weren't going to be Chartered buses for football and no cheerleaders and the measure passed unanimously the next time.

Love it. They pass bond measures in Charlotte all the time. The last one had a specific list of projects it was supposed to fund (including fixing the aforementioned bleachers at my wife's former school). After the measure passed, all the money went elsewhere and they said that the list they provided before the vote were examples of the types of projects they would fund, not a specific listing.

I'm glad I don't have kids because the schools down here are a joke.

 

[TOX1]

I'm sure that a lot of people were unhappy with it, according to the vote. :hdn:

Well sure. Of course. It's a democracy.

63 percent ruled in favor, no? That leaves quite a few pissed off, but...again....it is what it is. Majority rule my friend. Same as it's always been. Same as it always will be.

 

[SLY]

Believe me when I say I'm not one for the redistribution of wealth or the like, but having spent one year teaching in the Norfolk, VA public school sytem and seeing some of the schools there, and then hearing about this....

well, there is definitely a problem when a school can have something like this (even when paid for solely by the citizens of that community) for a football game and other kids have deal with schools like I saw in Norfolk or what sabrefan talks about above

Nope. Nothing wrong at all.

 

[mattola]

you guys are going to fucking roast me.....

I hate the Stars. Fuck Dallas.
I Love the Cowboys..... yepp.... there you fucking have it.... I love the Dallas Cowboys. Have since I was a kid and my dad made me watch some of the shittiest season ever, then we got the bowls....... it was because my dad as soon as I was old enough put a cowboys bib on me and made me watch whenever we could which was not often.....

 

[SLY]

FUCK DALLAS! Cowboys, Stars and all.

 

[dash]

They do have some of the best looking ice girls in the league, however...

 

[mattola]

seems like a good place to put a gratuitous shot of the Miami Dolphins Cheerleaders