OT - I'm bored

[Darkstone42]

We now go to Rob Dibble for the latest regarding the Nats phenom:

"I'm not a doctor, and I haven't read the MRI yet, but I'm pretty sure he's gonna come back fine," Dibble said as the "First Pitch" discussion began. "And for me, if you can throw the next day, then you probably could have continued out there on the baseball field. So are they a little bit overcautious at this point? Maybe. But he's a $15 million investment. I absolutely can't blame them for taking him out.

"But here's the thing. If this was happening to this kid in college and you knew that, then you also knew that he can pitch through this stuff. So a little bit is, ok, let's see this kid pitch through it.


"I also look at this from the player's standpoint, that this is your job. This is what you do. You're never going to be 100 percent healthy, feel perfect. So you have to take accountability that you're gonna throw sometimes, your arm's gonna hurt. You're gonna be out there on the mound sometimes, the mound is gonna be terrible and the dirt is gonna be a little loose and it might not be so great. You can't constantly be complaining over every little thing.

"So for me, a little bit has to be put back on Strasbug here. Ok, you throw a pitch, it bothers your arm, and you immediately call out the manager and the trainer? Suck it up, kid. This is your profession. You chose to be a baseball player. You can't have the cavalry come in and save your butt every time you feel a little stiff shoulder, sore elbow.

"I mean, excuse me. There's guys I played with that had screws holding their elbows together. Chris Sabo played two weeks on a broken ankle. I put a steel plate in my wrist so I could be back in five weeks instead of three months. So, this is your choice. You can either suck it up and be a man at 22 making $2 million a year [with] a $15 million contract, or every time you get an ache and pain you can go out of the game and say I'm gonna let down the other 24 guys right here and possibly end up forfeiting the game."

This was before the Nats said anything official about Strasburg's follow-up MRI, or about putting him on the disabled list. This was also before they clarified Mike Rizzo's initial comments, which had incorrectly indicated that Strasburg threw on Sunday morning. And Dibble attributed part of the problem to the malady of the pampered and entitled "modern-day player." Still, Rob Dibble would clearly like Stephen Strasburg to fight through whatever arm pain he's experiencing.

"What Mike Rizzo and Jim Riggleman do, that's totally different," Dibble said. "They have to think of the long-term ramifications of what they're doing right now with this kid's career. As far as this kid? Stop crying, go out there and pitch. Period.

"There's so many [other] guys....Josh Willingham, who is gonna have surgery on his left knee, was playing with torn cartilage in his knee, could barely run around the bases. This is the simple answer to this, you need to know the difference between pain and injury. When I was 12, my arm hurt. When I was in my teens and I would throw and walk off the mound when I was a starter, my arm would throb. I couldn't even hold a glass of water. And you know what? I loved it.

"I was so sick, I loved it, 'cause I felt 'ok, I'm throwing hard enough to make my arm shake when I'm just standing there.' So I was a totally different animal than I think has been created here with Strasburg, where now you're telling this kid as soon as you feel any arm pain, call us and we'll come help you. Please.

"This is the major leagues. This is not college any more. You're not on scholarship. You're being paid to do the job and guys depend on you, and I think it's unfortunate that the Nationals and the team are in a situation here where this kid now, he feels any kind of arm pain, he's gonna call you out? That's scary to me."

And like I said, the discussion ended with Dibble lamenting the nature of the modern player.

"You give these guys $15 million bucks, please," he said. "Get your butt out there and play every fifth day."

Nice call, Rob

If Strasburg was 27 or 28, I would probably agree with Dibble on this, but he's 22 and has probably been instructed by the organization to report any arm trouble, no matter how mild, as soon as it arises. That's how they're protecting their investment, and he's being paid by them, so if they're telling him to be careful with his arm then he should be careful with his arm. It's not like the Nationals are in the Pennant race or anything. He's on a strict pitch and inning count as it is, and exceeding those could be hugely detrimental to his career in the long-run (see Cole Hamels). To be honest, I think the organization is actually looking for an excuse to shut him down for the season so that they can gradually stretch out his arm.

 

[Automattic]

Can't the kid just pitch with his other arm? You know, like going to your backhand...

 

[ritari330]

I'm in need of a nap now......

 

[Darkstone42]

I'm in need of a nap now......

Then get off your computer and sleep!

 

[SLY]

I'm in need of a nap now......

Yea, what Darkstone said!

 

[ritari330]

yeah, I should do that.....

Catch you all later tonight/tomorrow

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Can't the kid just pitch with his other arm? You know, like going to your backhand...

youre making me remember a story that you and others probably dont give a lick about but i'll share anyways (lol)

when I was 17, my baseball team played in a tournament against a team from Seattle ... their whole team was between 5'6 and 5'9 (but stocky) with the exception of the 1st baseman who was 6'5 probably 250 and the pitcher who was randy johnson like, maybe 6'8 but rail thin and looked like the kid with the bowl cut and glasses on that tv show the wonder years

He was warming up and throwing heat seriously popping the glove before the game and when he takes the mound and throws his warmups, he's suddenly throwing leftie just as fast ... wtf !!!

we ended up brawling the team which was really fun

 

[Automattic]

youre making me remember a story that you and others probably dont give a lick about but i'll share anyways (lol)

when I was 17, my baseball team played in a tournament against a team from Seattle ... their whole team was between 5'6 and 5'9 (but stocky) with the exception of the 1st baseman who was 6'5 probably 250 and the pitcher who was randy johnson like, maybe 6'8 but rail thin and looked like the kid with the bowl cut and glasses on that tv show the wonder years

He was warming up and throwing heat seriously popping the glove before the game and when he takes the mound and throws his warmups, he's suddenly throwing leftie just as fast ... wtf !!!

we ended up brawling the team which was really fun

Lol A 6'8" version of Paul?! (pretty sure that was his name)

That alone makes this story worth sharing!

 

[Comeds]

youre making me remember a story that you and others probably dont give a lick about but i'll share anyways (lol)

when I was 17, my baseball team played in a tournament against a team from Seattle ... their whole team was between 5'6 and 5'9 (but stocky) with the exception of the 1st baseman who was 6'5 probably 250 and the pitcher who was randy johnson like, maybe 6'8 but rail thin and looked like the kid with the bowl cut and glasses on that tv show the wonder years

He was warming up and throwing heat seriously popping the glove before the game and when he takes the mound and throws his warmups, he's suddenly throwing leftie just as fast ... wtf !!!

we ended up brawling the team which was really fun

Funny!

 

[Comeds]

What happened to the least bang thread? I created a post only to lose it all.

 

[dare2be]

it's back...there were two of them, but instead of one being marked as a duplicate, they both were.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

Funny!

since i got positive feedback i will finish the story and tell you about the brawl

Paul from Wonder Years was no-hitting us ... our starting pitcher got on 1st base with a walk in the 5th ... 2 quick outs later our 2nd basemen and leadoff hitter comes up and grounds to second who soft tosses to second for the fielders choice and and our pitcher barrels into the shortstop. Shortstop then pushes down on our pitchers head with his forearm as they hit the ground ... words exchanged ... Pitcher gets up, on his way up grabs a hand full of dirt and as hes passing their second baseman as they both head to the dugouts throws it in his face ... punching time

their monster 1st baseman sprints towards the 2 on the ground with his elbow cocked and ready to throw a punch down ... our second baseman locks elbows to try and stop the punch from being thrown and he gets helicoptered/spun through the air ... benches empty

I was catching and because it was end of inning had half of my second shinguard still undone ... as I ran out with the rest of the guys to join the brawl ... i tripped

not my finest moment and i guess i cant really say "we" brawled

 

[BOSSMANPC]

Go hit the Billy Guerin topic on the main board

 

[Comeds]

since i got positive feedback i will finish the story and tell you about the brawl

Paul from Wonder Years was no-hitting us ... our starting pitcher got on 1st base with a walk in the 5th ... 2 quick outs later our 2nd basemen and leadoff hitter comes up and grounds to second who soft tosses to second for the fielders choice and and our pitcher barrels into the shortstop. Shortstop then pushes down on our pitchers head with his forearm as they hit the ground ... words exchanged ... Pitcher gets up, on his way up grabs a hand full of dirt and as hes passing their second baseman as they both head to the dugouts throws it in his face ... punching time

their monster 1st baseman sprints towards the 2 on the ground with his elbow cocked and ready to throw a punch down ... our second baseman locks elbows to try and stop the punch from being thrown and he gets helicoptered/spun through the air ... benches empty

I was catching and because it was end of inning had half of my second shinguard still undone ... as I ran out with the rest of the guys to join the brawl ... i tripped

not my finest moment and i guess i cant really say "we" brawled

I'd give you rep but I cannot right now. Throwing dirt in the face, hilarious.

 

[jstewismybastardson]

I'd give you rep but I cannot right now. Throwing dirt in the face, hilarious.

tournament was in a realtively small town on vancouver island ... when the game resumed, i was back in catching and I could hear an old grandma in the stands say "those city kids sure do swear alot"

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

What happened to the least bang thread? I created a post only to lose it all.

The one that got deleted was titled "last" bang for your buck, so I mentioned something about Tijuana, 1987. Now its gone.:-(

 

[dare2be]

The one that got deleted was titled "last" bang for your buck, so I mentioned something about Tijuana, 1987. Now its gone.:-(

np, rep still earned...

 

[BOSSMANPC]

The one that got deleted was titled "last" bang for your buck, so I mentioned something about Tijuana, 1987. Now its gone.:-(

The thread starter asked that it be deleted because it was a duplicate topic.

 

[Comeds]

The one that got deleted was titled "last" bang for your buck, so I mentioned something about Tijuana, 1987. Now its gone.:-(

Yeah my original post had a comment about Jessica Biel in it.

 

[Bizzle McDizzle]

The one that got deleted was titled "last" bang for your buck, so I mentioned something about Tijuana, 1987. Now its gone.:-(

np, rep still earned...

She said the exact same thing.

...except in Spanish.