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[skinsdad62]

If he was added after the fact due to injury or Superbowl commitment, he was an afterthought. My only point is that you offer up his PB appearances as an example of why he is elite. So its only fair that we understand why he was really in the PB. Only once has he made it straight up over his peers. This doesn't mean that I don't think he isn't a very good OLB, just not an elite. I can name 6 or 8 OLBs that I believe are better than him just off the top of my head: Von Miller, Aldon Smith (not withstanding his latest off field issue), Feeney, Mathis, Matthews, Abraham, Tamba Hali, Ware. I'm sure I've forgotten someone obvious.......ooh yeah....Kerrigan.

if 3 pbs , doesnt get you in the conversation then what does ? i doubt if he gets 13 -15 sacks that all of sudden that changes anyones opinion because then we will get "now do it again "

i have put up numerous things about rak . the fact is the day he walked into redskins park he was our best pass rusher . his hits hurries , sacks , pressures are amongst the best in the NFL despite having over 100 fewer pass rush attempts then the elite guys

he is our best defensive player and just because our defense stinks is a reflection of the total defense not just him

and i would question the ancient ware freeney abraham and i think kerrigan is his equal

 

[j_y19]

if 3 pbs , doesnt get you in the conversation then what does ? i doubt if he gets 13 -15 sacks that all of sudden that changes anyones opinion because then we will get "now do it again "

i have put up numerous things about rak . the fact is the day he walked into redskins park he was our best pass rusher . his hits hurries , sacks , pressures are amongst the best in the NFL despite having over 100 fewer pass rush attempts then the elite guys

he is our best defensive player and just because our defense stinks is a reflection of the total defense not just him

and i would question the ancient ware freeney abraham and i think kerrigan is his equal

I agree he is our best pass rusher and he should be in the conversation. I just disagree that he is prominent in the conversation at this point. Especially because of the point you made earlier, that the measuring stick includes more than pass rushing. This is also why I don't think he has been our best defender. He is a one trick pony who has, to date, just been better than average at that trick. Up until this last year, fletch was our best defender without question. Last year it was a toss up between hall, Kerrigan and Rak. They each contributed in their own way but in my heart, I think Kerrigan and hall made more of a consistent impact in multiple ways.

 

[skinsdad62]

I agree he is our best pass rusher and he should be in the conversation. I just disagree that he is prominent in the conversation at this point. Especially because of the point you made earlier, that the measuring stick includes more than pass rushing. This is also why I don't think he has been our best defender. He is a one trick pony who has, to date, just been better than average at that trick. Up until this last year, fletch was our best defender without question. Last year it was a toss up between hall, Kerrigan and Rak. They each contributed in their own way but in my heart, I think Kerrigan and hall made more of a consistent impact in multiple ways.

i think kerrigans play tailed way off last season as it went on do to injury , and hall is hit and miss

rak opens up everything for everyone else

for the last 2 seasons LBF has tailed off dramatically