Orakpo

[Krusheasy]

well never is outlandish but pulling a non factor jenkins or golston and inserting some coverage people would be a way

considering the cap & injury situation that is kind of an unrealistic expectation. Have to play the cards you're dealt.

Rak is dropping into coverage 2 out of 10 plays ... i do not think that is an unreasonable amount. He just needs to make the most of the 8 out of 10 plays he does rush the passer.

 

[skinsdad62]

Previewing Brian Orakpo's Contract Extension | Fanspeak Washington Redskins Blog

this is the kind of deal we are looking at with Rak

i like how its structured .

 

[gkekoa]

Previewing Brian Orakpo's Contract Extension | Fanspeak Washington Redskins Blog

this is the kind of deal we are looking at with Rak

i like how its structured .

I can live with this but I think it's just a little high and I mean just a little. I'd give him this if that is what it took.

One thing I can't stand about this article is the statement about selling himself as a 4-3 DE and moving back as a top notch one. He has never played DE in the NFL.

 

[deanpet21]

So he averages 8.9 mil a year for the next 5 years. That is insane. Of course Rak is going to sign that deal.

 

[skinsdad62]

So he averages 8.9 mil a year for the next 5 years. That is insane. Of course Rak is going to sign that deal.

can you read ? its voidable after 3 years

 

[deanpet21]

I didn't see that but that is still 7 to 8 mil guaranteed a year for the first 3 years. Then jumps to 10 to 11 mil in years 4 and 5. Of course he signs this deal. Do I have this right?

 

[j_y19]

He is worth 7-8m. Try and replace him for less. Who you gonna get? If he isn't worth it after year 3, you let him go. This would be a good deal for us. Not so sure I agree that Rak will think this is a good deal.

 

[skinsdad62]

I didn't see that but that is still 7 to 8 mil guaranteed a year for the first 3 years. Then jumps to 10 to 11 mil in years 4 and 5. Of course he signs this deal. Do I have this right?

yes the deal is front loaded , and if Rak starts to slide in the final years he can be let go with little cap ramifications

i cant see how you get a guy with equal ability for less

 

[deanpet21]

I cant see any other team in the league guaranteeing Rak 7-8 mil a season for 3 seasons. We would be bidding against ourselves. He said he wants to stay here maybe he takes a discount. I think 6 mil a year is very fair for him not 8.

 

[deanpet21]

Guaranteeing him 8 mil a season for three years means that he is a top 5 player at his position. Do we agree? He is not a top 5 player at his position. Even 6 mil a year is generous. Plus he is not even top 10 in sacks this year.

 

[skinsdad62]

Guaranteeing him 8 mil a season for three years means that he is a top 5 player at his position. Do we agree? He is not a top 5 player at his position. Even 6 mil a year is generous. Plus he is not even top 10 in sacks this year.

the franchise tag for an OLB is 10 mil . that is the top 5 salaried guys . 8 mil a season is 2 mil less then a TOP 5 guy

 

[deanpet21]

Ok. Is he a top 10 player at his position? No.

 

[j_y19]

He's close if not in it. This proposal doesn't pay him as an elite, but as a very good.

 

[skinsdad62]

the franchise tag for an OLB is 10 mil . that is the top 5 salaried guys . 8 mil a season is 2 mil less then a TOP 5 guy

Rak has one sacks less then JJ watt the reigning DPOY who is currently 9th in sacks and he is 1.5 sacks away from jumping to 7th

is he a top 10 OLB ? i would say yes he is he is a 2x pro bowler and an alternate in another in 5 years and is pushing one this season

 

[gkekoa]

He is very much a top 10 OLB.

 

[deanpet21]

maybe 9-14 range. But is he that much better than Kerrigan? I look at them and think they are the same player. Im anxious to see what he gets offered from another team. I believe we would be bidding against ourselves.

 

[gkekoa]

maybe 9-14 range. But is he that much better than Kerrigan? I look at them and think they are the same player. Im anxious to see what he gets offered from another team. I believe we would be bidding against ourselves.

Tell me who is better.

 

[skinsdad62]

i can see mathews , miller , suggs , briggs (?) Hali(?) dummerville (?) brooks houston that is 8 with 5 questioable or on par with Rak

there i will do the work for you dean

 

[j_y19]

i can see mathews , miller , suggs , briggs (?) Hali(?) dummerville (?) brooks houston that is 8 with 5 questioable or on par with Rak

there i will do the work for you dean

a few more....mathis, houston (equal), and aldon smith (equal)

 

[gkekoa]

i can see mathews , miller , suggs , briggs (?) Hali(?) dummerville (?) brooks houston that is 8 with 5 questioable or on par with Rak

there i will do the work for you dean

Unquestionably better: Robert Mathis, Justin Houston, Aldon Smith (unless he gets suspended for a year), Von Miller (unless he gets suspended for a year), Clay Matthews (when healthy and that's barely) and Tamba Hali


On par: Elvis Dumervil, Terrell Suggs, Ahmad Brooks


You can't count OLBs in a 4-3 because it's a totally different position. No matter how you count it...RAK is top ten.