OK it's weird right?

[msgkings322]

Hope these guys sign soon. Really doesn't look good when 2 top players are still looking for new teams on Jan.21.

Now February 1

 

[calsnowskier]

Now February 1

And the only real FAs left are the two monsters who are playing chicken with each other. I think this is on them, not the teams.

 

[SteelersPride]

The market is finally correcting itself. These guys asking for $300M+ is insane.

This

 

[SteelersPride]

Baseball players make way too much anyways go on strike

 

[msgkings322]

And the only real FAs left are the two monsters who are playing chicken with each other. I think this is on them, not the teams.

Them, and of course the devil himself, Scotty B

 

[calsnowskier]

Them, and of course the devil himself, Scotty B

Right.

So all this talk of the teams colluding against the players is total blither by people who know nothing of the situation (as opposed to me, who is obviously a total expert on the situation).

 

[DragonfromTO]

And the only real FAs left are the two monsters who are playing chicken with each other. I think this is on them, not the teams.

Keuchel and Kimbrel's kids still don't know where they are gonna go to school either, I think that they count.

 

[JohnU]

If the 'other' players aren't signing because they are waiting on Boras to act, it's kind of stupid. The established value for Keuchel should have zero impact on what Machado is going to get. If Keuchel is waiting, it is because most upgrading teams no longer need the guy. Houston won't need him either. Welcome to Oakland, big fella.

 

[molsaniceman]

Keuchel and Kimbrel's kids still don't know where they are gonna go to school either, I think that they count.

moose is still out there does he screw himself again

 

[Chewbaccer]

Also, Harper turned down a 300 million dollar contract. If he has to settle for less, he can blame himself and his agent.

 

[wazzu31]

It isn’t collusion, it’s FO’s finally being filled with guys who realize huge long term contracts destroy franchises unless you decide to spend top 5 in payroll for a decade. Mike Trout is the only guy any FO will dish out an ARod type of a potential franchise killer contract.

 

[navamind]

I think a good chunk of it is agents (i.e. Boras) misreading the market.

 

[msgkings322]

I think a good chunk of it is agents (i.e. Boras) misreading the market.

Evidently so, yep

 

[JohnU]

The owners can afford to spend a lot more than they do, but the cost to the consumer is rising out of exponential value. Naturally we don't care how much the advertising costs, but the cost of tickets doesn't go down with a new TV contract. If you're silly enough to buy team gear, that's your problem.

The problem to me is that all this income is spent at the big-league level and guys in the low minors are splitting the cost of a box of fries on the McDonald's Value Meal.

 

[wazzu31]

The owners can afford to spend a lot more than they do, but the cost to the consumer is rising out of exponential value. Naturally we don't care how much the advertising costs, but the cost of tickets doesn't go down with a new TV contract. If you're silly enough to buy team gear, that's your problem.

The problem to me is that all this income is spent at the big-league level and guys in the low minors are splitting the cost of a box of fries on the McDonald's Value Meal.

The owners can spend more money but hiring GM’s who look at a roster different will always make more money for their owner. Buying a FA for a short term deal still pays off more than what the Rangers or Yankees got for ARod.

 

[Chewbaccer]

Again, when you turn down a 300 million dollar contract, any claims of collusion are out the window, and you can thank yourself and your greedy agent for costing yourself and your family millions.

 

[PolarVortex]

Collision (Collusion?) course with another work-stoppage.

Yeah. Current CBA was signed in 2017 and runs through 2021. The market was stale last winter too so it's basically gone stale since the latest CBA went into effect. The MLBPA is going to negotiate a lot tougher after the current CBA expires. My guess is they will want the rules concerning qualifying offers re-negotiated to where a team will not lose a draft pick if they sign an FA who turned down a QO. I'm expecting a strike and a lockout. It will be the first one in 27 years.

Yeah, I know, a lot acronyms in there. What can I say, I like to cut corners.

 

[Cyder]

The market is finally correcting itself. These guys asking for $300M+ is insane.

I agree. Almost none of those monster deals work out for the teams so they've learned. Plus, a lot more assets are going to middle relievers now that starters rarely get by the 6th inning.

 

[SeattleCoug]

The market is finally correcting itself. These guys asking for $300M+ is insane.

I'm hoping so. Thought something similar last year and then Darvishs contract still happened in February. I hope its truly different this time.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

This shit with Harper and Machado's contracts. This isn't a good thing.

Just came here to post this

Probably going to see deflation in big contracts. They really should cap the length to protect teams against themselves.