Nikola Jokić/Shai Gilgeous-Alexander comparison

[thunderc]

Generating points is more than one stat; scoring, assists, even rebounds (esp. offensive).

Plus there are 2 ends on a court

 

[thunderc]

Something else for the stats people. With SGA on the floor the Thunder are +907. No one else is above +543.

 

[Old Sweater]

Yeah, every stat has flaws but they’re not as flawed as opinions that include favoritism or hate. The same math is ran on every player, then compared to league average that accounts for every point scored. At least you have a number to look at, or break down to per game or 48min for a sorted list.

Bill Russell leads in career defensive win shares.

Rank	Player	DWS
1.	Bill Russell*	133.64
2.	Tim Duncan*	106.34
3.	Kareem Abdul-Jabbar*	94.49
4.	Hakeem Olajuwon*	94.47
5.	Wilt Chamberlain*	93.92
6.	Karl Malone*	92.41
7.	Kevin Garnett*	91.48
8.	Elvin Hayes*	83.65
9.	LeBron James	83.47
10.	Patrick Ewing*	81.42
11.	David Robinson*	80.14
12.	Dwight Howard	76.17
13.	Jason Kidd*	75.14
14.	John Havlicek*	74.09
15.	Robert Parish*	72.98
16.	Ben Wallace*	70.58
17.	Dikembe Mutombo*	68.53
18.	Scottie Pippen*	67.29
19.	Shaquille ONeal*	66.36

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Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 4/2/2025.

 

[Old Sweater]

There is no wrong with picking SGA or Jokić for MVP using metrics.

 

[Old Sweater]

2024-25 NBA MVP Award Tracker

The NBA MVP Award Tracker ranks candidates based on a model built using previous voting results. Players must have played in at least 70% of the league-wide average for team games to qualify. Players who are not currently on pace to play in 65 games are in italics. Players who cannot reach 65 games played are excluded.

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Rk	Player	Team	W	L	W/L%	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS		Prob%
1	Nikola Jokic	DEN	47	29	.618	65	65	36.7	11.3	19.6	.575	2.0	4.7	.416	9.3	14.9	.625	.625	5.3	6.6	.803	2.9	9.9	12.8	10.2	1.8	0.7	3.3	2.3	29.7		56.2%
2	Shai Gilgeous-Alexander	OKC	63	12	.840	72	72	34.2	11.3	21.7	.522	2.1	5.7	.375	9.2	16.0	.574	.571	8.1	8.9	.901	0.9	4.1	5.0	6.4	1.7	1.0	2.5	2.2	32.8		36.9%

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Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 4/3/2025.

 

[thunderc]

2024-25 NBA MVP Award Tracker

The NBA MVP Award Tracker ranks candidates based on a model built using previous voting results. Players must have played in at least 70% of the league-wide average for team games to qualify. Players who are not currently on pace to play in 65 games are in italics. Players who cannot reach 65 games played are excluded.

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Rk	Player	Team	W	L	W/L%	G	GS	MP	FG	FGA	FG%	3P	3PA	3P%	2P	2PA	2P%	eFG%	FT	FTA	FT%	ORB	DRB	TRB	AST	STL	BLK	TOV	PF	PTS		Prob%
1	Nikola Jokic	DEN	47	29	.618	65	65	36.7	11.3	19.6	.575	2.0	4.7	.416	9.3	14.9	.625	.625	5.3	6.6	.803	2.9	9.9	12.8	10.2	1.8	0.7	3.3	2.3	29.7		56.2%
2	Shai Gilgeous-Alexander	OKC	63	12	.840	72	72	34.2	11.3	21.7	.522	2.1	5.7	.375	9.2	16.0	.574	.571	8.1	8.9	.901	0.9	4.1	5.0	6.4	1.7	1.0	2.5	2.2	32.8		36.9%

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Provided by Basketball-Reference.com: View Original Table
Generated 4/3/2025.

The final poll has spoken, it’s never wrong.