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NinerSickness

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Some random thoughts:

Cooper's been my 2nd favourite OL this seaosn; he plays smart, disciplined & fierce football. And he's athletic. Him doing C drills makes my heart sing. Too bad he won't be there at 31. :(

Justin Hunter's measurements are great. Height, arms length, hand size all great. I hope he doens't run too well because he's been one of my favourite 2nd round prospects.

I hope Keenan Allen drops pretty far for not running. 10' hands are great for him. He's not super fast, but he has geat ball skills & catches everything. He's one of those kinds of players like Tony Gonzales who is just a pain in the ass to cover.

Cordarrelle Patterson w/ disappointing height & arm length #'s. He's going to have to show that legendary speed to justify his top 15 talk. It can't be just good; he'll have to run close to 4.3 & have great agility #'s even if he wants to be taken that high.

Tyler Eifert VS Zach Ertz was going the way of Eifert in the measurements, and now it looks like Eifert is winning round 2 w/ the workouts. Who wants to come over to my side? Eifert is the better TE prospect.

I'm starting to think Barkevious Mingo looks like Manny Lawson 2.0; I've thought Montgomery was the better prospect all season.

I loved Lane Johnson's play this season, but I didn't know he had super-human speed too. With that kind of tape, arm length & speed, he could push Luke Joeckel & Warmack to be the #1 OL taken.
 
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Any word on the jump numbers from the TEs?

All I found is 35 1/2 inches for Eifert's vertical. Great jump by the way! With those arms & vertical, he's going to be a nasty red zone threat.
 
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Any word on the jump numbers from the TEs?

TE Vertical Jump

Chris Gragg - 37 1/2
Tyler Eifert - 35 1/2
Matt Furstenburg - 35 1/2
Dion Sims - 35
Jake Stoneburner - 34 1/2
Vance McDonald - 33 1/2
Chris Pantale - 33 1/2
Gavin Escobar - 32
Justice Cunningham - 31 1/2
Nick Kasa - 31 1/2
Mychal Rivera - 31
Levine Toilolo - 31
Zach Ertz - 30 1/2
Philip Lutzenkirchen - 30 1/2

Joseph Fauria - DNP
D.C. Jefferson - DNP
Travis Kelce - DNP
Ryan Otten - DNP
Jordan Reed - DNP
 
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TE Broad Jump

Chris Gragg - 125 - 10 feet, 5 inches
Tyler Eifert - 119 - 9 feet, 11 inches
Vance McDonald - 119 - 9 feet, 11 inches
Justice Cunningham - 116 - 9 feet, 8 inches
Jake Stoneburner - 116 - 9 feet, 8 inches
Matt Furstenburg - 115 - 9 feet, 7 inches
Gavin Escobar - 114 - 9 feet, 6 inches
Nick Kasa - 113 - 9 feet, 5 inches
Levine Toilolo - 113 - 9 feet, 5 inches
Philip Lutzenkirchen - 112 - 9 feet, 4 inches
Mychal Rivera - 112 - 9 feet, 4 inches
Dion Sims - 112 - 9 feet, 4 inches
Zach Ertz - 111 - 9 feet, 3 inches
Chris Pantale - 110 - 9 feet, 2 inches

NOTE: I see a number of sites that don't have the correct numbers for the broad jump for some reason. Be careful what site you look at for the time being.
 

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Thanks CP! You're the man as always...

I'm still taking passengers for the Tyler Eifert bangwagon. All I wanna know is... who's coming with me? (I'll spare you the Tom Cruz video since this is the combine thread).

By the way (randumb): Margus Hunt is 6'8 but only has 33 5/8 arms? That's not gonna help him.
 
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TE 3-cone drill

Tyler Eifert - 6.92
Gavin Escobar - 7.07
Zach Ertz - 7.08
Chris Gragg - 7.08
Vance McDonald - 7.08
Matt Furstenburg - 7.09
Levine Toilolo - 7.09
Justice Cunningham - 7.12
Jake Stoneburner - 7.12
Philip Lutzenkirchen - 7.15
Mychal Rivera - 7.17
Dion Sims - 7.36
Chris Pantale - 7.48

Joseph Fauria - DNP
D.C. Jefferson - DNP
Nick Kasa - DNP
Travis Kelce - DNP
Ryan Otten - DNP
Jordan Reed - DNP

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TE 20-yard Shuttle

Jake Stoneburner - 4.27
Gavin Escobar - 4.31
Tyler Eifert - 4.32
Matt Furstenburg - 4.35
Philip Lutzenkirchen - 4.35
Mychal Rivera - 4.43
Justice Cunningham - 4.45
Zach Ertz - 4.47
Chris Pantale - 4.50
Chris Gragg - 4.51
Dion Sims - 4.52
Vance McDonald - 4.53
Levine Toilolo - 4.57

Joseph Fauria - DNP
D.C. Jefferson - DNP
Nick Kasa - DNP
Travis Kelce - DNP
Ryan Otten - DNP
Jordan Reed - DNP

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TE 60-yard Shuttle

Jake Stoneburner - 11.50
Tyler Eifert - 11.52
Vance McDonald - 11.73
Matt Furstenburg - 11.76
Gavin Escobar - 11.86
Justice Cunningham - 11.88
Zach Ertz - 11.92
Levine Toilolo - 11.97
Dion Sims - 12.10
Chris Pantale - 12.22

Joseph Fauria - DNP
Chris Gragg - DNP
D.C. Jefferson - DNP
Nick Kasa - DNP
Travis Kelce - DNP
Philip Lutzenkirchen - DNP
Ryan Otten - DNP
Jordan Reed - DNP
Mychal Rivera - DNP
 

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What about stoneburner from tOSU? Didnt see a bunch of throws his way, but he seemed to always be targeted in the redzone. Didn't see the TE drills, so just goin off of numbers, but his numbers looked good.
 

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Shit that's one way to start off the WR 40's. Damn
 

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NFL Network Unofficial QB 40 times

Matt Barkley - DNR
Tyler Bray - 5.00 (1.72), 5.07 (1.73)
Colby Cameron - 4.83 (1.63), 4.66 (1.64)
Zac Dysert - DNR
Mike Glennon - 5.00 (1.83), 5.00 (1.80)
Marqueis Gray - 4.69 (1.59), 4.72 (1.62)
Landry Jones - 5.03 (1.69), 5.03 (1.70)
Collin Klein - 4.81 (1.64), 4.78 (1.67)

2nd group hasn't run yet

E.J. Manuel -
Ryan Nassib -
Sean Renfree -
Matt Scott
Geno Smith -
Brad Sorensen -
James Vandenberg -
Tyler Wilson -
 

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Well, first WR 40 of the day was run by Tavon Austin and he unofficially ran 4.25 (1.45 10), but I guarantee you it'll come out slower when NFLN has THEIR official time. Over 4.3 for sure in my estimation.
 

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I'm watching the QBs today, so I wanted to see if they had any footage of the 2005 combine and I found this.

Alex Smith on his experience at the Combine and the Combine in general, a little after he did it:

 
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NFL Network Unofficial WR 40 times

Keenan Allen - DNR
Tavon Austin - 4.25 (1.45), 4.31 (1.46)
Stedman Bailey - 4.57 (1.58), 4.50 (1.66)
Alan Bonner - 4.50 (1.63), 4.47 (1.63)
Josh Boyce - 4.38 (1.56), 4.38 (1.56)
Marlon Brown - DNR
Marcus Davis - 4.40 (1.63), 4.53
Aaron Dobson - DNR
Corey Fuller - 4.38 (1.49), 4.37 (1.53)
Tyrone Goard - 4.50 (1.57), 4.44 (1.53)
Marquise Goodwin - 4.25 (1.49), 4.29 (1.43)
Cobi Hamilton - 4.47 (1.63), 4.59 (1.43)
Chris Harper - 4.57 (1.55), 4.46 (1.57)
Mark Harrison - 4.47 (1.67), 4.47 (1.58)
DeAndre Hopkins - 4.50, 4.50 (1.59)
Justin Hunter - 4.44, 4.41 (1.54)
Darius Johnson - 4.56 (1.57), 4.50 (1.60)
Brandon Kaufman - 4.53 (1.59), 4.59 (1.67)
Tavarres King - 4.43 (1.59), 4.44 (1.58)
Alec Lemon - 4.56 (1.63), 4.62 (1.61)

2nd group of WRs haven't run yet. A number of these guys had some big discrepancies between their two times. A little surprised they weren't immediately asked to run a 3rd time after everybody ran two. Could still come I suppose but usually it's right after they finish the group.
 

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Also, one of my favorite players in DeAndre Hopkins had a noticeable stumble/hitch on his 2nd time but wasn't stopped for some reason. Turned out that he ran a pair of 4.5 flats, but I think his 2nd time could have been faster without that. Something to remember.
 

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Tavon Austin topped out at 24.2 MPH. I know I guaranteed his official time would definitely wind up being slower than his hand time, but that's still flyin'.
 

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No shit. He would get a speedin ticket in a school zone.
 

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Also, Justin Hunter dropped around 14 lbs in hopes of running a faster time. I guarantee alot of smart people will notice and remember that.
 

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Austin is definitely worth the 31st pick IMO. Hunter running a four/four is very good for him IMO. I just don't think he's worth a first round pick.
 

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Tyler Bray ran a five flat (1st attempt); 5.07 (second attempt)

Glennon also ran a five flat (1st attempt); five flat (second attempt)

Landry Jones is even slower at 5.03 secs
 
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