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Its funny how everyone becomes a ref and the rule book comes out on these instances. There is only 1 thing that really matters: has anyone in their lives seen the refs call a pass uncatchable that was so close to the receiver? 35 years of watching football and I've ever only seen the call when it is 20 yds over the head and usually out of bounds. That was way "too" catchable even though Gronk most likely had no play. No way that isn't called if it wasn't the last drive of the game. Panthers got a PI call on Pats DB (McCourty I think) on drive earlier and that pass was way more uncatchable- 10 ft over the recievers head.

Lions vs Browns a few years ago on almost same play. remember Stafford got hurt on the play? Ran down to goal line and telling no one to touch his shoulder and then threw a TD. This play was even more egregious than the one the other night. Only difference is the Pats didn't get the call. Besides the tuck rule call (12 years ago), which was a rule, when have the Pats ever got the big call?
 

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He literally never touched Brady. The flag wasn't coming out until Brady asked the ref for it - and he got it.

So don't stand there and tell me how the refs screwed you guys on anything when you've been handed the calls for years.

Wrong. The ref was already reaching for the flag and one of Brady's O-linemen was pointing it out before Brady even turned around. The fact that Suggs missed and Brady hopped out of the way has nothing to do with Suggs's intent: to take a shot at Brady's knee. PUNK MOVE. The video shows it, and we know from Sugg's repeated comments about Brady to relieve any doubt. Suggs is an idiot.
 

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Wrong. The ref was already reaching for the flag and one of Brady's O-linemen was pointing it out before Brady even turned around. The fact that Suggs missed and Brady hopped out of the way has nothing to do with Suggs's intent: to take a shot at Brady's knee. PUNK MOVE. The video shows it, and we know from Sugg's repeated comments about Brady to relieve any doubt. Suggs is an idiot.

The video shows the ref is not pulling the flag until Brady asks for it.

So don't complain when a call goes against you.
 

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He literally never touched Brady. The flag wasn't coming out until Brady asked the ref for it - and he got it.

So don't stand there and tell me how the refs screwed you guys on anything when you've been handed the calls for years.

And this from someone's team the ref's literally handed the SB to when the Steelers played the Seahawks. Can't get any fucking funnier than your last statement..
 

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And this from someone's team the ref's literally handed the SB to when the Steelers played the Seahawks. Can't get any fucking funnier than your last statement..

As I said before.....Spygate bitch.

How many trophies do you have without signals?

NONE!!!!
 

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The video shows the ref is not pulling the flag until Brady asks for it.

So don't complain when a call goes against you.


Wrong. And whether Brady (rightfully) looked for it or not is irrelevant. Suggs twisted his body to take a shot at the knees. PUNK MOVE

And what Suggs getting correctly flagged has to do with what happened the other night, I'm not sure.
 

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Wrong. And whether Brady (rightfully) looked for it or not is irrelevant. Suggs twisted his body to take a shot at the knees. PUNK MOVE

And what Suggs getting correctly flagged has to do with what happened the other night, I'm not sure.

What I'm complaining about here is that the ref wasn't going to throw the flag until Brady asked for it. His eyes are on Brady, not the Olineman.

Brady wants a flag, Brady gets a flag.

So now he cries like a little girl when he doesn't get one? Maybe he should have thrown the ball to Gronk instead of into the grass.
 

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What I'm complaining about here is that the ref wasn't going to throw the flag until Brady asked for it. His eyes are on Brady, not the Olineman.

Brady wants a flag, Brady gets a flag.

So now he cries like a little girl when he doesn't get one? Maybe he should have thrown the ball to Gronk instead of into the grass.

You love to live in the past don't you?? Get over it. Every QB gets calls....
 

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What I'm complaining about here is that the ref wasn't going to throw the flag until Brady asked for it. His eyes are on Brady, not the Olineman.

Brady wants a flag, Brady gets a flag.

So now he cries like a little girl when he doesn't get one? Maybe he should have thrown the ball to Gronk instead of into the grass.

And what I'm telling you is you don't know what you're talking about.

Fact: The ref was going for his flag before Brady turned around.
Fact: Suggs SHOULD have gotten flagged because his intent was obvious - obvious to the o-lineman, obvious to Brady, and YUP…obvious to the ref.
Fact: You saying that Brady was "crying like a little girl" reveals your bias and consequently, your inability to see what happened with the Suggs and Gronk plays with any objectivity.

Brady doesn't look for flags any more than anyone else does and The Pats get just as many calls called against them as they do in their favor.
 

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As I said before.....Spygate bitch.

How many trophies do you have without signals?

NONE!!!!


This is the typical asinine response of some teenage punk that thinks the only accomplishment worth nothing is the Superbowl. The Pats have accomplished a lot since Spygate your failure to recognize that only shows how ignorant you truly are.
 

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This is the typical asinine response of some teenage punk that thinks the only accomplishment worth nothing is the Superbowl. The Pats have accomplished a lot since Spygate your failure to recognize that only shows how ignorant you truly are.

Ignorant?

You haven't won any super bowls without them - that's a fact. You can't tell me I'm wrong.

Oh you've been close but so have a lot of other teams. In short, without those films of other teams signals, you're no better than anyone else.

You've accomplished a lot without them...but no super bowl wins.

But hey, keep pretending that BB taped signals for 7 years even though it did him no good whatsoever on the field.

And I'm no teenager - I'm old enough to have seen my Steelers win all 6 of ours.
 

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You love to live in the past don't you?? Get over it. Every QB gets calls....

I've never seen Big Ben call for a flag and get it.

The ironic thing here is that when Peyton gets a flag, Pats fans lose their minds and say he's pampered by the league.
 

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I've never seen Big Ben call for a flag and get it.

The ironic thing here is that when Peyton gets a flag, Pats fans lose their minds and say he's pampered by the league.

I've never seen Big Ben call for a flag and get it. :laugh3:
 

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Ignorant?

You haven't won any super bowls without them - that's a fact. You can't tell me I'm wrong.

Oh you've been close but so have a lot of other teams. In short, without those films of other teams signals, you're no better than anyone else.

You've accomplished a lot without them...but no super bowl wins.

But hey, keep pretending that BB taped signals for 7 years even though it did him no good whatsoever on the field.

And I'm no teenager - I'm old enough to have seen my Steelers win all 6 of ours.



"They haven't won since Spygate" is an ignorant take. Any critical thinker knows that if Asante Samuel jumps one inch higher, they have won since Spygate. If Wes Welker catches that ball in the next one, they have won since Spygate. Two plays. A matter of inches. Is that really your big argument? Do you realize how many teams haven't won the Superbowl since 2007? And do you realize that The Pats have gotten closer more consistently than almost ALL of them?

C'MON DUDE
 

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"They haven't won since Spygate" is an ignorant take. Any critical thinker knows that if Asante Samuel jumps one inch higher, they have won since Spygate. If Wes Welker catches that ball in the next one, they have won since Spygate. Two plays. A matter of inches. Is that really your big argument? Do you realize how many teams haven't won the Superbowl since 2007? And do you realize that The Pats have gotten closer more consistently than almost ALL of them?

C'MON DUDE

Yeah, the same can be said for a lot of other teams as well. The 49er's for example WOULD have won the SB if not for a few inches.

The films gave your team the edge they needed and without them, they don't win any Lombardi's.

So tell me.....if taping signals didn't help, then why did BB do it for 7 years? Why take notes on the tapes? Why is it illegal today?
 

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Ignorant?

You haven't won any super bowls without them - that's a fact. You can't tell me I'm wrong.

Oh you've been close but so have a lot of other teams. In short, without those films of other teams signals, you're no better than anyone else.

You've accomplished a lot without them...but no super bowl wins.

But hey, keep pretending that BB taped signals for 7 years even though it did him no good whatsoever on the field.

And I'm no teenager - I'm old enough to have seen my Steelers win all 6 of ours.


Did anyone say you were wrong? Without those signals and films we are still a lot better than a lot of other teams not sure where you got that little misguided tid bit. Ohhhh it's just some juvenille and asinine attempt at a dig, got it. You claim to be an adult but choose to act like a child, I guess that's actually worse then some teenager posting drivel, congrats you have even less respect now. While the Superbowl is always the untimate prize it's never the only accomplishment, you might want to think about that.
 

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Did anyone say you were wrong? Without those signals and films we are still a lot better than a lot of other teams not sure where you got that little misguided tid bit. Ohhhh it's just some juvenille and asinine attempt at a dig, got it. You claim to be an adult but choose to act like a child, I guess that's actually worse then some teenager posting drivel, congrats you have even less respect now. While the Superbowl is always the untimate prize it's never the only accomplishment, you might want to think about that.

What I recall saying is that you didn't win any Super Bowls without the tapes. That holds true.

As for the digs....well....

I believe that one of your ilk started that off when he brought up SB XL.

Tit for tat, mon ami.
 

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What I recall saying is that you didn't win any Super Bowls without the tapes. That holds true.

As for the digs....well....

I believe that one of your ilk started that off when he brought up SB XL.

Tit for tat, mon ami.


Got it, so you're not really an adult you just play one on the internet? Any Pats fan that doesn't think the Pats cheated is a complete homer not worthy of bantering back and forth with. And anyone that keeps throwing up spygate as a defense is just as bad.

Fuck it we cheated, we got caught, we got punished, we recovered. No issues there, I'd bet most teams were doing the same damn thing in fact Gruden admitted to it. BB was just an arrogant fuck and completely ignored the warnings, his I can do what ever the hell I want attitude is the main reason the Pats got caught. In some form or another all teams cheat, 70s and 80s, it was steroids. There is always and edge to gained and expolited.
 
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