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[Yankee Traveler]

That response was in reference to cdummy , who was laying out some serious homer delusions of the doncos. They weren't extreme by homer standards, just we here not being donco fans, can see it for what it is not.

My bad, I thought it was more directed at the comments of...well shit, that might not even be this thread...

 

[realityball]

Hey
… speaking of what makes great quarterbacks, I finished watching Vick’s ‘Evolution of the Black Quarterback’ on prime. It has a good examination of how the position is changing to more athletic types rather than the old school pocket passer … and it hits me how folks in general do not realize that Brady’s greatness was his ability to stay in the pocket … understanding the field, the individual pass patterns, the defenses, the receiver’s abilities, etc etc … it wasn’t just a set of balls that allowed him to stay there but knowing WTH was happening on the entire field and predicting the moving parts.

We always had good athletes like Graham and Tarkenton and Montana and Favre and Rogers who could jump out of the pocket and single-handedly create the play … but in the long run and in the playbook, those are ‘broken plays’ and as exciting as they are, their shelflife would always be limited … not in just career longevity, but throughout each game

Manning was about as close to Brady as all the greats but Brady still is the champ from what I ever saw on the field for holding his position …

Vick’s abilities and the new group of QBs will always be great weapons fer sure, but to really understand the reason for Brady’s greatness is to understand how different his style is to the ‘new way’ …

jes sayin’

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Hey
… speaking of what makes great quarterbacks, I finished watching Vick’s ‘Evolution of the Black Quarterback’ on prime. It has a good examination of how the position is changing to more athletic types rather than the old school pocket passer … and it hits me how folks in general do not realize that Brady’s greatness was his ability to stay in the pocket … understanding the field, the individual pass patterns, the defenses, the receiver’s abilities, etc etc … it wasn’t just a set of balls that allowed him to stay there but knowing WTH was happening on the entire field and predicting the moving parts.

We always had good athletes like Graham and Tarkenton and Montana and Favre and Rogers who could jump out of the pocket and single-handedly create the play … but in the long run and in the playbook, those are ‘broken plays’ and as exciting as they are, their shelflife would always be limited … not in just career longevity, but throughout each game

Manning was about as close to Brady as all the greats but Brady still is the champ from what I ever saw on the field for holding his position …

Vick’s abilities and the new group of QBs will always be great weapons fer sure, but to really understand the reason for Brady’s greatness is to understand how different his style is to the ‘new way’ …

jes sayin’

Not to mention a great O Line that was superbly coached.

 

[BigKen]

to really understand the reason for Brady’s greatness

And longevity, was to never expose himself to unnecessary beatings. His only serious injury was a cheap low shot directly to his knee.

I don't believe that Mahomes is going to make it 15 years because he's still not sliding early. Almost, as if he wants the hit for the added penalty.
Tua should be the prime example of what can happen when a QB exposes himself too often.

 

[realityball]

Not to mention a great O Line that was superbly coached.

I played tackle in HS (both ways, not cuz I was good, it was a tiny New England regional high school) … and it doesn’t take much projection to understand pass blocking is much better when you know what’s behind ya … another item not discussed much, but I can imagine anyone, from Light to Solder would admit it was easier knowing where Brady was

 

[Yankee Traveler]

I played tackle in HS (both ways, not cuz I was good, it was a tiny New England regional high school) … and it doesn’t take much projection to understand pass blocking is much better when you know what’s behind ya … another item not discussed much, but I can imagine anyone, from Light to Solder would admit it was easier knowing where Brady was

Nice.

 

[Southieinnc]

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And longevity, was to never expose himself to unnecessary beatings. His only serious injury was a cheap low shot directly to his knee.

I don't believe that Mahomes is going to make it 15 years because he's still not sliding early. Almost, as if he wants the hit for the added penalty.
Tua should be the prime example of what can happen when a QB exposes himself too often.

Bernie Pollard almost single-handedly changed the fortunes of Patriots teams and players careers......

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/1056140-bernard-pollard-leaves-mark-in-nfl-history-and-becomes-most-hated-man-in-boston

 

[realityball]

And longevity, was to never expose himself to unnecessary beatings. His only serious injury was a cheap low shot directly to his knee.

I don't believe that Mahomes is going to make it 15 years because he's still not sliding early. Almost, as if he wants the hit for the added penalty.
Tua should be the prime example of what can happen when a QB exposes himself too often.

Mahomes looks frail because he walks like a woman … but all these guys are tougher than they look. Brady got blasted many times and popped back up … it’s in their blood I think
… but Unitas always hit me as the toughest through and through … he was my favorite before Brady as goat … in the ‘field general’ category anyway

 

[Yankee Traveler]

Mahomes looks frail because he walks like a woman … but all these guys are tougher than they look. Brady got blasted many times and popped back up … it’s in their blood I think
… but Unitas always hit me as the toughest through and through … he was my favorite before Brady as goat … in the ‘field general’ category anyway

 

[YankeeRebel]

Mental toughness.

 

[realityball]

“That one didn’t hurt … that one didn’t hurt … that one hurt.”
lol … baby face, tough as sh*t …

but I remember Jim Brown getting up slow just to eff up the tacklers heads, not knowing if they hurt him or not … for seconds before the next play … btw Jim never ran out of bounds

 

[Yankee Traveler]

“That one didn’t hurt … that one didn’t hurt … that one hurt.”
lol … baby face, tough as sh*t …

but I remember Jim Brown getting up slow just to eff up the tacklers heads, not knowing if they hurt him or not … for seconds before the next play … btw Jim never ran out of bounds

Ray Lewis, Jason Taylor and Brian Urlacher all said he was the toughest QB they ever hit.

I love his attitude. Nah, that's just good clean football, I gotta slide or get rid of the ball.

 

[realityball]

Ray Lewis, Jason Taylor and Brian Urlacher all said he was the toughest QB they ever hit.

I love his attitude. Nah, that's just good clean football, I gotta slide or get rid of the ball.

Yeah, and saying how he felt protected in the pocket says a lot of what we were talking about … he knew the game

 

[Southieinnc]

Yeah, and saying how he felt protected in the pocket says a lot of what we were talking about … he knew the game

It didn't hurt that he had eyes in the back of his head......