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[deanpet21]

But you were fine with throwing away a 3rd rounder for Wentz? How does that make sense? Everybody knew that was mistake.

So far, Lattimore hasn't worked out exactly. I am good with the Samuel trade, but the price for Tunsil was very high. You also want to trade a high round pick for Hendrickson. How can the team build for the future with trading away so many picks?

Its not like the recent picks have worked out. As you cheered on Rivera and his awful decisions, I knew it would cost us dearly. You were excited and cheered for Young, Davis, and the Dotson trade. I told you they were all mistakes. None of them are even on the team now. I was right.

It was for a QB which we didnt have at the time. Of course, it didn't work out, I dont know why you still bring this up. I disagree the Tunsil price was VERY high. It ends up being a 3rd this year and 2nd next year for a stud LT which we don't have one. Hendricksen is a win now move. Its risky. Agree. I wanted Hamilton in the draft instead of trading down. Said this a lot of times.

Ok pat yourself on your back. Peters doesnt feel the same way you do as he is trading away draft picks.

 

[blastfromthepast]

It was for a QB which we didnt have at the time. Of course, it didn't work out, I dont know why you still bring this up. I disagree the Tunsil price was VERY high. It ends up being a 3rd this year and 2nd next year for a stud LT which we don't have one. Hendricksen is a win now move. Its risky. Agree. I wanted Hamilton in the draft instead of trading down. Said this a lot of times.

Ok pat yourself on your back. Peters doesnt feel the same way you do as he is trading away draft picks.

It was a terrible trade that we bid against ourselves. I told you that at the time but you didn't want to listen.

Same with drafting Young
Same with drafting Davis
Same with the Dotson trade. You told me it was a "good" trade and that River knew what he was doing.

I bring up Wentz because it shows your pattern of disregarding the importance of draft picks. You argued with Skinsdad and I that the 3rd rounder was "nothing". That simply isn't true. You argued with Gkeoka and Skinsdad about the LT trade. You clearly don't understand how building a team works. I would rather draft the future LT and develop them or roll with Coleman.

I do support Peters. I actually supported the idea of having a GM and your fought me on that. You told me the coach centric method was the right thing to do and supported Rivera. I told you Rivera would fail on Day 1 because we needed a GM. You disagreed with me as usual. At one point, you even supported EB having GM duties.

I am not sure if you still support the coach centric method or not. I was always against it. I will tell you that we hire a GM and in year 1, he got us to the NFC Finals. If having a GM is better, why didn't you say that when Rivera was hired?

 

[deanpet21]

It was a terrible trade that we bid against ourselves. I told you that at the time but you didn't want to listen.

Same with drafting Young
Same with drafting Davis
Same with the Dotson trade. You told me it was a "good" trade and that River knew what he was doing.

I bring up Wentz because it shows your pattern of disregarding the importance of draft picks. You argued with Skinsdad and I that the 3rd rounder was "nothing". That simply isn't true. You argued with Gkeoka and Skinsdad about the LT trade. You clearly don't understand how building a team works. I would rather draft the future LT and develop them or roll with Coleman.

I do support Peters. I actually supported the idea of having a GM and your fought me on that. You told me the coach centric method was the right thing to do and supported Rivera. I told you Rivera would fail on Day 1 because we needed a GM. You disagreed with me as usual. At one point, you even supported EB having GM duties.

I am not sure if you still support the coach centric method or not. I was always against it. I will tell you that we hire a GM and in year 1, he got us to the NFC Finals. If having a GM is better, why didn't you say that when Rivera was hired?

Again it depends on what the draft picks are trading for. Yes a 3rd rounder is nothing if you land your QB. We didnt so it didnt work out. There is always risk. Mutiple posters liked the Tunsil trade it makes us better right now. You don't know if the future draft picks or Coleman will work out. SO it's still a risk. No doubt you were right about RR. Im not bringing that up. Said this multiple times and yet you still bring it up. WoW

If you support Peters, then he is trading away your valued draft picks which you think is the wrong way to build a team. So how are you supporting? He put more value in Samuel, Tunsil, and Latimore. You disagree with this which is fine. He is not building team the way you want it to be built.

I support the way Peters is doing things. I like the trades he is making. If they dont work out so be it.

 

[skinsdad62]

Way to high a price to pay for Tunsil , this is his 3rd team by the way .

I told you Wentz trade was bad and the CDC trade was bad even to the point of saying he could get injured .

I like peters but he is open to criticism for sure. I don’t think he maximized the value if his resources

 

[deanpet21]

Way to high a price to pay for Tunsil , this is his 3rd team by the way .

I told you Wentz trade was bad and the CDC trade was bad even to the point of saying he could get injured .

I like peters but he is open to criticism for sure. I don’t think he maximized the value if his resources

thats your opinion which is fine. Of course you can criticize Peters that is your right, I happen to agree with the trades he made.

 

[skinsdad62]

thats your opinion which is fine. Of course you can criticize Peters that is your right, I happen to agree with the trades he made.

Funny my opinions on some of these trades turn into facts

 

[deanpet21]

Funny my opinions on some of these trades turn into facts

sure any player can get hurt. I know you cheered the injury

 

[blastfromthepast]

Again it depends on what the draft picks are trading for. Yes a 3rd rounder is nothing if you land your QB. We didnt so it didnt work out. There is always risk. Mutiple posters liked the Tunsil trade it makes us better right now. You don't know if the future draft picks or Coleman will work out. SO it's still a risk. No doubt you were right about RR. Im not bringing that up. Said this multiple times and yet you still bring it up. WoW

If you support Peters, then he is trading away your valued draft picks which you think is the wrong way to build a team. So how are you supporting? He put more value in Samuel, Tunsil, and Latimore. You disagree with this which is fine. He is not building team the way you want it to be built.

I support the way Peters is doing things. I like the trades he is making. If they dont work out so be it.

Land your QB? Who thought he was "the QB"? You and Rivera it appears. You were wrong. You got so excited about it you told me to leave when you were proven wrong. The fact that you believed Rivera could identify a QB and develop them is a terrible look.

I don't care if multiple posters liked the Tunsil trade. It was a steep price period. I like LT and support him being in the team. Claiming something is true simply because others do is a logical fallacy: Bandwagon fallacy...look it up.

Yes, I was right about Rivera and told you...along with others for 4 years. I have no clue why you refused to believe it. You have never given a logical reason why you believed Rivera was the guy. What was the main reason? Just curious.

I do support Peters. I wanted him hired for quite some time. Look it up. Matter of fact, I was advocating for a GM the day Rivera was hired. You argued that the coach centric method was the preferred route. What took you 4 years to see that we needed a GM? I still don't know what your dream scenerio is actually. Are you on board with a GM or want the coach centric platform back? You argued with me and others for 4 years and I guess you suddenly saw the light right?

This is the biggest thing you struggle with and others have said it. You can support a team without understanding or being confused at moves (trades, drafts, free agency). Just because a fan disagrees with something DOESNT MEAN they don't support the team or the GM. You don't like the word "rubber stamp" but that is the difference between you and others. You feel you must prove loyalty to the team by automatically supporting every move made. I don't see it that way at all. I support Peters and have said that 1,000 times.

I said in post 5,500 that I am good with the Samuel trade, so don't put words in my mouth. I never said I disagreed with that trade. I simply said that the Lattimore trade hasn't worked out thus far and that the LT trade price was a lot. That doesn't mean I think Peters sux or that I don't support these players. Its not just me that thinks that trading away draft picks is irresponsible, its the NFL model Dean. The draft is how you build teams. I think trades are important, but it is incredibly risky to mortgage the future with players over 30. I would avoid it if possibly if I were a GM.

You can't come in like a White Knight and try to be the progaganda police. I left for a year and the first thing I came back to was you arguing and attacking Skinsdad and Gkekoa because they weren't as "excited" as you about Tunsil. You can't call out others ALL the time because they don't blindly support every move the organization makes.

 

[blastfromthepast]

thats your opinion which is fine. Of course you can criticize Peters that is your right, I happen to agree with the trades he made.

Have you disagreed with anything Peters has done thus far? You wanted Stromberg on the team along with signing T. Smith. I know you were disappointed with some of the Rivera cuts as well right?

I think you signed off on every single move Rivera made except starting Falco right?

 

[deanpet21]

Land your QB? Who thought he was "the QB"? You and Rivera it appears. You were wrong. You got so excited about it you told me to leave when you were proven wrong. The fact that you believed Rivera could identify a QB and develop them is a terrible look.

I don't care if multiple posters liked the Tunsil trade. It was a steep price period. I like LT and support him being in the team. Claiming something is true simply because others do is a logical fallacy: Bandwagon fallacy...look it up.

Yes, I was right about Rivera and told you...along with others for 4 years. I have no clue why you refused to believe it. You have never given a logical reason why you believed Rivera was the guy. What was the main reason? Just curious.

I do support Peters. I wanted him hired for quite some time. Look it up. Matter of fact, I was advocating for a GM the day Rivera was hired. You argued that the coach centric method was the preferred route. What took you 4 years to see that we needed a GM? I still don't know what your dream scenerio is actually. Are you on board with a GM or want the coach centric platform back? You argued with me and others for 4 years and I guess you suddenly saw the light right?

This is the biggest thing you struggle with and others have said it. You can support a team without understanding or being confused at moves (trades, drafts, free agency). Just because a fan disagrees with somethign DOESNT MEAN they don't support the team or the GM. You don't like the word "rubber stamp" but that is the difference between you and others. You feel you must prove loyalty to the team by automatically supporting every move made. I don't see it that way at all. I support Peters and have said that 1,000 times.

I said in post 5,500 that I am good with the Samuel trade, so don't put words in my mouth. I never said I disagreed with that trade. I simply said that the Lattimore trade hasn't worked out thus far and that the LT trade price was a lot. That doesn't mean I think Peters sux or that I don't support these players. Its not just me that thinks that trading away draft picks is irresponsible, its the NFL model Dean. The draft is how you build teams. I think trades are important, but it is incredibly risky to mortgage the future with players over 30. I would avoid it if possibly if I were a GM.

You can't come in like a White Knight and try to be the progaganda police. I left for a year and the first thing I came back to was you arguing and attacking Skinsdad and Gkekoa because they weren't as "excited" as you about Tunsil. You can't call out others ALL the time because they don't blindly support every move the organization makes.

blah, bla, blah. You kow why you were told to leave. I thought you were a packers fan now. Its not steep price that is your opinion with the Lt trade. Im not bringing up Rr again. You are a problem with that.

We went thru this before I wanted a GM when RR got fired. where is this coming from? You dont support Peters philoshy with the trades. There is no cookie cutter way to build a team you dont understand that. You can disagree that is fine. you need all the tools draft picks, trades, vets, and FA to build a team

Never attacked just voicing my opinion about the situation. The LT trade was good for this team IMO. I will leave it at that.

 

[deanpet21]

Have you disagreed with anything Peters has done thus far? You wanted Stromberg on the team along with signing T. Smith. I know you were disappointed with some of the Rivera cuts as well right?

I think you signed off on every single move Rivera made except starting Falco right?

Of course, I dint like the draft picks of Sinott and Luke. Hopefully they work out. Not true about RR. you love to bring up RR. why?

 

[skinsdad62]

sure any player can get hurt. I know you cheered the injury

I didn’t Cheer the injury

 

[deanpet21]

I didn’t Cheer the injury

you gloated that he got hurt. Dont worry im sure you will be the first to post if LT goes down Week 1 with an ACL.

 

[deanpet21]

Land your QB? Who thought he was "the QB"? You and Rivera it appears. You were wrong. You got so excited about it you told me to leave when you were proven wrong. The fact that you believed Rivera could identify a QB and develop them is a terrible look.

I don't care if multiple posters liked the Tunsil trade. It was a steep price period. I like LT and support him being in the team. Claiming something is true simply because others do is a logical fallacy: Bandwagon fallacy...look it up.

Yes, I was right about Rivera and told you...along with others for 4 years. I have no clue why you refused to believe it. You have never given a logical reason why you believed Rivera was the guy. What was the main reason? Just curious.

I do support Peters. I wanted him hired for quite some time. Look it up. Matter of fact, I was advocating for a GM the day Rivera was hired. You argued that the coach centric method was the preferred route. What took you 4 years to see that we needed a GM? I still don't know what your dream scenerio is actually. Are you on board with a GM or want the coach centric platform back? You argued with me and others for 4 years and I guess you suddenly saw the light right?

This is the biggest thing you struggle with and others have said it. You can support a team without understanding or being confused at moves (trades, drafts, free agency). Just because a fan disagrees with something DOESNT MEAN they don't support the team or the GM. You don't like the word "rubber stamp" but that is the difference between you and others. You feel you must prove loyalty to the team by automatically supporting every move made. I don't see it that way at all. I support Peters and have said that 1,000 times.

I said in post 5,500 that I am good with the Samuel trade, so don't put words in my mouth. I never said I disagreed with that trade. I simply said that the Lattimore trade hasn't worked out thus far and that the LT trade price was a lot. That doesn't mean I think Peters sux or that I don't support these players. Its not just me that thinks that trading away draft picks is irresponsible, its the NFL model Dean. The draft is how you build teams. I think trades are important, but it is incredibly risky to mortgage the future with players over 30. I would avoid it if possibly if I were a GM.

You can't come in like a White Knight and try to be the progaganda police. I left for a year and the first thing I came back to was you arguing and attacking Skinsdad and Gkekoa because they weren't as "excited" as you about Tunsil. You can't call out others ALL the time because they don't blindly support every move the organization makes.

my bad on the Samuel trade. never said you didn't support the team, i said the draft pick philosophy that Peters is using goes against what you believe in. No cookie cutter way to build a team.

 

[skinsdad62]

you gloated that he got hurt. Dont worry im sure you will be the first to post if LT goes down Week 1 with an ACL.

I gloated ? Please

 

[deanpet21]

I gloated ? Please

yes you keep bringing it up to this day. A horrible day for the franchise.

 

[skinsdad62]

yes you keep bringing it up to this day. A horrible day for the franchise.

Bringing it up is not gloating , it’s stating a fact

 

[blastfromthepast]

Bringing it up is not gloating , it’s stating a fact

Skinsdad never bragged or laughed about the injury. He said he wasn't surprised due to age...but he never thought it was funny or wished it about Smith.

 

[deanpet21]

Bringing it up is not gloating , it’s stating a fact

you keep bringing it up. Like ai said an injury could happen to anybody. Young or old. That was catrostrophic injury

 

[blastfromthepast]

blah, bla, blah. You kow why you were told to leave. I thought you were a packers fan now. Its not steep price that is your opinion with the Lt trade. Im not bringing up Rr again. You are a problem with that.

We went thru this before I wanted a GM when RR got fired. where is this coming from? You dont support Peters philoshy with the trades. There is no cookie cutter way to build a team you dont understand that. You can disagree that is fine. you need all the tools draft picks, trades, vets, and FA to build a team

Never attacked just voicing my opinion about the situation. The LT trade was good for this team IMO. I will leave it at that.

Actually, I am not terribly sure why you lost your temper and told me to leave. I have never told another poster to leave, so I would not know.
My guess is because I proved you wrong once again and you got angry. Only Skinsdad can tell someone to leave and you aren't him. You get upset when someone knows more about the team. That is what happened and that is why Skinsdad jumped in and corrected you.

Yes, I was going to go to the Packers. Like many WSH fans, I got fed up with Snyder and could not stomach the lying, theft, harrasment, intimidation, and silencing women in the workforce. I couldn't defend it anymore. If it didn't bother you and you felt comfortable with it, so be it. Clearly I wasn't alone as we were last in attendance in the NFL in 2022 and next to last in 2021. Once loyal fans left for other teams...its simply a fact.

I bring up Rivera because for 4 years you lectured me on how he was the savior of the franchise and how I needed to get on board. You lectured me on how I wasn't a true fan because I didn't kiss the ring of Rivera. I tried to tell you he was tearing down the team but you decided to cheer him on and agenda post. You told me the coach centric method was the right way to go. Excuse me for being confused after 4 full years of your propaganda and now you all of a sudden saw the light? Why did it take you 4 years to come to this conclusion? Even after 3 non-winning seasons, you told me you still had hope for him. If Peters was fired, I am not sure you would be bothered if Quinn became the GM. You still like the coach centric method.

There you go again connecting dots in your head that don't exist. Why do I disagree with Peter's trades? I have said for years that it takes trades, and free agency to fill out a team. However, the draft is the backbone and foundation. I have proven this to you numerous times.

I never said anything about the Lattimore trade except that it hasn't worked out yet. I wasn't even on the board when it happened.
I said I liked th Samuel trade.
I said the price was steep for LT. He is past 30 and wants to get paid soon. I never said I don't like LT. I simply said I would have rolled with Coleman.

Your issue is that you conflate support and approval. You can support something or someone and NOT approve of everything they do. For example, I support DQ as our coach and like him. However, if he goes for it on 4th and 50, I don't approve of that decision. That doesn't mean I don't support him. Nearly every poster here has told you that.