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[skinsdad62]

COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness​

Getting vaccinated against COVID-19 helps protect people from getting sick or severely ill with COVID-19 and can also help protect the people around them. CDC continues to monitor how well the vaccines are working. Clinical trials show that all COVID-19 vaccines authorized in the United States are effective at preventing COVID-19, especially severe disease, hospitalization, and death.​

That’s why there are 17000 breakthrough deaths right now

 

[skinsdad62]

Just because most people won't die from Covid doesn't mean that they shouldnt become vaccinated from it.

Most people don't die from the flu either, but they get shots for it.
Most people wont die from Measles, Mumps, Rubella, HPV, Polio, or any other disease their is a vaccine for, but that doesnt prevent the government from requiring innoculation.

What a stupid argument.

No the stupid argument is deaths matter . You are not required to have vaccines as you listed above , you can get a waiver for kids to go to school but then again those vaccines aren’t the same as this one .

I don’t take vaccines for the flu because it isn’t a threat to me . Haven’t had it in 30 plus years

 

[skinsdad62]

Divide 320 mil into 750,000 and what fo you get ?

 

[skinsdad62]

By virtually every metric, Matt Ryan has been playing like a top 5-8 QB during the past 7 weeks, launching an uninspiring team with no running game and a porous defense into playoff contention with his borderline elite play.

He has won a whopping 1 more game then KC yet silence because pedestrian fans haven’t gotten it’s a team game .

Sonny jurgensen is a HOF qb with a career losing record making a mockery of busting out KC for actually performing well while having a losing record . Maybe the rest of the team needs to pick up the pace just like our team needed to ?

 

[skinsdad62]

Perhaps the biggest BS call In history

 

[Caliskinsfan]

No it isn’t false , their fact check is all about nothing that as said by the CDC read it

THAT "chart" of data is NOWHERE to be found on the CDC website.

you show me YOUR link where it does

 

[Caliskinsfan]

That’s why there are 17000 breakthrough deaths right now

using your argument style... Better than the MILLIONs of deaths without

 

[Sportster 72]

I kind of see COVID vax the same as the flu. It won't prevent you from getting COVID, but it is supposed to help. Old people die from complications of the flu and from COVID. No one makes you go get a flu shot. It is not a requirement of work. They don't keep statistics of flu deaths and illnesses like they do COVID. I get both. Why not? I don't think it should be mandatory.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

I kind of see COVID vax the same as the flu. It won't prevent you from getting COVID, but it is supposed to help. Old people die from complications of the flu and from COVID. No one makes you go get a flu shot. It is not a requirement of work. They don't keep statistics of flu deaths and illnesses like they do COVID. I get both. Why not? I don't think it should be mandatory.

lot of similarities just spreads quicker and can have more deadly results.

i'd never gotten a flu shot before last year (my doctor finally convinced me) since they are typically just a guesstimate as to which flu strain is likely to come about any given year.

I found this chart that includes deaths from pneumonia, influenza and Covid that was eye opening on CDC website

Provisional Death Counts for Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19)

National Center for Health Statistics

www.cdc.gov

 

[Caliskinsfan]

some common fallacies regarding Covid and Vaccines debunked by Snopes

'18 Reasons' Anti-Vax Post Filled With Reckless Falsehoods

A blog post riddled with misinformation is effectively a "Now That's What I Call Music" style anthology of debunked anti-vaccine and COVID-19 denial claims.

www.snopes.com

#9: “The Vaccines Do Not Stop Transmission or Infection”​

Elliot again repeats the false assertion that vaccines do not stop viral transmission or infection. The post asks “If we’re worried about asymptomatic spreaders, would the vaccine not make it more likely that we are creating asymptomatic spread?” No, the empirical data on this point is clear: The vaccines reduce asymptomatic transmission. “If it indeed reduces symptoms, anyone who gets it might not even know they are sick and thus they are more likely to spread the virus, right?” Again, no, because the vaccine reduces asymptomatic spread and viral load.

#10: “People Are Catching COVID After Being Fully Vaccinated”​

Some people have caught COVID-19 after being vaccinated. This is not unexpected. When vaccine manufacturers say their product is, for example, 95% effective, that means it will be not effective in 5% of cases. When you have administered over 100 million doses of vaccine, you are going to find cases of people for whom the vaccine did not prevent infection. Even in those cases, however, it is likely that the vaccine still helps to reduce the severity of infection.

#11: “The Overall Death Rate from COVID”​

Elliot asserts that COVID-19 has a “99.74%” survival rate. It is unclear when or where Elliot got this figure, but it was almost certainly not the CDC, as claimed. Determining such a number is challenging for several reasons, and the number can change over time. At the time of this reporting, according to Johns Hopkins University, the case fatality rate for COVID-19 in the United States — the number of deaths per 100 confirmed cases — is 1.8%. As Anthony Fauci explained during congressional testimony, even a rate of 1% would make COVID-19 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.

 

[Caliskinsfan]

wow

 

[Caliskinsfan]

 

[skinsdad62]

i will say it again there is no need to have different standards . the athletes by CDC numbers , not mine , clearly show they are not at risk and its all about forced compliance and not data or science

if you feel the vaccine is best for you take it , wont hear a peep out of me , but dont act like you have the right to force me to take anything i dont want t for whatever reason

i know the risks and benefits and because someone lives in fear doesnt mean i have to.

the vaccine was said to be the CURE when it came out . it wasnt . and the goal posts have moved ever since and i have found that not rushing in is the best policy since the experts dont really know

 

[chillerdab]

No the stupid argument is deaths matter . You are not required to have vaccines as you listed above , you can get a waiver for kids to go to school but then again those vaccines aren’t the same as this one .

I don’t take vaccines for the flu because it isn’t a threat to me . Haven’t had it in 30 plus years

Nobody said that Deaths don't matter. That's not even remotely related to the point.

And in most states the only thing that prevents your child from not having to be fully immunized in order to go to school is a religious exemption.

So you're wrong about that too.

 

[chillerdab]

i will say it again there is no need to have different standards . the athletes by CDC numbers , not mine , clearly show they are not at risk and its all about forced compliance and not data or science

if you feel the vaccine is best for you take it , wont hear a peep out of me , but dont act like you have the right to force me to take anything i dont want t for whatever reason

i know the risks and benefits and because someone lives in fear doesnt mean i have to.

the vaccine was said to be the CURE when it came out . it wasnt . and the goal posts have moved ever since and i have found that not rushing in is the best policy since the experts dont really know

Nobody is forcing players to take the vaccine, just like nobody is forcing hypocrites to stay at their jobs if their employers make decisions about what new health mandates they want their employees to follow.

Beasley, Rodgers, and you can all walk off your jobs if you don't like the rules imposed on you by your employers. Plenty already have. They wont and neither will you because you don't actually believe in what you are saying, you're lazy, or both.

Idiocy like "they said it was supposed to be a cure," is simply an admission that you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. Nobody said it was going to definitley, 100%, really and truly be a super-duper cure for all things Covid because the experts all knew that the virus was a NOVEL virus.

Can some anti-vax half-wit loser find some interview and take it out of context to fool other half-wit losers into believing their mumblings? We all know THAT to be true.

 

[skinsdad62]

Nobody said that Deaths don't matter. That's not even remotely related to the point.

And in most states the only thing that prevents your child from not having to be fully immunized in order to go to school is a religious exemption.

So you're wrong about that too.

no i didnt have a religious exemption , just signed a waiver . like anyone else can or i simply home school them
facts are that NFL athletes arent in a category that will cause them to die , and they re the least likely to be infected
having 2 different standards is not needed

 

[skinsdad62]

Nobody is forcing players to take the vaccine, just like nobody is forcing hypocrites to stay at their jobs if their employers make decisions about what they new health mandates they want their employees to follow.

Beasley, Rodgers, and you can all walk off your jobs if you don't like the rules imposed on you by your employers. Plenty already have. They wont and neither will you because you don't actually believe in what you are saying, you're lazy, or both.

denying them income or making things harder on them if they dont is the definition of coercion period

 

[chillerdab]

no i didnt have a religious exemption , just signed a waiver . like anyone else can or i simply home school them
facts are that NFL athletes arent in a category that will cause them to die , and they re the least likely to be infected
having 2 different standards is not needed

When you went to school is vastly different than what is happening in schools now.

Also, as I said, MOST everywhere - not the same as everywhere - you can only get away with not being fully immunized to go to school if you have a religious exemption.

Again, your experience is not anything but yours. It's not truth, or law, or right.

 

[skinsdad62]

When you went to school is vastly different than what is happening in schools now.

Also, as I said, MOST everywhere - not the same as everywhere - you can only get away with not being fully immunized to go to school if you have a religious exemption.

Again, your experience is not anything but yours. It's not truth, or law, or right.

tell it to my 7 kids and when they went to school RECENTLY , and i DIDNT NEED A RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

i knew my rights and how to apply them to the system

 

[chillerdab]

tell it to my 7 kids and when they went to school RECENTLY , and i DIDNT NEED A RELIGIOUS EXEMPTION

i knew my rights and how to apply them to the system

It shouldn’t be surprising to me anymore that people equate their limited experiences with what must be happening elsewhere or everywhere or to everyone.

But it is, still.

I mean, what the fuck is it that you didn’t understand about what I posted about this?

Seriously.