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[ROMOTOOWENS]

Why? I love reading about Romo...

Not sure where he is going with that one

 

[TheStarOne]

I thought it was funny, when on the FOX broadcast, they started talking about Romo and December. And Aikman had said, he hoped they never check into his Decembers. He was correct..........

The COWBOYS, with Aikman QBing, in December, had the same won loss record as Romo's COWBOYS.
18 Wins 19 Losses......hard to believe, with all their talent

Aikman 59%.....Romo 63.71%
Aikman 35 TDs and 30 INTS.......Romo......... 60 TDs.....28 INTS
Aikmam..78 Passer rating.........Romo 94.1 passer rating....

Romo, the clipboard holder, hasn't had bad Decembers......but his team has

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Aikman struggled in bad weather. Thankfully, he didn't have to play many games in the rain or snow. I don't even have to look but I'm betting he played pretty bad in Thanksgiving snow game.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Got curious- 28-43 181 1td 1 int. Moose had 11 catches, Emmitt 9

 

[PDay8810]

Pretty much everyone knows Aikman is in the HOF for what he did in 4 playoff seasons (January Games)

1992 - 61 of 89 for 795 yards (68.5%) 8 TD's and 0 Ints (126.4 QBR) Team Record 3-0

1993 - 61 of 82 for 686 yards (74.4%) 5 TD's and 3 Ints (104 QBR) Team Record 3-0

1994 - 53 of 83 for 717 yards (63.9%) 4 TD's and 4 Ints (87.3 QBR) Team Record 1-1

1995 - 53 of 80 for 720 yards (66.3%) 4 TD's and 1 Ints (106.4 QBR) Team Record 3-0

Haters are gonna hate and drug store cowboys aren't real cowboys

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Those are awesome numbers

 

[PDay8810]

stats seldom tell the story and agenda's remain the worst.

clipboard holder and all

 

[TheStarOne]

stats seldom tell the story and agenda's remain the worst.

clipboard holder and all

I totally agree...Stats don't tell the whole story........And again I'm a great fan of Golden Boy......Aikman was the perfect QB for the 90's COWBOYS ,Jimmy and Norv.....He was the right QB for the system, steel resolve, great leader.........and very accurate
My point was and is, (by my disdain for the NFL Network ,the media, and a lot of fans) MYTHS die hard...

The media, because of one snap in Seattle, created the myth Romo can't play under stress. Well. that's not true.
And my point has been. Put Romo with the 70's or 90's COWBOYS and see how he would do....Romo got some taste of what it would be like last season. ....a running game.....a system like the 70s and 90s COWBOYS...
One big difference though....The 2014 COWBOY'S defense was no where near the DOOMSDAY DEFENSE of the 70s or the number one defense in the league of the 90s..... Romo has more 4th quarter comebacks than any QB since 2007 and more 4th QTR comebacks and game winning drives than Aikman or Staubach...In the last two seasons, Romo has the highest 4th quarter passer rating of any QB in the NFL.
It's tough to separate any QB from their era,coaching staff and surrounding team. But it would have been fun to see Romo play under Norv and Jimmy.......and that caliber of team

 

[TheStarOne]

Pretty much everyone knows Aikman is in the HOF for what he did in 4 playoff seasons (January Games)

1992 - 61 of 89 for 795 yards (68.5%) 8 TD's and 0 Ints (126.4 QBR) Team Record 3-0

1993 - 61 of 82 for 686 yards (74.4%) 5 TD's and 3 Ints (104 QBR) Team Record 3-0

1994 - 53 of 83 for 717 yards (63.9%) 4 TD's and 4 Ints (87.3 QBR) Team Record 1-1

1995 - 53 of 80 for 720 yards (66.3%) 4 TD's and 1 Ints (106.4 QBR) Team Record 3-0

Haters are gonna hate and drug store cowboys aren't real cowboys

Troy Aikman was a great QB......Where did I post anything else? I was just making a point that Romo has very good numbers in December.......The media likes to create 10 second sound bites about players. They type cast, it's easier for the ignorant........and Roger / Troy got to drive a Ferrari...

We've found out this season, how bad those 8-8 teams would have been, if Romo would not have been QB.

 

[PDay8810]

the FG hold has nothing to do with it. I still don't subscribe to plug and play QB woulda produced the same results in the 90's. 10-1 when the stage was it's brightest along with a 3 to 1 TD to Int ratio can not be assumed. It remains all about the decisions made or not made when distributing the football at the given moment. That still separates the men from the boys.

Anyone and everyone from the 70's era will tell you it was Staubach. That was proven after 5 years of beat downs and the best seller book.... Dallas Cowboys Pro or Con.

 

[PDay8810]

Troy Aikman was a great QB......Where did I post anything else?

gee...I don't know, perhaps
"The COWBOYS, with Aikman QBing, in December, had the same won loss record as Romo's COWBOYS.
18 Wins 19 Losses......hard to believe, with all their talent"

more often than not....Dallas was just playing um out

I'm sorry the large majority of Cowboy fans view Romo as the 3rd best QB in Dallas Cowboy history

 

[TheStarOne]

Troy Aikman: Tony Romo is a better quarterback than I was

I also think there are no best evers in any sport.......too difficult to prove,,,,,,,,,,,,,There are too many variables in complex sports equations,,,,, I guess that's why there are opinions that can not be proven.......

Romo has mainly dealt with Garrett
Aikman dealt with Johnson......great defense
Staubach dealt with Landry...great defense

.........2 HOF coaches and Garrett

How would Aikman and Staubach do in the 2007 season to the present?.......nobody will ever know.

 

[PDay8810]

How would Aikman and Staubach do in the 2007 season to the present?.......nobody will ever know.

I wish you hadn't said the 2007 season. 2008 and on? no problem... but not 2007.

2007 was the one that got away, not a mishandled FG 8 games into being a starter. I'd bet my life neither Roger nor Troy miss Owens over the middle early 3rd QTR. Even with that arrant 3rd Qtr. pass that resulted in a 4 point swing...I feel pretty darn certain Aikman and Staubach woulda both won it in the 4th finding themselves in the opponents territory TWICE with 1st downs. Roger in the 4th QTR with winning opportunities like that? You kidding me? Troy was pretty solid in big games as indicated earlier. Not 2007, Crayton screw ups & brain fart included. Roger & Troy both most likely play in the SB in 07 at the very least. I know neither woulda gone to Cabo, even if Humpty Dumpty had paid for the air fare

Star....this tap dance between us is at least 5 years old. I'm not trying to change your mind but every sports fan will talk about the best ever to play a position for a certain team. That is the nature of the beast in all sports fans. The legacy of the Dallas Cowboys has been playoff success. That's been the rally cry the last 20 years for Cowboy haters and the lack of um... it has merit. Eight Super Bowls in the first 28 played and countless of NFC Championship Game heart aches is why the Dallas Cowboys are the Dallas Cowboys...even with the last 20 years of futility, the Cowboys remain a top NFL draw. That still ain't because of jerry, Stephen, Garrett, Dez OR all the passing records of Tony Romo. It's the greatness of the first 36 years of Cowboy football, not the last 19.

It truly is what it is

 

[Manster7588]

Comparing stats from the 70's 80's 90's and today makes no sense, the game has changed too much. The defenses Roger played against and to a lesser extent Troy played against were allowed much more freedom to contact the receivers and flat out kick the shit out of the QB's. Odds are some of the great QB's today wouldn't last 5 seasons in Rogers days.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

I still have no clue what the hell Cabo a week earlier has to do with anything. To me that is just an excuse. Would Aikman and Staubach have played better in that game - maybe so , but I just don't see the big deal about a trip a week sooner.

 

[PDay8810]

I still have no clue what the hell Cabo a week earlier has to do with anything. To me that is just an excuse. Would Aikman and Staubach have played better in that game - maybe so , but I just don't see the big deal about a trip a week sooner.

Romo today will tell you it was a mistake to go and I hardly made a big deal about it in my above post

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

Romo today will tell you it was a mistake to go and I hardly made a big deal about it in my above post

I have never understood why a big deal was ever made about it. Not by you, but the media, etc. If they win that game , I just wonder if anyone ever mentions it.

 

[ROMOTOOWENS]

2007- I have always wondered if JG would have called the game different if he had the chance. I know Wade was the coach but JG ran the offense. It was almost like he coached a different game than he had all year. Maybe it had some thing to do with TOwens injury but The game plan was real conservative. They started Barber for the first time all year. No way we should have lost that game

 

[TheStarOne]

Comparing stats from the 70's 80's 90's and today makes no sense, the game has changed too much. The defenses Roger played against and to a lesser extent Troy played against were allowed much more freedom to contact the receivers and flat out kick the shit out of the QB's. Odds are some of the great QB's today wouldn't last 5 seasons in Rogers days.

I tend to agree with you up to a certain point... The game has evolved. And just maybe, because so many QBs are hurt this year, teams will go to a more run oriented, short pass game. I thought the COWBOYS in 2014 finally rediscovered the 90's secret to winning games.....

the formula..... of running the ball 50+% of the time
keeping the opposing QB off the field
tiring the opposing defense out
keeping our defense rested
and not having Romo throw the ball 45+ times......more chance to get hurt
shortening the game

But having said all that..I do believe you can compare some stats of different eras....completion percentage for one. Receivers may get open easier now days, but a QB still has to complete the pass...

And the question still stands.....Would Aikman or Staubach have done any better with the COWBOY teams from 2006 until now? Too many variables to know

 

[Manster7588]

I tend to agree with you up to a certain point... The game has evolved. And just maybe, because so many QBs are hurt this year, teams will go to a more run oriented, short pass game. I thought the COWBOYS in 2014 finally rediscovered the 90's secret to winning games.....

the formula..... of running the ball 50+% of the time
keeping the opposing QB off the field
tiring the opposing defense out
keeping our defense rested
and not having Romo throw the ball 45+ times......more chance to get hurt
shortening the game

But having said all that..I do believe you can compare some stats of different eras....completion percentage for one. Receivers may get open easier now days, but a QB still has to complete the pass...

And the question still stands.....Would Aikman or Staubach have done any better with the COWBOY teams from 2006 until now? Too many variables to know

Nope, the game has changed to much, comparing numbers from 1970, 80 and 90 to taday doesn't work. Close the book on the old NFL, this is a complete new story.