Game Thread: Nebraska @ Iowa

[Exorbitant]

recruiting classes ranks show talent level but say nothing about whether that talent fits the system you are recruiting towards. That's the biggest problem right now, our O-line was recruited to play a spread system and we are trying to get them to play in a west coast. Iowa's system has been in place for a couple of decades, just like Wisconsin's. give MR time to build up the o-line and we should be able to get there. we had injury problems all year on that o-line and it never stood up when it needed to, it actually held up much better against Iowa then i expected, but TA only hit the open guys 37% of the time. i hardly ever remember him being under pressure and to only hit 37% is just plain horrible.

on defense, as others have said, we knew it would be a struggle on the DL. too young and outmatched against a lot of teams. I think the twins and Stolt got a ton better this year and have a bright future but still need more time, FA is getting better too. i think at times Banker hurt the defense by not playing tighter coverage and letting too many short passes go uncontested.

i do think that the practices need to get more physical. you can't teach that mentality to 18-22yos without doing it in practice. maybe they were trying to save our thin OL and DL, hopefully that won't be a problem next year and they start bashing some heads and get that worked out.

I hate to say it, but Riley won't get there with our team. Look at the history of his teams at his previous stint to see he also had a lot of years there without breaking through. I hope to hell I'm wrong because I know we're stuck with this group of coaches for a few years of heartbreaks otherwise.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

Oh that excuses a coach for not having the team prepared to play then? Did you notice Minnesota had their team prepared to play today and they were over-matched by a wide margin too! Michigan State was prepared to play against OSU, and very easily could have won that game. How bout that?

By the way genius, if that had happened the week before the Iowa game, I could see that being a factor, but that happened months ago.

Also, a 3-8 Michigan State is prepared to play today and they are playing in front of a hostile crowd exceeding 100K at Penn State!!!

There are so many cases of teams around the country with new coaches that are ROARING! Actually, I am somewhat excusing Riley for the debacle in Columbus because of our QB situation demoralizing the team, but getting blown out by Iowa is ridiculous. Iowa has a ton of injuries too.

You are the biggest moron I've ever encountered online. That is saying something. It's impossible to even debate with you because you are incapable of understanding any viewpoint that differs from your own or formulating an argument. You guys have fun stewing in your own shit blaming everyone you can think of for why Nebraska is where it is right now. It's not because Eichorst is an idiot or Riley is a bad coach. It's hilarious that we are sitting at 9-3, which is better than ANYONE with any semblance of football knowledge would have predicted preseason with this roster, and people are declaring the Riley hire a bust. I can't wait to see what you all have to say about him once he gets us back where we should be. Until then, have fun pretending like you know shit. I'm out.

 

[NE1tm2nv]

Well, I woke up this morning and I'm even more concerned than I was yesterday.

The lack of heart that I saw, the busted plays, etc etc... I don't get it, I really don't. I think back to the team that beat Northwestern with ease, the team that should have beat Wisconsin.....both of those on the road.....both of those teams manhandled Iowa.

Yet it looked like we had nothing to play for. Guys just kinda going through the motions. In position to make tackles but missing them left and right.

I hope Minnesota wins today so those guys who had given up already before the 2nd quarter even started can think to themselves......"oh shit, we could have went to the Championship game."

Minny up 17-10 going into the 4th quarter, good game happenin' here.

 

[Exorbitant]

You are the biggest moron I've ever encountered online. That is saying something. It's impossible to even debate with you because you are incapable of understanding any viewpoint that differs from your own or formulating an argument. You guys have fun stewing in your own shit blaming everyone you can think of for why Nebraska is where it is right now. It's not because Eichorst is an idiot or Riley is a bad coach. It's hilarious that we are sitting at 9-3, which is better than ANYONE with any semblance of football knowledge would have predicted preseason with this roster, and people are declaring the Riley hire a bust. I can't wait to see what you all have to say about him once he gets us back where we should be. Until then, have fun pretending like you know shit. I'm out.

Yeah go ahead and continue to use the lack of talent crap. Riley isn't a bad coach, but there sure is hell better coaches out there that SHOULD have been given an offer to come here over Riley. Mark my words, what we saw this season is about the best we'll see with Riley. I do have to laugh at Alabama because they actually offered Riley their head coaching position! Wow, I bet they're thanking their lucky stars he turned it down!

 

[psaboy]

Do you mean it was a reason why a coach was fired?

I'm still on the Bo needed to go group, but what we saw yesterday is the same thing, so I guess I'm feeling that Riley was not the best hire. Sure, Riley is getting the looks from 4-5 star QB's, RB's but the O & D lines are getting out played when they match up against any respectable team. That needs to be addressed ASAP, Iowa was pushing Corn around all f'ing day.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

You are the biggest moron I've ever encountered online. That is saying something. It's impossible to even debate with you because you are incapable of understanding any viewpoint that differs from your own or formulating an argument. You guys have fun stewing in your own shit blaming everyone you can think of for why Nebraska is where it is right now. It's not because Eichorst is an idiot or Riley is a bad coach. It's hilarious that we are sitting at 9-3, which is better than ANYONE with any semblance of football knowledge would have predicted preseason with this roster, and people are declaring the Riley hire a bust. I can't wait to see what you all have to say about him once he gets us back where we should be. Until then, have fun pretending like you know shit. I'm out.

I'm not saying that can't happen, but it won't happen using the same formula Riley has used in the past even given the best recruits in the country.

At some point you have to change in order to succeed. You won't succeed at football just throwing the ball. You have to be able to pound it to some extent. Can Riley do it? He'll have to change his mindset. You can't always just run around tacklers......you have to be able to push people around up front. That's when you'll win in College Football.

Wisconsin is a great example right now. There is average talent on that team. But they have a certain mentality. They drive people off the ball and they do what they want. Has Riley ever done that? Can Riley do it? He'll have to do something different than he's ever done.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

This idea that recruits will change our fortunes is all a pipe dream.

It takes leadership. It starts with coaching.

 

[Exorbitant]

This idea that recruits will change our fortunes is all a pipe dream.

It takes leadership. It starts with coaching.

Bingo! We are seeing proof of this from about half a dozen schools who have new coaches. Certain people here believe all of the schools just had more talent than Riley has at Nebraska. No, for the most part they just hired BETTER HEAD COACHES than Eichorst did.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

I'm not saying that can't happen, but it won't happen using the same formula Riley has used in the past even given the best recruits in the country.

At some point you have to change in order to succeed. You won't succeed at football just throwing the ball. You have to be able to pound it to some extent. Can Riley do it? He'll have to change his mindset. You can't always just run around tacklers......you have to be able to push people around up front. That's when you'll win in College Football.

Wisconsin is a great example right now. There is average talent on that team. But they have a certain mentality. They drive people off the ball and they do what they want. Has Riley ever done that? Can Riley do it? He'll have to do something different than he's ever done.

I watched the Penn State game yesterday and that Penn State v Ohio State white out game - those players give 100% for their coach. The B1G Championship game will have 2 teams that improved as the season went on and of course players that give it their all every play. That is all I want to see out of the Husker players. Penn State came back from the near death of their program to win the hardest division in the B1G.

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

Penn State under Franklin
2014 7-6, 2015 7-6, 2016 10-2 Division Champs

Franklin was at the top of the list for coaches on the hot seat in 2015. Some of the things said was Franklin was not a good fit for Penn State, couldn't get his players to buy in, couldn't win the big ones. Need a proven commodity.

One year later, wins one of the toughest divisions in FBS football. Hmmm.

 

[HuskerInSecLand]

Bingo! We are seeing proof of this from about half a dozen schools who have new coaches. Certain people here believe all of the schools just had more talent than Riley has at Nebraska. No, for the most part they just hired BETTER HEAD COACHES than Eichorst did.

It's not so much about talent as it is about fit. Hell I won't guarantee Riley will be a great coach here. But I sure as hell am not so blind as to see this team was not his players in his scheme. And yes that includes the lines.

 

[huskers1217]

I'm disappointed in the way we game out to play in 2 games.

 

[tometom]

hmmm, odd coincidence but Franklin had a QB not right for his system the first 2 years he was there and this year he finally got to run his offense.

 

[Tomhusker]

hmmm, odd coincidence but Franklin had a QB not right for his system the first 2 years he was there and this year he finally got to run his offense.

Well, that's not how things work around here. The coaches have to win regardless of what type of players they have. Whether they recruited them for their own system or not.
Like, if you are hired to replace a window and when you show up to do the work you are told you can only use a pick axe and a blow torch, but it has to be done perfectly. If you can't get it done then you obviously need to change the way you do things. It has nothing to do with the tools you have on hand.

Or something like that.

 

[corn train]

Well, that's not how things work around here. The coaches have to win regardless of what type of players they have. Whether they recruited them for their own system or not.
Like, if you are hired to replace a window and when you show up to do the work you are told you can only use a pick axe and a blow torch, but it has to be done perfectly. If you can't get it done then you obviously need to change the way you do things. It has nothing to do with the tools you have on hand.

Or something like that.

This is correct, as long as you can do 9 windows though, unless they're smallish size windows then it no longer counts as 9. That would have been great previously but now the double standard has doubled, it's just the timing is/was so important

 

[Exorbitant]

It's not so much about talent as it is about fit. Hell I won't guarantee Riley will be a great coach here. But I sure as hell am not so blind as to see this team was not his players in his scheme. And yes that includes the lines.

I heard through the grapevine today that some of the players didn't want to go to the title game. If this is true, I guess that would explain part of why we saw what we did on Friday. Maybe those players were Pelini's recruits? Oh well, on to a bowl loss, and then hopefully next season we'll see more competitiveness against the best teams on the schedule.

Also, just two completions by TA out of those four long bombs and that game would have been competitive. I sided with TA the whole season, but now I'll be glad when he's gone.

 

[Exorbitant]

Well, that's not how things work around here. The coaches have to win regardless of what type of players they have. Whether they recruited them for their own system or not.
Like, if you are hired to replace a window and when you show up to do the work you are told you can only use a pick axe and a blow torch, but it has to be done perfectly. If you can't get it done then you obviously need to change the way you do things. It has nothing to do with the tools you have on hand.

Or something like that.

Did Washington, Florida, Michigan, Houston, or Ohio State have the players needed to do great for their coaches in the beginning? I bet any of the coaches from those schools would have done better than Riley did.

 

[Tomhusker]

Did Washington, Florida, Michigan, Houston, or Ohio State have the players needed to do great for their coaches in the beginning? I bet any of the coaches from those schools would have done better than Riley did.

Baseless speculation.

 

[it'sHuskers4me]

Did Washington, Florida, Michigan, Houston, or Ohio State have the players needed to do great for their coaches in the beginning? I bet any of the coaches from those schools would have done better than Riley did.

One thing I wondered was why didn't MR & DL install the wildcat with a RB or WR at QB to run against Iowa. I figured they would give it a try considering the health issues the QBs had. I mean it's like they didn't even want to try something new. IDK guys, must be a coaching flexibility issue or something.

 

[oaknightshockey1]

One thing I wondered was why didn't MR & DL install the wildcat with a RB or WR at QB to run against Iowa. I figured they would give it a try considering the health issues the QBs had. I mean it's like they didn't even want to try something new. IDK guys, must be a coaching flexibility issue or something.

Or maybe they had 5 days of prep and installing a new offense is more complicated than on your PlayStation