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No one has cared about AZ, ever. I'll watch the Skins/Giants game. Even with no playoff implications, Eli and RG3 will bring in higher numbers than those other games will. SF would bring in good numbers, but against STL...who is playing QB again? Cincy and SD...again no one would care.

Giants and Skins both have bigger following and are in bigger cities. Even with no playoffs on the line, it is still a strong rivalry and will get big numbers.

You may not care, but plenty of people would care. Although I disagree, I do understand you logic.

And I get why you want to take a shot at the Cardinals, but this thread isn't about how the Cardinals have owned the Cowboys in recent history so I wont go down that path.....

You really want to see Skins/Giants? Did you see the Skins on Monday night? The fact that that excites you more than two potential playoff teams is interesting. Especially considering you are neck and neck with the Eagles for the division.

I agree AZ is not a big market, and of course I am a biased toward the Cardinals, but AZ & Philly are two of the hottest teams in football. And there are marquee players on both teams. The ratings would be just as good, if not better.
 

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NEW YORK and BALTIMORE/WASHINGTON are gigantic television markets.
The goal is to make money and sell a product.

If the NFL had any say in the matter, it would put the same games on every night.

Essentially the TV people see an 8 team league (NFC East, Steelers, Patriots, Packers, wherever Peyton plays).

That is the only group of teams that the television people want to showcase.

The NFL is not as bad as Major League BasekeesSox, but the same principle holds up.

They cringe in terror of teams like Cincinnati and Kansas City having good records.

The NFC East might not produce the best teams, but the division produces MONEY.

It's the NFL. People are going to tune in regardless. Obviously the networks are biased toward specific teams, but mixing it up more is not going to hurt the NFL financially one bit.
 

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What I dont understand is why people would truly rather watch an irrelevant game over one with playoff implications simply because of the markets involved. The fans of those teams are going to watch anyways, why not give the country a better show?
 

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Because the teams with playoff implications are both bad (and boring) teams.
 

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Because the teams with playoff implications are both bad teams.

No, the bad teams playing each other are bad teams. The playoff contenders playing each other are playoff contenders.

I think you may need a proofreader for your posts.
 

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You may not care, but plenty of people would care. Although I disagree, I do understand you logic.

And I get why you want to take a shot at the Cardinals, but this thread isn't about how the Cardinals have owned the Cowboys in recent history so I wont go down that path.....

You really want to see Skins/Giants? Did you see the Skins on Monday night? The fact that that excites you more than two potential playoff teams is interesting. Especially considering you are neck and neck with the Eagles for the division.

I agree AZ is not a big market, and of course I am a biased toward the Cardinals, but AZ & Philly are two of the hottest teams in football. And there are marquee players on both teams. The ratings would be just as good, if not better.

won last 3 meetings, now only trail by 20 games :)

Yes, i want to see the skins game. They get their doors blown off like last night, and that is FUN to watch. They blow the Giants out of the water, FUN to watch. They end in a tie, FUN to watch.

And I still disagree that the ratings would be as good.
 

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The matchup shown is bad teams as well, but when 3/4 of the league is within a game of a playoff berth, being a "contender" doesn't mean you're not a bad team. The bad teams televised are at least big market bad teams.
 

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No, the bad teams playing each other are bad teams. The playoff contenders playing each other are playoff contenders.

I think you may need a proofreader for your posts.

Doesn't matter if the Giants and Skins are winless. More people will watch those two teams because they have more fans and more people that care.

If they keep sucking and the Cardinals run off a few postseason runs, that will change. Look at new Orleans. They will get more primetime when possible because they are exciting and good, have been for a few years now. New England used to suck the big one, know they have won a lot and will get a lot of primetime games.
 

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Doesn't matter if the Giants and Skins are winless. More people will watch those two teams because they have more fans and more people that care.

If they keep sucking and the Cardinals run off a few postseason runs, that will change. Look at new Orleans. They will get more primetime when possible because they are exciting and good, have been for a few years now. New England used to suck the big one, know they have won a lot and will get a lot of primetime games.

Personally, I want to watch relevant games.

I'm a Seahawks fan, and since they have played many irrelevant games over the years I always understood why they didn't get prime time love.

But as a pure football fan, I want to watch games that are ultimately going to define this year's SB champ. I guess that's just our society, it takes us a few years to catch up.
 

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Personally, I want to watch relevant games.

I'm a Seahawks fan, and since they have played many irrelevant games over the years I always understood why they didn't get prime time love.

But as a pure football fan, I want to watch games that are ultimately going to define this year's SB champ. I guess that's just our society, it takes us a few years to catch up.

I don't think SF, STL, Cincy, or SD are going to figure into the SB Champ picture. :noidea:

So go wtih what brings in the most money :)
 

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won last 3 meetings, now only trail by 20 games :)

Yes, i want to see the skins game. They get their doors blown off like last night, and that is FUN to watch. They blow the Giants out of the water, FUN to watch. They end in a tie, FUN to watch.

And I still disagree that the ratings would be as good.

Wouldn't the Cardinals blowing the doors off the Eagles be fun to watch? I get it might not be so fun if the Eagles pound the Cardinals, but part of what makes football so exciting is the unknown.
 

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That statement deserves a fucking headslap!

Maybe your franchise should suck less if they want respect. They don't get televised because they aren't making the playoffs and no one cares.
 

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Maybe your franchise should suck less if they want respect. They don't get televised because they aren't making the playoffs and no one cares.

Maybe your argument should suck less. Your "crystal ball" logic is ridiculous and no one cares.
 

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It's why they're not getting shown. Because people don't care.
 

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If the NFL honestly cared about the markets why would they use the flex schedule? The whole point of the flex schedule had absolutely nothing to do with markets but the flex schedule is supposed to be used to give the fans an important game that would have an impact on the playoffs race.

You think the NFL doesn't care about markets? What, the networks/NFL are in this business out of charity? No, it's a BUSINESS, and the networks/NFL are in this to make money.

Flexing has always been about money.

Teams in contention for the playoffs generate higher TV ratings than they normally would if they were not in the playoffs. This "playoff ratings bounce" may or may not be enough to push them above a normally higher TV market. If the networks/NFL believe the playoff ratings bounce for the matchup is sufficiently high, they will flex that game over normally higher-market teams, but if they think the playoff ratings bounce isn't high enough to be above the matchup with the larger markets, they won't. It's as simple as that. It has always been about the money.
 

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It's why they're not getting shown. Because people don't care.

You might want to stop digging, because you are sounding more and more like an idiot with every post.

With over 3 million people in Philly and Phoenix, I can assure you, plenty of people care.
 

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You think the NFL doesn't care about markets? What, the networks/NFL are in this business out of charity? No, it's a BUSINESS, and the networks/NFL are in this to make money.

Flexing has always been about money.

Teams in contention for the playoffs generate higher TV ratings than they normally would if they were not in the playoffs. This "playoff ratings bounce" may or may not be enough to push them above a normally higher TV market. If the networks/NFL believe the playoff ratings bounce for the matchup is sufficiently high, they will flex that game over normally higher-market teams, but if they think the playoff ratings bounce isn't high enough to be above the matchup with the larger markets, they won't. It's as simple as that. It has always been about the money.

The way you increase revenue is by expanding to create revenues in additional markets across the country. It's a formula that has worked since before the industrial revolution. The east coast markets are already solid. The NFL isn't generating significantly more money by keeping games in the those markets. If you think they are, you have something to learn about big business. If you hype up other teams who are actually playing for something in other parts of the country, you will create a larger national buzz hence increasing revenues on a national level.

The reason they didn't flex this game is because they thought if the Giants and Skins win, they still have a chance at the playoffs considering the NFC East is such a pile of crap. Millions of people care in the other markets. I'm one of them.
 

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Lol at the lack of understanding for economics and market sizes in this thread. These teams are dreadful but will outdraw any othe options presented here.

Outdraw in what capacity? You think people in those markets aren't going to tune in if it was the other teams discussed?
 
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