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Haha! You might be right. Gotta prop up that SEC. But for real, ND is a real problem right now. If you can, watch the last snap of the game. Cal should have been lining up to tie the game on an extra point. I’m worried because they look like a team that’s poorly coached. On that Hail Mary, every level of football teaches kids to knock the ball down. High point it and drive the ball into the ground. Player 1 goes for a pick. Deflects directly up into the air. Another player tries to intercept the deflection instead of driving the ball to the ground. Ball falls right into the arms of the Cal player and he was so surprised he flubbed it. The QB could get beat out by the Philadelphia CYO All Star game starting QB. The communication by the offensive line straight stinks. It’s 5 individuals playing and not 5 guys working like a unit. Blown protections left and right. Poor execution of zone blocking schemes. It’s a real mess.
Like Freeman and pulling as much as I can for a ND person to succeed, but for sure does not look good right now.

as to the "knock it down"? Everyone is taught this and even those who play for elite of elite coaches are selfish and go for the pick.
 

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Sure helps in the ALC no doubt but if we replaced St. Louis in the NLC good shot we'd win that division. If we replaced Houston in the ALW good chance we'd win that division.

Can we play this in football and say the Browns likely would have won the NFCE in either of the last 2 seasons?
You can do whatever you like. My point is just that the Indians are the tallest midget in the AL Central. The reality is that they wouldn’t be a playoff team in any other circumstance than being in the AL Central.

They’re 39-26 vs the AL Central and 40-40 vs the rest of baseball.
 

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Even though saves can only be registered with a 3 run lead or less, many managers use the magic number of 4 runs accounting for the grand slam possibility. At a minimum, with a lead in the division, the Indians needed a split of the DH yesterday. Maybe the thinking in Game 1 is let’s go lock this one down and whatever we get out of the nightcap is bonus. Who knows what he really weighed in his decision but it worked out for the squad in the end.
That's what I was thinking. also didn't want to put in a reliever who may have needed to be replaced as we had a DH with Pilkington going in game 2. I'm sure if he knew Pilkington would go so long and pitch so well he might have held back Clase.

I'll add one reason I love Tito as a manager when in general, as said, I think managing is overrated, is he will go against the norm. His strategy in the 2016 playoffs with the pen was a masterpiece. Most managers would have just saved Miller for the 8th and gone with allen in the 9th. He used Miller as a weapon and pitched him when he thought it would be the most high leverage situation.

In general, I think managers should do that more with closers. Idea the guy who is usually your best pitcher can only pitch the 9th with a 1-3 run lead is absurd.
 

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Like Freeman and pulling as much as I can for a ND person to succeed, but for sure does not look good right now.

as to the "knock it down"? Everyone is taught this and even those who play for elite of elite coaches are selfish and go for the pick.
Totally get that. But great coaches convey that message in such a way where it doesn’t happen.
 

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You can do whatever you like. My point is just that the Indians are the tallest midget in the AL Central. The reality is that they wouldn’t be a playoff team in any other circumstance than being in the AL Central.

They’re 39-26 vs the AL Central and 40-40 vs the rest of baseball.
You keep saying that but it's not factually correct. They couldn't win the NLC or NLW if they replaced St. Louis or Houston? ALE, NLE or NLW I agree they'd likely go home after reg.

as for Browns, woohoo!!! 2 added division titles!!
 

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My biggest win was an 8 teamer three years ago with baseball and the NFL. Made $1200 on a $5 play. Like a scratch off ticket.
Hit a 6 teamer in college. would have been nice now but a lot for a college kid (think it was $350?). Last team I needed was Cinci. Needed a shower after cheering for them.
 

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You keep saying that but it's not factually correct. They couldn't win the NLC or NLW if they replaced St. Louis or Houston? ALE, NLE or NLW I agree they'd likely go home after reg.

as for Browns, woohoo!!! 2 added division titles!!
You got me. If you started extracting the best teams from certain divisions and essentially turn them into a different version of essentially the AL Central, the Indians could be the tallest midget in a division you rigged by taking the best team out of that division.
 

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You got me. If you started extracting the best teams from certain divisions and essentially turn them into a different version of essentially the AL Central, the Indians could be the tallest midget in a division you rigged by taking the best team out of that division.
what do you think you'd do if they were in those divisions? Have a division with 6 teams and another with 4?

Would you like to take away the playoff appearances by St. Louis and Houston as the tallest midgets (especially Houston)?
 

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what do you think you'd do if they were in those divisions? Have a division with 6 teams and another with 4?

Would you like to take away the playoff appearances by St. Louis and Houston as the tallest midgets (especially Houston)?
No because I’ve seen them play baseball this season and they’re both legit playoff caliber teams. The Astros may actually be the best team in baseball and St Louis has one of the top 5 organizations in all of baseball. The middle of the Cards order may be the best in baseball. They probably wouldn’t change the size of the division. But what does that have to do with you conveniently taking the best team in each of those divisions out? I didn’t think what I said was really that argumentative. The Indians will make the playoffs because the rules indicate that division winners make the playoffs. The Indians aren’t of the caliber of these other playoff teams. They will likely have the worst win percentage out of the 14 playoff teams. In fact, it’s possible that there will be teams with a better winning percentage that won’t make the playoffs.
 

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No because I’ve seen them play baseball this season and they’re both legit playoff caliber teams. The Astros may actually be the best team in baseball and St Louis has one of the top 5 organizations in all of baseball. The middle of the Cards order may be the best in baseball. They probably wouldn’t change the size of the division. But what does that have to do with you conveniently taking the best team in each of those divisions out? I didn’t think what I said was really that argumentative. The Indians will make the playoffs because the rules indicate that division winners make the playoffs. The Indians aren’t of the caliber of these other playoff teams. They will likely have the worst win percentage out of the 14 playoff teams. In fact, it’s possible that there will be teams with a better winning percentage that won’t make the playoffs.
doesn't it seem fair if they are switching divisions as the first place team they'd replace the other first place team of the division they'd be going into?

I agree in 3 of the divisions they are very likely to be home for the playoffs. Maybe a certainty. In the ALW and NLC I'm not as certain. sure, if you replace one of the bad teams with the 1st place Tribe then they have much less of a chance in those divisions but how does that make sense?

Couple of weeks ago I'd have given the Tribe no shot to get past the divisional round (if they get out of WC) but now I'm not as sure. Their top 3 pitchers can match most teams. If healthy and needs to go Civale a solid #4. Not much power but I doubt anyone would be excited to face our best lineup every day as they hustle their asses off (and can play).
 

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I didn't think we'd win 80 but to be fair, as you know he still takes crap for saying Miami would go down early the year they made it to the Finals in the bubble.....when most thought they'd go down early (including Heat fans).

He takes crap for a lot of the shit he posts.

But he has also posted some truly outlandish stuff and been wrong in spectacular fashion.

Like when he said he would castrate himself if Javale McGee averaged double figures for the Lakers.

A post like that is worthy of reposting.

Being wrong about how many games a team will win?

Please.

Everybody gets stuff wrong. Absolutely nothing notable about that.
 

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doesn't it seem fair if they are switching divisions as the first place team they'd replace the other first place team of the division they'd be going into?

I agree in 3 of the divisions they are very likely to be home for the playoffs. Maybe a certainty. In the ALW and NLC I'm not as certain. sure, if you replace one of the bad teams with the 1st place Tribe then they have much less of a chance in those divisions but how does that make sense?

Couple of weeks ago I'd have given the Tribe no shot to get past the divisional round (if they get out of WC) but now I'm not as sure. Their top 3 pitchers can match most teams. If healthy and needs to go Civale a solid #4. Not much power but I doubt anyone would be excited to face our best lineup every day as they hustle their asses off (and can play).
No. It doesn’t seem fair. It’s putting lipstick on a pig. You’re rigging a hypothetical to create the exact same circumstances. If your argument is that the ALC is on par with the ALW and NLC then fine. Those three teams have the identical circumstance and the Indians are clearly the worst in the bunch.

It’s baseball and you’re right that anything can happen in a 3 game baseball series. That’s especially true when rules will prop up a lesser team and give them home field in that 3 game series vs a more accomplished team with a better winning percentage having played in a better division to boot.

What happens in that 3 game series will neither detract from nor support either of our arguments. In closing, the Indians will be the worst team in the MLB playoffs based upon a 162 game schedule, the most thorough data point in all of the major sports.
 

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I keep giving you chances, Tom Brady.

You keep disappointing me. Get your head out of your ass.
 
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