Series Thread: NBA Finals. Cleveland vs. Golden State...

[Montalban]

Of course you wouldn't know.
They didn't freak out, they ran out of gas, much like the Cavs did. NO ONE could buy a basket in those final few minutes. If you're gonna tell it tell it right.SMH

Hey, I saw what I saw.

 

[DirtDirtDirt]

Well, didn't LBJ form the first supertramp in Miami?

He is the reason its a superteam, Bosh and Wade would have been the Atlanta Hawks without Lebron

 

[LAD]

Hey, I saw what I saw.

Just like you saw Hou winning the West?

 

[LAD]

He is the reason its a superteam, Bosh and Wade would have been the Atlanta Hawks without Lebron

Did he or did he not LEAVE his team to join Wade's??

 

[bksballer89]

Well, didn't LBJ form the first superteam in Miami?

Boston was a superteam before which was the only reason Lebron did what he did.

Both he and Wade realized it was the only way to eliminate Boston

 

[LAD]

Boston was a superteam before which was the only reason Lebron did what he did.

Both he and Wade realized it was the only way to eliminate Boston

Hmmmm, KG & PP were still in their prime at the time he went to Miami, or no?

Also, Kobe didn't need a superteam to beat that Bos team.

 

[DorianRo]

Boston was getting old. They weren't really a superteam after '08

 

[msgkings322]

Well, didn't LBJ form the first superteam in Miami?

I dunno, the 80s Lakers were maybe the first true 'superteam'. Maybe 80s Celtics too. 90s Bulls. 2008 Celtics. There have been others.

 

[bksballer89]

Hmmmm, KG & PP were still in their prime at the time he went to Miami, or no?

Also, Kobe didn't need a superteam to beat that Bos team.

Yes they both were.

Kobe had Pau Gasol who was much better than the next best player on James Cleveland teams and Wade Miami teams before LBJ came to Miami

 

[bksballer89]

I dunno, the 80s Lakers were maybe the first true 'superteam'. Maybe 80s Celtics too. 90s Bulls. 2008 Celtics. There have been others.

Yeah....Saying Miami was the first superteam is just not true

 

[msgkings322]

Hey, I saw what I saw.

No you saw what you wanted to see not what happened.

 

[LAD]

Yes they both were.

Kobe had Pau Gasol who was much better than the next best player on James Cleveland teams and Wade Miami teams before LBJ came to Miami

#SoundsLikeExcusesToMe

For the record, Pau couldn't even win playoff game without Kobe.

 

[Golden Spur]

Well when that player is the co-GOAT kinda yeah, pretty amazing. The Warriors had to form a superteam to beat him. Jordan never faced a superteam. Imagine him in the Finals vs Utah, but add David Robinson to the team. Or Drexler. Something like that.

Jordan had way more help. In different iterations him, Pippen, Rodman, (<-HOF's) then Cartwright, Longley, Kukoc, Ron Harper, Kerr, and others. The situations aren't comparable.

 

[bksballer89]

#SoundsLikeExcusesToMe

Name a player on Miami or Cleveland better than Pau Gasol from 2008-2010 not named Wade or James.

I'll wait

 

[msgkings322]

Jordan had way more help. In different iterations him, Pippen, Rodman, (<-HOF's) then Cartwright, Longley, Kukoc, Ron Harper, Kerr, and others. The situations aren't comparable.

Yes I know, that's why LeBron is co-GOAT even though he's 3-6 vs Jordan 6-0. He's done more with less, been the underdog in almost every Finals, etc.

 

[DorianRo]

Who played with more all-stars/HOFers ? MJ or Lebron. Lebron hasn't done more with less. Hes done less with MORE actually.



Hell, I wish MJ could have gotten end of prime Shaq, Prime Wade, Past Prime Allen, Prime Irving, Prime Love, Prime Bosh and a host of 3 point sharpshooters, WHILE playing in a far inferior Eastern Conference..

By the time Rodman got to Chicago he was past his prime. MJ never had a big man to play with that was very good. And Pips was the only prime HOFer he ever played with.

If MJ could have had such easy routes to the finals, anything could have happened

 

[LAD]

Name a player on Miami or Cleveland better than Pau Gasol from 2008-2010 not named Wade or James.

I'll wait

No, they just wanted the path of least resistance & teamed up. Kobe battled with a robin against Boston's superteam-as you put it- and got the victory.
Wade did the same thing with old arse Shaq. What did LBJ do? Joined a superteam.

 

[bksballer89]

Who played with more all-stars? MJ or Lebron. Lebron hasn't done more with less. Hes done less with MORE actually.



Hell, I wish MJ could have gotten end of prime Shaq, Prime Wade, Past Prime Allen, Prime Irving, Prime Love, Prime Bosh and a host of 3 point sharpshooters, WHILE playing in a far inferior Eastern Conference.

Shaq wasn't at the end of his prime in Cleveland. His prime was long gone.

Also he only had 2 years of prime Wade.

Also unlike Jordan, the teams he had to face in the finals were much better.

2013/2014 Spurs were better than the Utah/Seattle teams....and obviously the Warriors teams were better as well.

 

[bksballer89]

No, they just wanted the path of least resistance & teamed up. Kobe battled with a robin against Boston's superteam-as you put it- and got the victory.
Wade did the same thing with old arse Shaq. What did LBJ do? Joined a superteam.

The Lakers team was a pretty stacked roster.

We seen what Kobe does when he plays with mediocre players.....He doesn't make the playoffs.

 

[DorianRo]

Shaq wasn't at the end of his prime in Cleveland. His prime was long gone.

Also he only had 2 years of prime Wade.

Also unlike Jordan, the teams he had to face in the finals were much better.

2013/2014 Spurs were better than the Utah/Seattle teams....and obviously the Warriors teams were better as well.

If you come out the east on teams Lebron has played with mostly since 2010, you should have more in the tank then your opponent who by default is gonna have a tougher road to the finals since the teams are more playoff quality.

MJ in a finals anything can happen. Plus MJ would be more well-rested as he wouldn't have to deal with quality east teams like he had to in the 90s