Nate Silver does the math: SGA is playing like MJ

[msgkings322]

wish you were not so scared to answer my question so I could read what I'm sure are some pearls of wisdom from you that I just know are completely rational and objective with no MJ slant.

One of you guys that isn't blocked by @Mr. Friscus should sic him on @MAGA2024

They have very similar pedantic and detailed posting styles but from opposite directions (MAGA is "pro" MJ, Friscus is "anti"), they should be the ones battling here

Both are MAGAs too so that variable isn't relevant lol, it's not political for them

 

[dtgold88]

Again... I answered your question two (2) times already. I won't waste MY time answering it a thrid time.

Told you I stopped reading if you did not START your reply by answering it....but did decide to find it and did. You started off OK by acknowledging the obvious but then went into your MJ biased comments.

Happen to agree was 1 time Lebron had a rough series against a team they should have beaten. But most were against incredibly tough opponents and few like Seattle, Portland, Utah, etc.who were teams that did not win titles in other seasons.

and of course can you name the time when MJ ever dragged a team TO the Finals without top 75 all time player Pippen to hold his hand? Lebron dragged a team with Mo Williams as 2nd best player to Finals and won 2 Finals games with Delevadova as his Robin. MJ ever even win a playoff series with no Pippen?

 

[dtgold88]

The East during the 90's was still vastly superior to the East during LeBron's run.

Cool...but MJs last years were in the 2000s and the best team in East his first year with Washington there was the juggernaut Nets with a 52-30 record. The next year was Detroit with their 50-32 record (only team with 50 wins).

Far better East?

I realize this is not likely for someone as irrational as you but possible you might man up and own you were wrong?

 

[tlance]

So go ahead and refute what I wrote about LeBron, if you think my points are so one-sided.

The simple truth is there's no argument for LeBron James over Jordan. None.

As players LeBron has several flaws: Below league-average FT shooter... below league-average 3-point shooter... shoots just 38% from beyond 3 feet from the basket for his career (36% in the playoffs)... inconsistent to mediocre to just plain bad Defense for at least the past 10 years... handles and footwork never great, etc., etc. Jordan? The absolute WORST thing you could say about him is that he was "just average" as a 3-point shooter (relative to league average). Otherwise he was excellent to elite to GOAT level in literally every facet of the game.

As for Team Success Jordan won every single time his team was favored/supposed to win, and/or had the higher seed AND several times he won as the lower seed. James, as has been noted, lost numerous times when he shouldn't have.

What's left? LeBron is the GOAT because he played longer and racked up better "volume" stats? Um, no... so did Kobe, Jabbar, Malone, etc.

You disagree? state your case.

I have.

You just ignored it.

Saying there is no argument for LeBron is absolutely ridiculous.

And like all the objective people on here say all the time…

Pick either one, make your case. Can’t be wrong.

Say it isn’t close?

You are definitively wrong.

 

[dtgold88]

I have.

You just ignored it.

Saying there is no argument for LeBron is absolutely ridiculous.

And like all the objective people on here say all the time…

Pick either one, make your case. Can’t be wrong.

Say it isn’t close?

You are definitively wrong.

Yep...always say only ones I push back on are those who say shouldn't even be a discussion. On either side. Though don't find many who think GOAT is Lebron who say not even a discussion I don't think.