Series Thread: M's @ Oakland Aug 19-21

[NWinAZ]

Can we start the chant now...M-A-R-C-O S-U-C-K-O

 

[NWinAZ]

THE BAD OF HAGGERTY IN THE OUTFIELD...HE HAS AN INFIELD ARM.(sorry cap locks were on)

 

[Duders]

Well I said it before and I will say it again AND again. The Mariners are really good at playing to the levell of their competition. That's got to be changed if they want keep playing ball into October.

 

[Duders]

THE BAD OF HAGGERTY IN THE OUTFIELD...HE HAS AN INFIELD ARM.(sorry cap locks were on)

Came through loud and clear.....

 

[NWinAZ]

Blowers just made every fans point without knowing it. He said back in his day they put up an 'L' screen and batters would try to hit knowing that balls back up the middle were hits. It was a practiced art. Now hitting the other way is open but all I hear is they can't just adjust that way. Huh? If you could train to do it one way, you can train to do it another...but you have to want to.

 

[WizardHawk]

Haggerty

 

[NWinAZ]

THE BAD OF HAGGERTY IN THE OUTFIELD...HE HAS AN INFIELD ARM.(sorry cap locks were on)

And of course he has his best throw ever to home...

 

[WizardHawk]

And of course he has his best throw ever to home...

Off line, but got it there fast

 

[NWinAZ]

Off line, but got it there fast

I would still like a legit OF or 2 next year. No more infielders. No more prospects given the job. Free agent semi-stud OF's.

 

[WizardHawk]

Geno having a night

 

[WizardHawk]

To be fair, if their ss didn't botch a fairly routine dp chance, that HR doesn't come this inning with 2 on.

 

[WizardHawk]

Boston scores 10 runs tonight

But the orioles score 15

 

[WizardHawk]

All 10 batters tonight have at least 1 hit.

 

[wazzu31]

And of course he has his best throw ever to home...

Arm isn’t the issue with him or any IF in the OF. It is tracking the ball off the bat. Barry Bonds had a noodle arm but was considered a great OF. Shit look at Franklin Gutierrez, nothing great at all about him defensively except he was great at recognizing the ball off the bat.

 

[NWinAZ]

 

[NWinAZ]

Arm isn’t the issue with him or any IF in the OF. It is tracking the ball off the bat. Barry Bonds had a noodle arm but was considered a great OF. Shit look at Franklin Gutierrez, nothing great at all about him defensively except he was great at recognizing the ball off the bat.

Disagree. Those are two separate issues and either can kill a team. Haggerty's arm has been light and offline all year. His tracking is ok for a covered infielder, but would love a true outfielder with the whole defensive game.

If you watch Moore in the outfield he throws a lot of balls like an infielder using short stroke when a true outfielder throws with full motion and body. I could throw rockets from the outfield back in my high school days, but had a weak infield and pitching arm. Two totally different motions.

 

[WizardHawk]

All 10 batters tonight have at least 1 hit.

Make that 11 batters now all with hits.

 

[WizardHawk]

13 overall hits. 2 guys had 2 hits and 9 had 1. You don't see that very often.

 

[WizardHawk]

 

[wazzu31]

Disagree. Those are two separate issues and either can kill a team. Haggerty's arm has been light and offline all year. His tracking is ok for a covered infielder, but would love a true outfielder with the whole defensive game.

If you watch Moore in the outfield he throws a lot of balls like an infielder using short stroke when a true outfielder throws with full motion and body. I could throw rockets from the outfield back in my high school days, but had a weak infield and pitching arm. Two totally different motions.

I don’t disagree at all, I was just saying I don’t think the arm is that big of a deal. Definitely not saying Haggerty is a good OF, I was just saying arm isn’t a big deal if he/or anyone, can be great with angles and reading the ball. Getting a good jump on the ball is the primary reason IF’s blow when playing the OF. Adam Jones being a terrible CF when he transitioned from being a SS is what made him “expandable” but he had only done it for a year and a half.