Monty Williams has been fired.......

[shopson67]

I stand corrected. I don't think I watched a minute of Detroit basketball except when the Wolves played them.

Nobody outside of Detroit did (or even a lot within Detroit for that matter). It was a real shit show. They do have a few nice pieces, but hard to tell what they were trying to do unless it was a not-so-stealth tank job.

 

[thunderc]

Man, what the hell did Monty do to get shit-canned a year later? He's laughing all the way to the bank, but give the guy more than a year.

Detroit is a horrible organization

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Nobody outside of Detroit did (or even a lot within Detroit for that matter). It was a real shit show. They do have a few nice pieces, but hard to tell what they were trying to do unless it was a not-so-stealth tank job.

Like was pointed out many times by logic and I Detroit would get out to a lead or be competitive and then Monty would roll out his all bench lineup that would get absolutely housed and they'd be down 10 to 15. Only on a few occasions did he not do this such as when they had so many injuries or traded players and they actually won 2 out of 3 in a stretch where they had like 8 guys. Any opposing coach knew all they had to do was stagger their lineups and they would blow out Detroits bench.

No one else in the organization was in on the tank job except Monty else they'd have traded Bojan much faster.

Lost on anyone who isn't a Pistons fan is their core lineup actually outscored the opposition.

 

[logic]

Like was pointed out many times by logic and I Detroit would get out to a lead or be competitive and then Monty would roll out his all bench lineup that would get absolutely housed and they'd be down 10 to 15. Only on a few occasions did he not do this such as when they had so many injuries or traded players and they actually won 2 out of 3 in a stretch where they had like 8 guys. Any opposing coach knew all they had to do was stagger their lineups and they would blow out Detroits bench.

No one else in the organization was in on the tank job except Monty else they'd have traded Bojan much faster.

Lost on anyone who isn't a Pistons fan is their core lineup actually outscored the opposition.

I'd like to add that although Troy Weaver had issues and his firing was justified, he was far more of a fall guy than Monty. Troy was quoted as saying he would have balanced the roster far earlier if had been allowed. He was regularly undermined by ownership and factions in the organization, which is the major reason Detroit has been a shit show. Whereas, Monty was just so flat out bad that it appeared as if he was actually trying to get fired.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

I'd like to add that although Troy Weaver had issues and his firing was justified, he was far more of a fall guy than Monty. Troy was quoted as saying he would have balanced the roster far earlier if had been allowed. He was regularly undermined by ownership and factions in the organization, which is the major reason Detroit has been a shit show. Whereas, Monty was just so flat out bad that it appeared as if he was actually trying to get fired.

Monty didn't seem to have a real plan. Started out with benching Ivey for poor defense but didn't have the same standard for others. Kept rolling out Livers to the dismay of everyone to the point that Weaver dealt him just so Monty would stop playing him. Same deal with Hayes.. relied on a bad fit player when the goal was to build around others.

Weaver definitely made a lot of mistakes but this roster was not a 14 win team. Monty managed to put forth the worst coaching job in NBA history.

 

[shopson67]

Monty didn't seem to have a real plan. Started out with benching Ivey for poor defense but didn't have the same standard for others. Kept rolling out Livers to the dismay of everyone to the point that Weaver dealt him just so Monty would stop playing him. Same deal with Hayes.. relied on a bad fit player when the goal was to build around others.

Weaver definitely made a lot of mistakes but this roster was not a 14 win team. Monty managed to put forth the worst coaching job in NBA history.

Sounds like Ham, but to a higher degree. Overused Prince and Reddish due to perceived play concerns with other players (that didn't carry over to them somehow). With Ham though, he simply leaned on the guys he had prior history with. Not the same level of prospect necessarily, but Christie lost a lot of development minutes to Prince and Reddish.

 

[Stakesarehigh]

Sounds like Ham, but to a higher degree. Overused Prince and Reddish due to perceived play concerns with other players (that didn't carry over to them somehow). With Ham though, he simply leaned on the guys he had prior history with. Not the same level of prospect necessarily, but Christie lost a lot of development minutes to Prince and Reddish.

Ham was a poor coach for other reasons altogether for sure. But similar issues with lineup construction