MLB Dynasty Draft II Championship : Nos vs UK

[Nosferatu]

NOS

LINEUP
1. Rickey Henderson - LF (R)
2. Ty Cobb - CF (L)
3. Frank Thomas - DH (R)
4. Jimmie Foxx - 1B (R)
5. Eddie Mathews - 3B (L)
6. Roy Campanella - C (R)
7. Ernie Banks - SS (R)
8. Paul Waner - RF (L)
9. Charlie Gehringer - 2B (L)

BENCH
Willie McCovey - 1B/DH (L)
Dave Winfield - RF/DH (R)
Lou Brock - LF/PR (L)
Frankie Frisch - 2B/3B (S)
Joe Torre - C (R)

ROTATION
1. Pedro Martinez (R)
2. Lefty Grove (L)
3. Nolan Ryan (R)
4. Whitey Ford (L)
5. Roy Halladay (R)

BULLPEN
CL - Tom Henke (R)
RP - Dan Quisenberry (R)
RP - Jeff Reardon (R)
RP - Willie Hernandez (L)
RP - Gary Lavelle (L)

VS

UK

LINEUP
1. Tim Raines - LF (S)
2. Tris Speaker - CF (L)
3. Rogers Hornsby - 2B (R)
4. Albert Pujols - 1B (R)
5. Manny Ramirez - DH (R)
6. Wade Boggs - 3B (L)
7. Roberto Clemente - RF (R)
8. Mike Piazza - C (R)
9. Robin Yount - SS (R)

BENCH
Paul Molitor - 2B/3B (R)
Rafael Palmeiro - 1B/DH (L)
Andre Dawson - RF/CF (R)
Yadier Molina - C (R)
Joe Sewell - SS/3B (L)

ROTATION
1. Walter Johnson (R)
2. Christy Mathewson (R)
3. Clayton Kershaw (L)
4. Greg Maddux (R)
5. Johan Santana (L)

BULLPEN
CL - Aroldis Chapman (L)
RP - Bruce Sutter (R)
RP - Jonathan Papelbon (R)
RP - Dave Righetti (L)
RP - Bobby Shantz (L)

 

[Nosferatu]

NOS = 2
UK = 4

VOTED = Milk, Ritz, Nos, UK, 500, WLK

 

[MilkSpiller22]

tough matchup... between 2 great teams...

What I dislike the most about UKs offense is Wade Boggs... He just does not fit at all in this lineup... But that is really my biggest problem with his team... and that really isn't too much... I would still have to go UK, just because his pitching staff is better...

so UK wins... slightly...

I think in a draft like this Nolan Ryan is probably the worst SP to own... the last thing you want in these games is a pitcher who walks batters, even if they are amazing...

 

[Ritzarmy]

UK I had him second to me in rankings

 

[Nosferatu]

Lineup = Nos
Rotation = UK
Bench = Nos
Pen = Nos

Everything is so close, I went with me in the pen because i'll take Henke over Chapman. I went with me on bench although I think we probably have the top 2 benches I just like my 5 a little more. His rotation is better however its not as if mine sucks. I think I have the perfect lineup and it's more balanced than any in this draft.

I vote me...

 

[Nosferatu]

tough matchup... between 2 great teams...

What I dislike the most about UKs offense is Wade Boggs... He just does not fit at all in this lineup... But that is really my biggest problem with his team... and that really isn't too much... I would still have to go UK, just because his pitching staff is better...

so UK wins... slightly...

I think in a draft like this Nolan Ryan is probably the worst SP to own... the last thing you want in these games is a pitcher who walks batters, even if they are amazing...

He can walk a batter per inning being he allowed less hits per 9 than any pitcher in the history of the game and then theres those strikeouts...

 

[UK Cowboy]

I actually think this matchup is better for me. I think I have the better starting pitching no doubt, slightly edge in pen and bench. Smittty and 500 just had insane lineups, and while Nos lineup may be a little better, it's much closer. I think my top 2 aren't as goodbut very similar to his top of the order, but I'd take my 3 hole all day

UK

 

[UK Cowboy]

He can walk a batter per inning being he allowed less hits per 9 than any pitcher in the history of the game and then theres those strikeouts...

I thought you had Ryan overrated last draft too? No?

 

[Pack 500]

There are no issues with Ryan as a third starter here. With that said still gotta go UK

 

[Nosferatu]

I thought you had Ryan overrated last draft too? No?

Someone said top 5 I said no top 10 maybe top 15 without question.

 

[UK Cowboy]

Someone said top 5 I said no top 10 maybe top 15 without question.

Totally agree

 

[Nosferatu]

I actually think this matchup is better for me. I think I have the better starting pitching no doubt, slightly edge in pen and bench. Smittty and 500 just had insane lineups, and while Nos lineup may be a little better, it's much closer. I think my top 2 aren't as goodbut very similar to his top of the order, but I'd take my 3 hole all day

UK

Not sure how you figure your bench is better. Starting pitching better no doubt? I just don't see it as a landslide you obviously do.

ERA+ : SO/9

Johnson 147 : Johnson 5.3 :
Pedro 154 : Pedro 10.0

Mathewson 135 : 4.7
Grove 148 : 5.2

Kershaw 148 : 9.6
Ryan 112 : 9.5

Maddux 132 : 6.1
Ford 133 : 5.6

Santana 136 : 8.8
Halladay 131 : 6.9

Closer than most thought I bet...


If we do lineup position by position.

C - UK
1B - Nos
2B - UK
SS - Nos
3B - Nos
LF - Nos
CF - Nos
RF - Nos
DH - Push (Personally i'd take Thomas but it's very close)

My lineup is set up perfectly. Yes your rotation is slightly better but look at mine it's not like I have 5 Ricky Nolasco's. Not sure how you have the edge in the pen either but it's close enough not to argue about.

Hitting beats pitching in these, you will never hear me say anything different.

 

[wlk3]

Had Nos ranked higher sticking with ranking until I get a better handle on these...

 

[UK Cowboy]

Not sure how you figure your bench is better. Starting pitching better no doubt? I just don't see it as a landslide you obviously do.

ERA+ : SO/9

Johnson 147 : Johnson 5.3 :
Pedro 154 : Pedro 10.0

Mathewson 135 : 4.7
Grove 148 : 5.2

Kershaw 148 : 9.6
Ryan 112 : 9.5

Maddux 132 : 6.1
Ford 133 : 5.6

Santana 136 : 8.8
Halladay 131 : 6.9

Closer than most thought I bet...


If we do lineup position by position.

C - UK
1B - Nos
2B - UK
SS - Nos
3B - Nos
LF - Nos
CF - Nos
RF - Nos
DH - Push (Personally i'd take Thomas but it's very close)

My lineup is set up perfectly. Yes your rotation is slightly better but look at mine it's not like I have 5 Ricky Nolasco's. Not sure how you have the edge in the pen either but it's close enough not to argue about.

Hitting beats pitching in these, you will never hear me say anything different.

To

Not sure how you figure your bench is better. Starting pitching better no doubt? I just don't see it as a landslide you obviously do.

ERA+ : SO/9

Johnson 147 : Johnson 5.3 :
Pedro 154 : Pedro 10.0

Mathewson 135 : 4.7
Grove 148 : 5.2

Kershaw 148 : 9.6
Ryan 112 : 9.5

Maddux 132 : 6.1
Ford 133 : 5.6

Santana 136 : 8.8
Halladay 131 : 6.9

Closer than most thought I bet...


If we do lineup position by position.

C - UK
1B - Nos
2B - UK
SS - Nos
3B - Nos
LF - Nos
CF - Nos
RF - Nos
DH - Push (Personally i'd take Thomas but it's very close)

My lineup is set up perfectly. Yes your rotation is slightly better but look at mine it's not like I have 5 Ricky Nolasco's. Not sure how you have the edge in the pen either but it's close enough not to argue about.

Hitting beats pitching in these, you will never hear me say anything different.

You have a good rotation, but you are also spinning it. I could do the same with the lineups
You've got Rickey... I've got Raines
You've got Cobb.....I've got Speaker
You've got FThomas(3hole?) I've got Hornsby
You've got Foxx..I've got Pujols
You've got Matthews...I've got Manny
Getting the picture? I said your lineup might be a little better.....but it's close

 

[Nosferatu]

To

You have a good rotation, but you are also spinning it. I could do the same with the lineups
You've got Rickey... I've got Raines
You've got Cobb.....I've got Speaker
You've got FThomas(3hole?) I've got Hornsby
You've got Foxx..I've got Pujols
You've got Matthews...I've got Manny
Getting the picture? I said your lineup might be a little better.....but it's close

No sure the point, my lineup is better even if only a little and your rotation might be better by even a smaller amount IMO. Honestly I think an argument can be made that my rotation is better.

 

[Nosferatu]

I text Jeffro and Smitty to come vote...

 

[UK Cowboy]

No sure the point, my lineup is better even if only a little and your rotation might be better by even a smaller amount IMO. Honestly I think an argument can be made that my rotation is better.

You have a great rotation. Mine would be favored by Vegas in 5 straight IMO. I could make an argument for my lineup as well. I think Frank Thomas has no business 3 hole, couldn't hold Hornsby's jock. Pujols is every bit of Foxx, and Mannys a better hitter than Matthews. I will check, would bet I've got you on average and on base %

 

[jeffro151]

UK, by a hair. I think both teams have very similar benches, rotations and bullpens, but I think UK's bats could score more runs.

 

[Nosferatu]

Rickey : 297 HRS 1406 STEALS .279 AVG .401 OBP
Cobb : 117 HRS 897 STEALS .366 AVG .433 OBP
Thomas : 521 HRS 32 STEALS .301 AVG .419 OBP
Foxx : 534 HRS 87 STEALS .325 AVG .428 OBP
Mathews : 512 HRS 68 STEALS .271 AVG .376 OBP
Campy : 242 HRS 25 STEALS .276 AVG .360 OBP
Banks : 512 HRS 50 STEALS .274 AVG .330 OBP
Waner : 113 HRS 104 STEALS .333 AVG .404 OBP
Gehringer : 184 HRS 181 STEALS .320 AVG .404 OBP

Raines : 170 HRS 808 STEALS .294 AVG .385 OBP
Speaker : 117 HRS 436 STEALS .345 AVG .428 OBP
Hornsy : 301 HRS 135 STEALS .358 AVG .434 OBP
Pujols : 543 HRS 99 STEALS .316 AVG .401 OBP
Manny : 555 HRS 38 STEALS .312 AVG .411 OBP
Boggs : 118 HRS 24 STEALS .328 AVG .415 OBP
Clemente : 240 HRS 83 STEALS .317 AVG .359 OBP
Piazza : 427 HRS 17 STEALS .308 AVG .377 OBP
Yount : 251 HRS 271 STEALS .285 AVG .342 OBP

 

[Nosferatu]

I'll comment on that later I gotta run.