MLB A Complete Joke

[MrMoJoRisin63]

For years they promoted the use of steroids home run derby's, promoting home run races knowing players were jucing and doing nothing about it because home runs sell tickets. Hell Barry Bonds came into the league at what 165 pounds few years later he is 230 pounds of solid muscle, look at McGuire and Sosa. Now all of a sudden they want to take a hardline. Just seems hypocritical to me.

 

[depraved]

Better late than never? All the other sports do it as well. Just wait one by one each major sport in the US will have to deal with the big PED scandal. Next will probably be the NFL or NBA.

 

[Howie115]

You are correct.... when baseball needed to get fans back to the game after the 1994-95 strikes, they looked the other way during the McGwire-Sosa battle, even though it HAD to be known that both were juicing. Now they decide to take a hard line. I'm actually all for the hard-line stance, but it IS extremely hypocritical.

 

[HammerDown]

I don't get it. "Extremely hypocritical?" So because slavery was once legal, it's extremely hypocritical to outlaw it now? What are they supposed to do?

 

[MrMoJoRisin63]

Better late than never? All the other sports do it as well. Just wait one by one each major sport in the US will have to deal with the big PED scandal. Next will probably be the NFL or NBA.

It may occur on other sports but none promoted it like baseball

 

[MrMoJoRisin63]

I don't get it. "Extremely hypocritical?" So because slavery was once legal, it's extremely hypocritical to outlaw it now? What are they supposed to do?

Is this supposed to be some sort of comparison?


What are they suppose to do, make it clear that they did nothing to combat in the past. Take the blame for failing players for the last 20 years. Pretty simple Selig sets up meeting with ESPN and states. " As the commisioner of baseball I have failed in combating steroid use, our programs and protocalls were not stringent enough we turned a blind eye. From this day forward the league will take a more active and stringent approach to this situation. The league failed the game as much as the players have"

I think this would suffice.

 

[depraved]

It may occur on other sports but none promoted it like baseball

It depends on who we find out used steroids. If in fact Ray Lewis used PED's then yes in a way the NFL has also heavily promoted PED users. If you think other sports don't do the same I think you are lying to yourself. the NFL and NBA would benefit greatly from players doing amazing things that people never thought possible. Just look at the accusations at Adrian Peterson is starting to get. That should be proof enough that people are staring to doubt some of these amazing recovery times are in fact due to great will power. It's a big IF for some of these players, but if huge names in the NFL or NBA come out linked to heavy PED use then won't the NFL and NBA be just as guilty as the MLB. The only reason we don't know about these others sports is because everyone is too focused on baseball at the moment.

 

[HammerDown]

Is this supposed to be some sort of comparison?


What are they suppose to do, make it clear that they did nothing to combat in the past. Take the blame for failing players for the last 20 years. Pretty simple Selig sets up meeting with ESPN and states. " As the commisioner of baseball I have failed in combating steroid use, our programs and protocalls were not stringent enough we turned a blind eye. From this day forward the league will take a more active and stringent approach to this situation. The league failed the game as much as the players have"

I think this would suffice.

It's all Selig's fault. He was twisting their arm while injecting them. Right.

 

[tabascojet]

Is this supposed to be some sort of comparison?


What are they suppose to do, make it clear that they did nothing to combat in the past. Take the blame for failing players for the last 20 years. Pretty simple Selig sets up meeting with ESPN and states. " As the commisioner of baseball I have failed in combating steroid use, our programs and protocalls were not stringent enough we turned a blind eye. From this day forward the league will take a more active and stringent approach to this situation. The league failed the game as much as the players have"

I think this would suffice.

you realize it was the MLBPA that blocked drug testing for years right?

 

[ImSmartherThanYou]

For years they promoted the use of steroids home run derby's, promoting home run races knowing players were jucing and doing nothing about it because home runs sell tickets. Hell Barry Bonds came into the league at what 165 pounds few years later he is 230 pounds of solid muscle, look at McGuire and Sosa. Now all of a sudden they want to take a hardline. Just seems hypocritical to me.

If MLB is a joke for their lack of reaction to PEDs, what does that make the NFL? Louis CK?

 

[ImSmartherThanYou]

It may occur on other sports but none promoted it like baseball

Is this a fucking joke? PED use is far more rampant in the NFL today than it ever was in baseball. It's practically a requirement.

 

[MrMoJoRisin63]

It depends on who we find out used steroids. If in fact Ray Lewis used PED's then yes in a way the NFL has also heavily promoted PED users. If you think other sports don't do the same I think you are lying to yourself. the NFL and NBA would benefit greatly from players doing amazing things that people never thought possible. Just look at the accusations at Adrian Peterson is starting to get. That should be proof enough that people are staring to doubt some of these amazing recovery times are in fact due to great will power. It's a big IF for some of these players, but if huge names in the NFL or NBA come out linked to heavy PED use then won't the NFL and NBA be just as guilty as the MLB. The only reason we don't know about these others sports is because everyone is too focused on baseball at the moment.

I clearly stated that other sports do it but in the case of the NFL there is a testing program which has worked. The NFL at least is taking and have been taking steps to curb usage.

It's all Selig's fault. He was twisting their arm while injecting them. Right.

Oyyyy really? Did I say it was Seligs fault? Did I say he was forcing them to used PEDs? No! Stop reaching, but he also knew full well it was happening enjoying huge profits and did nothing to curb usage. Don't pretend he is innocent to do so is asinine.

you realize it was the MLBPA that blocked drug testing for years right?

You realize the league signed off on that? They did not have to did they?

If MLB is a joke for their lack of reaction to PEDs, what does that make the NFL? Louis CK?

The NFL has had a punishement and testing system in place for years baseball deliberatly avoided that to ensure their profit margins were high.

Is this a fucking joke? PED use is far more rampant in the NFL today than it ever was in baseball. It's practically a requirement.

This is a joke. Really not worthy of a reply

 

[depraved]

MrMojo I get where your coming from and I understand your argument, but if you really think the NFL is innocent and doesn't do the same because they have a testing system that "works" I think you are a bit delusional. Think about it like this, Roger Goddell wants player safety that is his highest priority. At the same time he is pushing for a longer NFL season which puts players at an even greater risk. You really don't think he'd do the same with PED's?

 

[anotheridiot]

If they can get the last 100 million voided on aroids contract, that would take the biggest step in getting this shit out of baseball. you hit them in their pocket books. Now aroid already made (I wont say earned 425 million dollars. His next bonus is passing willie mays on the home run list, 6 more home runs for a 6 million dollar bonus.

He will fight it thru this year, the yankees still wont make the playoffs, he will be blamed for being a distraction, they will uphold a ban for next year at the minimum and his career will be over. He cheated so the yankees should go to court to void his contract and maybe he can finish his career at 40 in japan.

Nobody else tried to sidetrack MLB's investigation. They all took the suspension, known liars like Braun were given more than 50 games. Yesterday a roid lied again after never being suspended even after admitting he could not take the heat of the big contract so cheated so he can feel like he earned his money. Should flat out be banned for life so he never returns.

 

[jdwills126]

IMO MLB did turn a blind eye after the lockout. They could not deal with more bad PR.

But with that being said I think the other major sports did the very same. Football knew, but bigger, faster, stronger players made for a better product. Same with basketball.

MLB has a problem dealing with the players union. Out of all professional sports MLB players probably enjoy the best union protection. If it was not for congress getting involved I doubt that MLB would have the policies they enjoy today.

If any issue is an embarrassment it is the fact Bud Selig will not use the for the good of the game power he has and ban A Rod today.

 

[mcro_rave_2001]

i don't think MLB promoted steroid use, i just think they ignored the use of steroids in the game. Now the public has come out and said this needs to stop so MLB is stepping up and trying to get the cheating to stop. I have no problems with the suspension or how MLB is handling steroids in the game.

 

[ImSmartherThanYou]

The NFL has had a punishement and testing system in place for years baseball deliberatly avoided that to ensure their profit margins were high.

I guess that's a fair point for explaining why the NFL has avoided the controversy, since they got out ahead of the controversy and controlled it, which MLB didn't do. But their testing program is still a pathetic joke, since PED use is rampant throughout every roster. I'm just wondering when it's going to boil over. How can PED use be so offensive in one sport and completely ignored in another? At some point, the writers are going to get bored and decide it's an issue.

 

[ImSmartherThanYou]

IMO MLB did turn a blind eye after the lockout. They could not deal with more bad PR.

But with that being said I think the other major sports did the very same. Football knew, but bigger, faster, stronger players made for a better product. Same with basketball.

MLB has a problem dealing with the players union. Out of all professional sports MLB players probably enjoy the best union protection. If it was not for congress getting involved I doubt that MLB would have the policies they enjoy today.

If any issue is an embarrassment it is the fact Bud Selig will not use the for the good of the game power he has and ban A Rod today.

But it wouldn't have been for the good of the game. It would have been for the good of the Yankees. It's not in baseball's best interest to give one player undue punishment when there are clearly prescribed punishments. That appeal would have gone very poorly for MLB. The punishment would have been overturned, and a lot of information about MLB would have come to light that they don't want people seeing.

 

[jdwills126]

But it wouldn't have been for the good of the game. It would have been for the good of the Yankees. It's not in baseball's best interest to give one player undue punishment when there are clearly prescribed punishments. That appeal would have gone very poorly for MLB. The punishment would have been overturned, and a lot of information about MLB would have come to light that they don't want people seeing.

How is not banishing a major PED user not for the good of the game? It sends a message does it not? The fact it benefits the Yankees is not really Seligs issue other than a strong team in New York helps marketing, but I am not a conspiracy theorist when it comes to helping major markets.

The fact the public does not have all the information and MLB has gone beyond the prescribed punishment tells me that their is more to the story and it does probably embarrass MLB but the alternative is laying down for team A Rod?

I am guessing thats why MLB did so much negotiating. I also find it funny all those players took the penalty without so much as an appeal or denial. 50 games is the first time offense they would have had little insentive to not appeal unless MLB was holding a significant hammer.

 

[depraved]

The fact the public does not have all the information and MLB has gone beyond the prescribed punishment tells me that their is more to the story and it does probably embarrass MLB but the alternative is laying down for team A Rod?

I am guessing thats why MLB did so much negotiating. I also find it funny all those players took the penalty without so much as an appeal or denial. 50 games is the first time offense they would have had little insentive to not appeal unless MLB was holding a significant hammer.

I aggree 100%. There is something the public does not know about this case that these players have been shown. They all laid down easily with no denial and accepted their penalty. Also Aroid's defense in this whole thing is that he should only be banned for 50 games, a first time offense. It doesn't seem that he is denying the allegations against him.