MLB 2000-Present Dynasty Draft Chat

[UK Cowboy]

Now, I am a raw number guy. A few weeks ago I cheered for the Mariners to score 8 runs in an inning so that the two 8 run innings they would've had this season came on dates that combined came out as 8 (5/3; 7/1). I came up with that stat on my own, it wasn't something I heard on the broadcast or read anywhere. They scored 7, and I felt cheated. I suffer from OCD, so I like things to make sense and have tangible evidence. SO, I usually look at things more statistically, cause in the end to me they make sense.

Every line up but 1 hits for over .300, Has an OBP over .370 and slugs for better than .500. Every team hits HRs, every team steals bases, walks, they all pretty much do everything. The problem that I have with that team is that the entire line up isn't anything to write home about except those two hitters. Every team has at least two hitters who've performed at an elite level at their peak.

Here - the #3 hitters for each team left:

152-629-529-121-183-31-2-36-89-2-2-82-94-.346-.436-.616-1.052-326-7-9-0-9-5
133-571-518-95-186-40-3-32-100-8-1-43-95-.359-.411-.633-1.044-328-11-5-1-4-5
159-716-607-97-197-48-9-29-104-26-0-99-127-.325-.420-.577-.997-350-10-5-0-5-9
157-685-591-137-212-51-1-43-124-5-1-79-65-.359-.439-.667-1.106-394-13-10-0-5-12
138-606-523-94-191-30-1-28-96-4-1-76-63-.365-.444-.587-1.031-307-13-2-0-5-14
160-711-604-113-196-42-1-30-107-34-5-94-115-.325-.416-.546-.963-330-14-6-0-7-6

Here's the #4 hitters:

157-685-574-102-177-41-0-33-121-2-0-97-93-.308-.410-.552-.962-317-17-7-0-7-13
162-719-591-103-177-35-3-46-141-2-3-110-138-.299-.412-.602-1.014-356-14-9-0-9-21
162-712-608-105-179-36-2-36-109-14-0-96-181-.294-.395-.538-.932-327-14-6-0-2-26
148-652-555-103-193-26-1-44-137-3-0-90-94-.348-.442-.636-1.078-353-19-5-0-2-19
158-713-636-120-216-50-6-36-137-11-4-63-126-.340-.405-.607-1.012-386-23-10-0-4-7
159-715-630-108-213-45-3-27-117-1-0-74-119-.338-.410-.548-.957-345-28-6-0-5-20

I know, it's number overload, but the point is, that yes Pujols and Cabrera are the best two, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the lineup works as well as the rest of the teams' does, and Pujols and Cabrera just aren't that much better than what the other teams have at #3-4 to make up for that. Team B still hits over .300 without their 3 & 4, Team J is at .298 and Team E is at .296. Hell, Team G still has an OPS of .894 without their's.

The problem with look at players peaks (as I see peak) as that it's the year they were their absolute best. It could last one season, 2, 3, 10. But there is one year that is best, and sometimes its hard to decide which year that is, others it's real easy. But, the reality is that Pujols may have outperformed these players over the decade, but his one best season (or peak) isn't as big a gap from their best season, which is why the numbers bring Team D, back down. I see the line up being 5th without their 3-4 and they are anywhere from 1 to 3 with Pujols and Cabrera.

Pujols and Cabrera are great, but there isn't a 3-4 combo out there right now that doesn't have 2 great hitters.

Come on now....there isn't a 3-4 combo in the game today that comes close to touching an in their prime Pujols and Cabrera. Not even close. Maybe not ever

 

[Nosferatu]

Morning y'all... Stop bashing Gandy's team! lolzzz

 

[blstoker]

Come on now....there isn't a 3-4 combo in the game today that comes close to touching an in their prime Pujols and Cabrera. Not even close. Maybe not ever

Well, that really depends on what you mean by "not even close". If you mean just straight up talent, that may be true. But, the question really is are they so much better than every one that the rest of their lineup doesn't even matter?

 

[blstoker]

Morning y'all... Stop bashing Gandy's team! lolzzz

Oh, it's just me....

 

[Nosferatu]

Stoke you gonna do the NBA draft?

 

[Nosferatu]

So on that note who is doing the NBA current draft?


1. Ritz
2. Nos
3. UK
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.

 

[blstoker]

Stoke you gonna do the NBA draft?

Sure, why not. I guess I better start studying, since I haven't followed the NBA closely since SONICSGATE.

 

[Nosferatu]

1. Ritz
2. Nos
3. UK
4. Stoke
5.
6.
7.
8.

 

[Nosferatu]

Smitty if you didn't get in on the first Hoop fantasy league we do have a 2nd that I am also in and we need a few more. Let me know guys if any of you want in...

 

[gandydancer]

Morning y'all... Stop bashing Gandy's team! lolzzz

Thanks for finishing up my team Nos. That trade was terrible for me. Easily could have grabbed a few guys for in front of and behind Miggy and Albert. He does have valid points of lack luster roster after those two.

 

[Logicallylethal]

I'm down for an NBA draft. What are the rules for this one

 

[Ritzarmy]

1. Ritz
2. Nos
3. UK
4. Stoke
5. Lethal
6.
7.
8.

 

[Ritzarmy]

I'm down for an NBA draft. What are the rules for this one

Current players only

 

[Nosferatu]

Current players only

No double drafting the first 2 rounds, starting round 3 there will be double drafting.

 

[Ritzarmy]

No double drafting the first 2 rounds, starting round 3 there will be double drafting.

And Nos has to draft Kwame brown even though he might be a current player anymore.

 

[Nosferatu]

Eh, I was thinking Christian Laettner with my first pick and Michael Olowokandi with my second!

 

[Nosferatu]

The Championship game is posted and ready to be voted on.

 

[Ritzarmy]

When does mlb draft end and nba start?

 

[Nosferatu]

I hope we can start the NBA draft Monday, we need to PM WLK and Shaq and some of the others who did the last NBA draft.

 

[Ritzarmy]

I hope we can start the NBA draft Monday, we need to PM WLK and Shaq and some of the others who did the last NBA draft.

Then start PMing