Meaningless Things That Must Change Now

[MHSL82]

What does this mean?

I was saying that the earliest a team got to 99.9% was probably halftime because all the examples I showed above either didn’t look like it based upon Gameflow or did reach there until after halftime.

But I say likelihood because I only checked the games since 2006 and games that were won by 49 points or more. Obviously a team can get up by a lot of points and have a 99.9% chance of winning but then win by fewer than 49 points.

But I’m not gonna look all that up.

 

[nuraman00]

I was saying that the earliest a team got to 99.9% was probably halftime because all the examples I showed above either didn’t look like it based upon Gameflow or did reach there until after halftime.

But I say likelihood because I only checked the games since 2006 and games that were won by 49 points or more. Obviously a team can get up by a lot of points and have a 99.9% chance of winning but then win by fewer than 49 points.

But I’m not gonna look all that up.

No, what you did was right. Games since 2006, and 49 points or more, gives a good sample.

But, did you actually find any game where it was 99.9% at halftime? Or even 99%. If so, which game?

 

[MHSL82]

No, what you did was right. Games since 2006, and 49 points or more, gives a good sample.

But, did you actually find any game where it was 99.9% at halftime? Or even 99%. If so, which game?

The first one.

 

[MHSL82]

Here’s halftime: Grizzlies vs. Hornets - Game Summary - March 22, 2018 - ESPN

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This one , @nuraman00 .

 

[nuraman00]

This one , @nuraman00 .

Thank you.

So the benchmark has been set.

90.5% - 5:52 left in the first.

99.9% - halftime.

I didn't know or remember there was a 61 point margin of victory.

 

[nuraman00]

Here’s halftime: Grizzlies vs. Hornets - Game Summary - March 22, 2018 - ESPN

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The FG% in those box scores is messed up.

30 - 78 is not 71.4%.

It's 38.4%.

49 - 92 is not 85.2%. It's 53.2%.

 

[nuraman00]

Next task: Can you find any game where a team had a 99.9% chance of losing, and won?

I don't care about earliest or latest to 99.9% that ended up being wrong. I just want to find one such example, that's good enough.

 

[MHSL82]

So Cleveland scores two points after this point, but I can’t scroll to that point.

 

[wilwhite]

To the original question - a boatload of Ts. Imagine an aggrieved coach refusing to have his team take the floor and the other team getting to keep making free throws.

 

[MHSL82]

To the original question - a boatload of Ts. Imagine an aggrieved coach refusing to have his team take the floor and the other team getting to keep making free throws.

40 Ts oughta do it. But you are right. I just thought that 0.1% chance of forfeit, which is really the only way, was too high. They need to drag that number out to 500 decimals. Just kidding.

 

[MHSL82]

@nuraman00 , we beat the earliest tie reaching 99.9%. 1:31 left of second quarter.

 

[nuraman00]

Wish I had seen that game!

 

[MHSL82]

Close:

 

[nuraman00]

So when comparing the Utah - Sacramento game with the Orlando - Utah game, Orlando had 8 fewer points than Sacramento, and Utah had 1 fewer point than Utah, and that allowed the 99.9% to be 1:21 earlier in the 2nd quarter.

 

[MHSL82]

So when comparing the Utah - Sacramento game with the Orlando - Utah game, Orlando had 8 fewer points than Sacramento, and Utah had 1 fewer point than Utah, and that allowed the 99.9% to be 1:21 earlier in the 2nd quarter.

It also takes into account the teams. Because if you ever watch that live, the Jazz usually start with a 60-70 chance of winning at 0-0. If the other team gets a lead, we still may be the favorite to win on that winning percentage.

 

[MHSL82]

Never got to 99.9%.

 

[MHSL82]

On the box score, if a player that normally plays, (or maybe every player that is active doesn’t play?), they should still show up on the box score with the reason why they didn’t play, whether that is coach‘s decision, or injured hamstring or something. For example, Doncic didn’t play tonight, and I don’t know if it was rest, coach’s decision, or injury. I’m joking about the coach’s decision, except for that, they might decide to rest him because it’s against the Rockets.

Yes, I understand that you can only dress the certain number of players and you’re not going to dress somebody who is injured for sure, and you’re not going to list somebody who is not dressed in uniform. I’m also not suggesting to list people who are in the G league on the box score.

Yes, I know they lost and I feel like resting him, but losing anyway his stupid strategy for overall record. You should rest him against a team you are not going to beat. If you could beat everybody, then play the damn game. Why anyone chooses to lose to the Rockets is beyond me.

Seriously though, I really believe that the championship to me meant the team that was able to play all their players as many games as possible, and have the energy to win in June is the real champion. I understand that you rest because of accumulative injury, but I also feel that is cheapening the game. I’m not saying it is cheating, of course, but it makes it worth less to me.

 

[nuraman00]

They list the reasons for players on the active list. They don't list the reason for players on the inactive list.

You can see the 3 players that got coach's decision here:

Rockets 101-92 Mavericks (Nov 16, 2022) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Houston Rockets vs. Dallas Mavericks NBA game from November 16, 2022 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

Doncic must have been on the inactive list.

You can see injury reasons for players on the active list here:

Raptors 112-104 Heat (Nov 16, 2022) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Toronto Raptors vs. Miami Heat NBA game from November 16, 2022 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

 

[MHSL82]

They list the reasons for players on the active list. They don't list the reason for players on the inactive list.

You can see the 3 players that got coach's decision here:

Rockets 101-92 Mavericks (Nov 16, 2022) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Houston Rockets vs. Dallas Mavericks NBA game from November 16, 2022 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

Doncic must have been on the inactive list.

You can see injury reasons for players on the active list here:

Raptors 112-104 Heat (Nov 16, 2022) Box Score - ESPN

Box score for the Toronto Raptors vs. Miami Heat NBA game from November 16, 2022 on ESPN. Includes all points, rebounds and steals stats.

www.espn.com

I used to feel that if one was not on the active list that they were available to be claimed somehow (but with some players exempt due to years in the league or something) so that’s why some had many injury designations on the reasons. Like I had thought inactive was risky or something. I learned it wasn’t a long time ago, but I used to view it that way.

 

[nuraman00]

I used to feel that if one was not on the active list that they were available to be claimed somehow (but with some players exempt due to years in the league or something) so that’s why some had many injury designations on the reasons. Like I had thought inactive was risky or something. I learned it wasn’t a long time ago, but I used to view it that way.

Why didn't you make a thread called "Nuraman00, why didn't you tell me that putting players on the inactive list isn't the same thing as placing a player on waivers?"