Martin - Hey guys, was that hit legal?

[iruletheskool]

Hey guys, was that hit legal?


(sarcasm)

 

[popeyecv64]

Hey guys, was that hit legal?


(sarcasm)

sure made the dipshit anouncers babble on for awhile after words geeeez

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I will be honest, it does seem like the shots to the head are becoming more and more nowdays. I don't think they would have made as much of an issue out of Martin's hit if he wasn't on the sideline laughin about it afterward.

I'm all for physical football though, and I am never one to complain about hits no matter what team is playing. For some reason though the hits are becoming worse and worse as the years go on.

 

[iruletheskool]

they showed him laughing ten minutes after it happened and the player already got up...

clearly he was laughing at the kid being hurt.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

they showed him laughing ten minutes after it happened and the player already got up...

clearly he was laughing at the kid being hurt.

Don't be a homer..........he was laying on the ground while they were showing Martin laughing and reenacting the hit on the sideline.

I love Martin and I love the Huskers, but he was proud of the hit.......I have to call it how I see it.

 

[iruletheskool]

eh, i wasn't paying attention, but it was a long time after the hit...

also i just felt like we needed one of these threads, because every other husker board seems obsessed about it.

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I have already rewatched the game.....yes I am a freak like that. I will be rewatching it again probably tonight. At the time I was more focused on the game than the actual hit and everything.........I didn't even care about the hit at the time.

After rewatching it though I noticed one of the things that Martin did right after the hit was turn around and stand over the guy flexing his muscles as the guy laid motionless on the ground........I know he was pumped as hell, but that embarrassed me a bit.

I will absolutely guarantee you that the coaches talked to Martin about that hit after they watched the film.

 

[huskers1217]

does he survive in today's league or does he get suspended?

actually..in re watching this video...all those hits are clean and with the shoulder pads........

 

[HawkeyeHater]

Don't be a homer..........he was laying on the ground while they were showing Martin laughing and reenacting the hit on the sideline.

I love Martin and I love the Huskers, but he was proud of the hit.......I have to call it how I see it.

Could he not be reenacting the hit he just gave on the kick return- which is when they should him "reenacting" AFTER the kick return....


1. I would have been proud of that hit too- It was COMPLETELY LEGAL
2. They should him reenacting 10 minutes after the hit- 1 minute after the hit he laid on the kick returner........ 4 minutes after the dude walked to the cart.....

 

[HawkeyeHater]

I have already rewatched the game.....yes I am a freak like that. I will be rewatching it again probably tonight. At the time I was more focused on the game than the actual hit and everything.........I didn't even care about the hit at the time.

After rewatching it though I noticed one of the things that Martin did right after the hit was turn around and stand over the guy flexing his muscles as the guy laid motionless on the ground........I know he was pumped as hell, but that embarrassed me a bit.

I will absolutely guarantee you that the coaches talked to Martin about that hit after they watched the film.

I hope coaches stop it at "don't taunt"


Nothing about that hit was illegal or dirty....... I don't care how many times you want to rewatch it......

1. He did not target a defenseless player
2. He did not hit with the crown of his helmet

And those two facts are the only important ones......... his helmet incidentally contacting the other players face-mask does not make the hit illegal or dirty......



It was however, very clear that Ron Franklin does not understand the helmet to helmet rules..... And was spouting off at the mouth about something he simply doesn't understand because of the fuss that was made last week in the nfl......

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

Let me clarify something..........I am not saying a penalty should have been thrown. I don't care about that. But anytime you make contact with someone's face who is running full speed in the opposite direction as you (he did hit him in the head with his shoulder........I guarantee it, rewatch it......I already did) that is nothing to be proud of.

ANYONE........even the punter.........could lay someone out by leading with the shoulder to the helmet. I paused it on my tv and marveled at how he laid the guy out........and he fed his shoulder to that boys mouth.

If the kid got severly hurt then everyone would have a totally different opinion on this.

 

[HawkeyeHater]

does he survive in today's league or does he get suspended?

actually..in re watching this video...all those hits are clean and with the shoulder pads........

LOL @ :56 he punches the guy in the facemask......... I quit watching after that- assured he would have got his fare share of fines/suspensions...

 

[huskers1217]

LOL @ :56 he punches the guy in the facemask......... I quit watching after that- assured he would have got his fare share of fines/suspensions...

there was another punch at 5:55 too.

 

[HawkeyeHater]

Let me clarify something..........I am not saying a penalty should have been thrown. I don't care about that. But anytime you make contact with someone's face who is running full speed in the opposite direction as you (he did hit him in the head with his shoulder........I guarantee it, rewatch it......I already did) that is nothing to be proud of.

ANYONE........even the punter.........could lay someone out by leading with the shoulder to the helmet. I paused it on my tv and marveled at how he laid the guy out........and he fed his shoulder to that boys mouth.

If the kid got severly hurt then everyone would have a totally different opinion on this.

1. He didn't lead with the shoulder to the helmet His shoulder clearly hits below the OSU players arm pit.....- you can watch the OSU player slow down and brace for impact, dropping his hips right before martin arrived...... As with many "illegal/helmet-helmet" hits, the hittee is just as responsible for such contact as the hitter......

Martins pad level was STILL below the OSU players................... as you can see here......



This video you can clearly see the OSU player- go into a "oh shit" position before impact-


it was this "oh shit" position that caused the helmet to helmet- however it was LEGAL HELMET TO HELMET as martins head was up, thus not leading with the "crown" of his helmet, had Martins head been DOWN, he WOULD have been leading with the CROWN of his helmet- therefore it would have been a ILLEGAL hit........





As such, it's a clean hit- and there is NOTHING further to talk about....

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

HH, can you not see the guy's helmet snap backward........it is obvious. In fact, it is Martin's helmet that makes his helmet snap back. Now you've got me thinking it should be a penalty.

 

[iruletheskool]

JJM.. the penalty is for leading with the helmet...

helmets are going to touch each other, it's football...

 

[Jack_John_Mark]

I'm pretty sure the technical term is "helmet-to-helmet penalty."

But I am done here, because homerism is unbeatable.......and this I do know from several years of experience.

 

[HawkeyeHater]

JJM.. the penalty is for leading with the helmet...

helmets are going to touch each other, it's football...

This is COMPLETELY ACCURATE!!!!!!!!!!!!


Helmets can touch...........


also "leading with the helmet" - can confuse some also



It is not illegal for the first contact to be made with the helmet- It is illegal for the first contact to be made with the very top of the helmet- or "CROWN" think of spearing......

 

[HawkeyeHater]

I'm pretty sure the technical term is "helmet-to-helmet penalty."

But I am done here, because homerism is unbeatable.......and this I do know from several years of experience.

You know what is truely unbeatable......... Unwillingness to change you opinoin based on facts........... you are wrong........

and I have ncaa rules to prove it- yet you continue to argue otherwise- because you THINK you know the rules........



I'm not arguing this fact because it's Eric Martin who happens to be a husker....


I'm arguing this fact because Ron Franklin is a fucking dimwit who has half the nation think that was a Illegal hit, when according to the rules book is Is A COMPLETELY LEGAL HIT......... VIA THE RULE BOOK!!!!!!!!!!!!

Flagrant Personal Fouls (Rule 9-6). For 2009-10 the rules committee has added a new section that calls for conferences in the days following a game to review certain particularly dangerous plays. This new rule says that if a player is ejected for any flagrant personal foul the conference must review the game video for possible further action. In addition, if the officials call fouls for targeting defenseless players or using the crown of the helmet and the player is not ejected, the rules mandate a conference review. Furthermore, if the review by the conference reveals actions that should have resulted in a personal foul but were not called, the conference may impose sanctions.

The crown of the helmet is the TOP.......

 

[HawkeyeHater]

Helmet-to-helmet hits draw closer NCAA scrutiny - USATODAY.com