Lundy REALLY

[stealth]

You understand NOTHING about this process apparently. A player CANNOT override a doctors opinion. We're talking about the man's fucking life. During that game the doctor allowed him to continue playing because you can't magically tell if a blood vessel is strained without diagnostic tools like ultrasound. In retrospect, the doctors should have held him out after the incident, but they didn't. In follow up they found the blood vessel issue and realized the risk of stroke, so he's being held out until it heals. And in regard to past injury where he was held out: I can GUARAN-EFFING-TEE you that he was held out by medical professionals. Goalies play every minute of a game, they contort their bodies into ridiculous positions, they face the toughest mental battle on the ice, and Hank has been pretty dang durable in spite of that. So, stop calling a guy who took a puck to the neck a "vagina", because this isn't some hangnail type thing, it's NOT something you fight through. There are very few injuries that you should fight through that won't possibly get worse playing such a sport, and a freaking stroke isn't on the list.

Hank is whiner....he got raked and you are screaming bloody murder for board popularity votes get a life.
It wasn't even close to a stroke...I had a stroke before and thats why I asked you if you could define the word stroke

 

[pixburgher66]

Hank is whiner....he got raked and you are screaming bloody murder for board popularity votes get a life.
It wasn't even close to a stroke...I had a stroke before and thats why I asked you if you could define the word stroke

Definition of a stroke? Okay, it's when a blood clot travels into the brain. That's the simple explanation. The result, as you're likely aware, is life threatening as there is a cut off of oxygen to the brain. He didn't have a stroke, but he suffered an injury that greatly increases the likelihood of a stroke. When you have traumatic vascular injury, there's a risk of decreased blood flow or clots, and his injury was in the neck, which is the direct pipe line to the brain. When you exercise and exert yourself, your blood is flowing at a higher velocity, the area could be hit again, clot could be dislodged, etc. And I do have a life, which revolves around protecting athletes' bodies from injury. Calling a guy a whiner for having a life threatening condition is just sad.

Here, education:

Traumatic Vascular Injury - Head & neck | Inside Radiology

 

[Darkstone42]

Hank is whiner....he got raked and you are screaming bloody murder for board popularity votes get a life.
It wasn't even close to a stroke...I had a stroke before and thats why I asked you if you could define the word stroke

How can you demonstrate such a monumental lack of perspective when you have precisely the context which should best equip you to have perspective?

If, before your stroke, you had gone into the doctor's office and he told you, "Stop doing this one thing or else you'll be at a higher risk of a stroke," would you or would you not have at least tried to stop doing that one thing? I would give it my best go. In Hank's case, it's pretty easy (comparatively) to no do that thing. I'm sure he loves hockey, but this isn't like making a major daily life change like quitting smoking, or changing his diet, or whatever, which requires him to be constantly conscious of his actions. He can even still go through the routine of showing up at the rink.

And besides all of that, even if he decides to retire today, you and your fellow fans are not so important and entitled in your fanhood that it would be some deplorable betrayal. His life is a lot more important than your entertainment, and his long-term health should be his only consideration right now.

Plus, if you want to remain a cold-hearted, self-centered jerkface about this, I feel like a living, breathing, not-at-risk-for-a-stroke-or-having-had-a-stroke Lundqvist is a lot more valuable to the Rangers this season and next than the opposite of that giant hyphenated word I created just now.

Also, this is a palindrome post. 30103.

 

[stealth]

Hank was up walking around and says he feels fine.....he never had a stroke. His throat got raked by a stick which cant cause a stroke a concussion maybe. Bloody murder Stealth is murderer......you people are way overreactive. When I had my stroke there weren't any headaches something popped inside my head and the pain went and semi- parayllized my right side of my head and shot down into the right arm, right side of my lower body, into my right leg and right foot. I sat on a park bench with my mountain bike and nobody knew what was happening except for me, I couldn't talk. I sat there for about an hour and the lightening rod pain subsided it didn't just go way and I walked home. Went to the doctor that afternoon and said I had a stroke due to the intense ridomg of my bike in 100 plus heat. He ended the visit by saying you are lucky. Hank didn't have a stroke

 

[stealth]

Definition of a stroke? Okay, it's when a blood clot travels into the brain. That's the simple explanation. The result, as you're likely aware, is life threatening as there is a cut off of oxygen to the brain. He didn't have a stroke, but he suffered an injury that greatly increases the likelihood of a stroke. When you have traumatic vascular injury, there's a risk of decreased blood flow or clots, and his injury was in the neck, which is the direct pipe line to the brain. When you exercise and exert yourself, your blood is flowing at a higher velocity, the area could be hit again, clot could be dislodged, etc. And I do have a life, which revolves around protecting athletes' bodies from injury. Calling a guy a whiner for having a life threatening condition is just sad.

Here, education:

Traumatic Vascular Injury - Head & neck | Inside Radiology

I know what im talking about....Hank is whiner

 

[Comeds]

I do find it strange Hank suddenly got 'hurt' when "The Walking Dead" returned and "Better Call Saul" premiered.

 

[pixburgher66]

Hank was up walking around and says he feels fine.....he never had a stroke. His throat got raked by a stick which cant cause a stroke a concussion maybe. Bloody murder Stealth is murderer......you people are way overreactive. When I had my stroke there weren't any headaches something popped inside my head and the pain went and semi- parayllized my right side of my head and shot down into the right arm, right side of my lower body, into my right leg and right foot. I sat on a park bench with my mountain bike and nobody knew what was happening except for me, I couldn't talk. I sat there for about an hour and the lightening rod pain subsided it didn't just go way and I walked home. Went to the doctor that afternoon and said I had a stroke due to the intense ridomg of my bike in 100 plus heat. He ended the visit by saying you are lucky. Hank didn't have a stroke

No one has said that. Not a one. And he wasn't merely raked by a stick, he took a snap shot to the throat after McDonough's stick lifted his mask up. Even just a stick to the throat isn't a tiny issue when the damage it causes is as dangerous as what happened to Lundqvist. There's also a few guys in the league right now who are out with blood clots, and will be for six months because they need to be on blood thinners (Dupuis, Timmonen). Lundqvist is lucky it's only a few weeks and not longer.

 

[stealth]

No one has said that. Not a one. And he wasn't merely raked by a stick, he took a snap shot to the throat after McDonough's stick lifted his mask up. Even just a stick to the throat isn't a tiny issue when the damage it causes is as dangerous as what happened to Lundqvist. There's also a few guys in the league right now who are out with blood clots, and will be for six months because they need to be on blood thinners (Dupuis, Timmonen). Lundqvist is lucky it's only a few weeks and not longer.

you said it was a stroke it wasnt a stroke....all hype and overreactive=weak

 

[dare2be]

Pix never said it was a stroke. lies=weak

This thread has a great likelihood of being shut down.

 

[KennyBanyeah]

WTF?

NO ONE ever said he had a stroke. It was said, and supported with a link, that Lundy was being held out of the lineup because his injury increased his risk of a stroke.

Please tell me this is a troll thread and not someone's real take on all of this.

 

[DChero]

What the hell is happening here these days???

 

[forty_three]

What the hell is happening here these days???

I broke my ribs
Comeds is trying to dispose of a relative
dash is laughing at everything Edmonton does and
Devilish likes pizza.

So mostly the same, some new stuff.

 

[DChero]

Pizza, you say? That is new.

This Hank thing seems pretty straight forward. If he can stand, he should be stopping pucks. Doesn't he even care about his Cup window? This isn't a game. If he has a stroke while on the ice, how bad can it be?

 

[Pastafazul]

i agree hank is the reason why the rangers have had success, i also believe where he was hit, don't know for sure whether it was mcdonagh's stick, the puck hit him or both that caused the injury, but no matter, where he was injured he should have been immediately pulled, something like that should NEVER be left up to the player...

secondly, what the puck is a vascular injury, i been hit every where at every level in sport, never heard of it!

maybe thats what stealth thought, a vaggginal injury, from puck penetrataion?

 

[Cyder]

i agree hank is the reason why the rangers have had success, i also believe where he was hit, don't know for sure whether it was mcdonagh's stick, the puck hit him or both that caused the injury, but no matter, where he was injured he should have been immediately pulled, something like that should NEVER be left up to the player...

secondly, what the puck is a vascular injury, i been hit every where at every level in sport, never heard of it!

maybe thats what stealth thought, a vaggginal injury, from puck penetrataion?

The puck hit him in the throat. A vascular injury involves blood flow. The puck clearly damaged something and he could have had a stroke. Never seen it either but how often does a goalies neck guard get lifted just as a shot is coming in? Horrible fuckin luck

 

[pixburgher66]

i agree hank is the reason why the rangers have had success, i also believe where he was hit, don't know for sure whether it was mcdonagh's stick, the puck hit him or both that caused the injury, but no matter, where he was injured he should have been immediately pulled, something like that should NEVER be left up to the player...

secondly, what the puck is a vascular injury, i been hit every where at every level in sport, never heard of it!

maybe thats what stealth thought, a vaggginal injury, from puck penetrataion?

As someone who has to make "return to play" decisions, it's never an easy call to let an athlete stay in or go back in a game. But honestly, if it were me in that situation, my gut (after ruling out fx, concussions, neurological stuff) would be to let him play on. The AT, MD, etc were the ones who okay'd it, I can assure you of that. Now, every time I'm given a "should they play" decision, I do consult the player to see if they think they can go, but that's only after I've decided it won't cause major injury. Some stuff slips through the cracks, and vascular (meaning blood vessels) injury is pretty rare, so it's not really shocking to me they let him play. The only way you can really tell there's an injury there is with an arthrogram (I think) and with time they'll have symptoms like headache, lightheadedness, etc.

 

[Cyder]

As someone who has to make "return to play" decisions, it's never an easy call to let an athlete stay in or go back in a game. But honestly, if it were me in that situation, my gut (after ruling out fx, concussions, neurological stuff) would be to let him play on. The AT, MD, etc were the ones who okay'd it, I can assure you of that. Now, every time I'm given a "should they play" decision, I do consult the player to see if they think they can go, but that's only after I've decided it won't cause major injury. Some stuff slips through the cracks, and vascular (meaning blood vessels) injury is pretty rare, so it's not really shocking to me they let him play. The only way you can really tell there's an injury there is with an arthrogram (I think) and with time they'll have symptoms like headache, lightheadedness, etc.

He even played in the next game so he must have felt ok until the symptoms set in. As a Ranger fan who knows this guy is basically the team my first instinct was "Take him out just in case" but chances are he plays the next game anyway if he wasn't feeling the effects yet

 

[Pastafazul]

unless i missed something, lundy did not play the next game, he finished the 1 he was hurt in,, but sat the next vs the bruins, i think.

getting back to the ice when lundy went down, the trainer was applying the ice from the rink immediately as a precautionary of some sort of swelling, blockage.. i assume from what lundy was telling him.... thats a no brainer, off the ice, and tests should have been done...

 

[RangersReds03]

unless i missed something, lundy did not play the next game, he finished the 1 he was hurt in,, but sat the next vs the bruins, i think.

getting back to the ice when lundy went down, the trainer was applying the ice from the rink immediately as a precautionary of some sort of swelling, blockage.. i assume from what lundy was telling him.... thats a no brainer, off the ice, and tests should have been done...

Apparently you missed the game against Florida.

 

[sabresfaninthesouth]

unless i missed something, lundy did not play the next game, he finished the 1 he was hurt in,, but sat the next vs the bruins, i think.

getting back to the ice when lundy went down, the trainer was applying the ice from the rink immediately as a precautionary of some sort of swelling, blockage.. i assume from what lundy was telling him.... thats a no brainer, off the ice, and tests should have been done...

They could have just been doing that as a way to numb the pain. I'm sure it hurt like hell getting hit the way he did. He probably figured at first that it was just a stinger and would result in a nasty bruise. Ice it up good to numb it and move on.