Lucic to meet with Campbell

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Seems appropriate to have the hearing on Boxing Day for a punch that garnered a match penalty. Anybody have a video of this?

Bruins' Lucic to have hearing for punching Meyer

 

[HonusWagner66]

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Thanks Honus.

I'm a big fan of Lucic, but that hit looked pretty clean to me. Don't like to see guys throwing punches when guys are engaged (locked up) with officials. Milan may have to sit for a game to think about his actions.

 

[Comeds]

I'm not sure about the hit. I dont really think Meyer left his feet until after the hit but it does look like he went for his head. The head shot straight on is legal though, isn't it?

I don't like the punch.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

This is exactly what is wrong with hockey. An arguably clean hit and an all out brawl ensues. Christ, what happened to taking it like a man and getting the guy back later. Freddy isnt a big dude, it would not be hard for a guy like Lucic to get him back.

 

[SLY]

That was a high hit... While I agree Milans punch was dirty, I loved it. Wasn't a clean hit, he didnt leave his feet, but he targeted the head. Good job by the B's to show some balls. Lookin forward to the next game against the thrashers, which is right around the corner.

 

[puckhead]

Good old time hockey "Let 'em know you're there!!"

a) hit was clean. let Lucic deal if he's pissed about it (as he looked poised to)
b) corrollory to that, starting a brawl on behalf of a tougher teammate is a good bonding moment
c) Meyer - you are in a scrum, and the target of 5 guys' collective rage. as they say "En Guard!"
d) didn't know Horton could throw 'em like that. he did pretty well against Evander

 

[filosofy29]

Dude, that Bruins announcer (the one who was calling the fights) has to be one of the worst Homers I've ever heard. Seriously.....almost Brian Gayward bad.....I couldn't listen to a telecast that bad.....

Also, bad punch by Lucic. He should sit for at least a game.

 

[Comeds]

Dude, that Bruins announcer (the one who was calling the fights) has to be one of the worst Homers I've ever heard. Seriously.....almost Brian Gayward bad.....I couldn't listen to a telecast that bad.....

Also, bad punch by Lucic. He should sit for at least a game.

Jack Edwards is often watching different games than the ones he is broadcasting. Or so it seems. He has gotten a lot of attention for his calls of fights before, fights that are a draw or close to it are often announced as if it was a total beat down by the Bruin.
Oddly enough I kind of enjoy listening to him.

 

[Destroydacre]

Lucic, please punch Campbell in the face.


Thanks,
All hockey fans

 

[NullDefault]

This fight was necessary in every possible sense for this team. The B's were looking to send a message and that's just what they did. It doesn't matter if Freddy Meyer was actually targeting the head or not, the players can't see the replays they just know what they felt they saw on the ice and that was enough. If Lucic has to sit a game for his actions and possibly receive a fine I'm ok with it. I don't care as long as the team is seen as willing to lay it all on the line in every game they play. That's how you want to be perceived.

 

[SLY]

This fight was necessary in every possible sense for this team. The B's were looking to send a message and that's just what they did. It doesn't matter if Freddy Meyer was actually targeting the head or not, the players can't see the replays they just know what they felt they saw on the ice and that was enough. If Lucic has to sit a game for his actions and possibly receive a fine I'm ok with it. I don't care as long as the team is seen as willing to lay it all on the line in every game they play. That's how you want to be perceived.

Yes.

 

[Comeds]

This fight was necessary in every possible sense for this team. The B's were looking to send a message and that's just what they did. It doesn't matter if Freddy Meyer was actually targeting the head or not, the players can't see the replays they just know what they felt they saw on the ice and that was enough. If Lucic has to sit a game for his actions and possibly receive a fine I'm ok with it. I don't care as long as the team is seen as willing to lay it all on the line in every game they play. That's how you want to be perceived.

I think a lot of people probably feel similarly when their team starts a brawl after a clean hit. A lot of people, myself included, dont like the fussiness after a clean hit but when its a member of their team standing up for another it bothers them less.

 

[beantownmaniac]

This fight was necessary in every possible sense for this team. The B's were looking to send a message and that's just what they did. It doesn't matter if Freddy Meyer was actually targeting the head or not, the players can't see the replays they just know what they felt they saw on the ice and that was enough. If Lucic has to sit a game for his actions and possibly receive a fine I'm ok with it. I don't care as long as the team is seen as willing to lay it all on the line in every game they play. That's how you want to be perceived.

Yeah!!! What he said!!! Bettman sucks too!!!

 

[BOSSMANPC]

I think a lot of people probably feel similarly when their team starts a brawl after a clean hit. A lot of people, myself included, dont like the fussiness after a clean hit but when its a member of their team standing up for another it bothers them less.

Neither do I.....To me it makes hockey players and fans look like hypocrites. How can we say we love this sport because is fast, tough and physical then turn around and say "whoa he hit our player" with a clean hit so we are going to send a message to them. Really? What message, that we have become a sport of pussies?

What ever happened to the hip check? It's almost extinct because if you listen to the younger fans now and heaven forbid they happen to see one the first thing they do is cry like a baby and say the guy stuck his leg out when in reality he didn't.

What happens in a football game if a RB doesn't pick up a blitzing LB and his QB get's drilled? The first things you hear is the color commentator say "That guy is going to hear about that blown assignment" All of the players don't gather around and start pushing each other like a bunch of jerks.

The same goes when a QB throws a pass high over the middle and the WR has to go up for it and gets blasted by a safety or CB. The message sent is "Hey asshole, don't throw a pass that leaves me open to get hammered" That's the message.

When Campbell flattened Umberger (because RJ's teammate put him on the trolley tracks with a terrible pass and he had his head down) a few years ago with a perfectly legal hit the Flyers tried to send a message. It worked they lost the series because they were more concerned with sending a message than winning the games.

Tim Connolly got drilled by Sheafer {sp?} in Ottawa a few years back because Connolly skated through the middle with his head down. When I saw it my first comment was "He got what he deserved". Connolly has since done it again and BTW remember another big time hit on Umberger in C-Bus when he skated up the middle with his head down AGAIN? So let's see. The Flyers tried to send a "message" and lost the series and RJ obviously still hasn't learned to keep his head up. Same goes for Connolly.

Message, sure send a message to these players that if they keep making the same mistake they will get the same result. The so called "message" never seems to work anyway.

Don't get me wrong, If a player takes an obvious cheap shot like a guy getting flattened face first into the boards that's a different story. But to start a scrum over good "hockey" hit's IMO makes the players look like pussies.

Bring the real men and good open ice hip checks back to this sport. I miss them.

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

I remember growing up playing hockey, every coach yells at you to skate with you head up.

Why should youngsters today listen when NHL players skate with their heads down all the time? And if they get hit, a brawl starts.

Like Boss said, it is total hypocrisy. Also, let players stand up for themselves. Lucic isn't the smallest player in the league, let him target Meyer the rest of the game. I would feel embarrassed if a teammate had to stick up for me after the other guy did nothing wrong.

 

[Forty_Sixand2]

The hit seemed fine to me.

The punch seemed a bit excessive, but certainly not a suspend-able offense.

That one announcer is a fucking Neanderthal. his comments about the hit, savard-little fight, et al... were pretty dumb sounding.

The whole thing was kind of dumb. It was a clean hit, and if anyone should understand borderline hits, it is Lucic. Live by the sword.....

 

[PhillyPhaithful48]

I see a fine coming for the punch. Very similar to Downie/Blake incident. Slightly dirty, but I was a little biased because I could never stand Blake. He had an egg on his face the second downie punched him.

 

[NullDefault]

Neither do I.....To me it makes hockey players and fans look like hypocrites. How can we say we love this sport because is fast, tough and physical then turn around and say "whoa he hit our player" with a clean hit so we are going to send a message to them. Really? What message, that we have become a sport of pussies?

What ever happened to the hip check? It's almost extinct because if you listen to the younger fans now and heaven forbid they happen to see one the first thing they do is cry like a baby and say the guy stuck his leg out when in reality he didn't.

What happens in a football game if a RB doesn't pick up a blitzing LB and his QB get's drilled? The first things you hear is the color commentator say "That guy is going to hear about that blown assignment" All of the players don't gather around and start pushing each other like a bunch of jerks.

The same goes when a QB throws a pass high over the middle and the WR has to go up for it and gets blasted by a safety or CB. The message sent is "Hey asshole, don't throw a pass that leaves me open to get hammered" That's the message.

When Campbell flattened Umberger (because RJ's teammate put him on the trolley tracks with a terrible pass and he had his head down) a few years ago with a perfectly legal hit the Flyers tried to send a message. It worked they lost the series because they were more concerned with sending a message than winning the games.

Tim Connolly got drilled by Sheafer {sp?} in Ottawa a few years back because Connolly skated through the middle with his head down. When I saw it my first comment was "He got what he deserved". Connolly has since done it again and BTW remember another big time hit on Umberger in C-Bus when he skated up the middle with his head down AGAIN? So let's see. The Flyers tried to send a "message" and lost the series and RJ obviously still hasn't learned to keep his head up. Same goes for Connolly.

Message, sure send a message to these players that if they keep making the same mistake they will get the same result. The so called "message" never seems to work anyway.

Don't get me wrong, If a player takes an obvious cheap shot like a guy getting flattened face first into the boards that's a different story. But to start a scrum over good "hockey" hit's IMO makes the players look like pussies.

Bring the real men and good open ice hip checks back to this sport. I miss them.

This is a tough post to respond to because in all seriousness I agree with everything you say. It needs to be said, though, that Ference stepped in before Lucic had a chance to take care of the situation himself. I agree with it being a clean hit on replay of it in slow motion, but on ice in real time it looked like there was some head hunting going on and given the amount of time left in the game and the score at the time I can see how Ference might overreact in this situation. Lucic clearly felt the same way at the time. I'm sure that having seen the hit since Lucic would agree that the hit was clean. In your argument you have to take into account how the situation seemed at the time on the ice, Ference and Lucic reacted to a hit that at the time with no other evidence to go by, they felt was a dirty hit and an attempt to injure. You want players on your team to stick up for each other in these situations where it's even questionable at the time. A player on the ice can't really say, well it looked like a dirty hit but I better wait for the replay. To me that also creates a game full of pussies. Just my opinion Boss.

 

[SLY]

This is a tough post to respond to because in all seriousness I agree with everything you say. It needs to be said, though, that Ference stepped in before Lucic had a chance to take care of the situation himself. I agree with it being a clean hit on replay of it in slow motion, but on ice in real time it looked like there was some head hunting going on and given the amount of time left in the game and the score at the time I can see how Ference might overreact in this situation. Lucic clearly felt the same way at the time. I'm sure that having seen the hit since Lucic would agree that the hit was clean. In your argument you have to take into account how the situation seemed at the time on the ice, Ference and Lucic reacted to a hit that at the time with no other evidence to go by, they felt was a dirty hit and an attempt to injure. You want players on your team to stick up for each other in these situations where it's even questionable at the time. A player on the ice can't really say, well it looked like a dirty hit but I better wait for the replay. To me that also creates a game full of pussies. Just my opinion Boss.

I like the way this Null guy thinks

Was a borderline hit, and I completely agree with the team responding the way they did. When a team starts a scrum after a clean hit, then it should be punishable, but then again that would leave the refs with interpretation calls, which always are sketchy. I dont think hockey scrums after a hit will ever end, its what the game has (d)evolved to over recent years.