Los Angeles Dodgers @ Frisco Giants (3 Game Series)

[OutlawImmortal]

The Giants are like the Spurs, you think they'll eventually go away but they never do.

Yes. While I think this team is very good, as I noted in the off season numerous times they are are still a few years away from being a legit WS contender. I think the Padres and Giants will give us fits all year long as this is a three team race (Giants may fade due to injuries).

It's only April so I will reserve judgement until End of May/start of June (as I did last year) as to what this team truly is in 2015. But I'm not buying that the bullpen is revamped and playoff caliber. Nor do I think this team is built to win playoff style baseball similar to that of the Giants. There is nobody to depend on across our roster - not one player who can hang your hat on and say they will carry us today (i.e. Bumgarner). Furthermore, they fail at manufacturing runs against elite competition.

The starting rotation is stretched thin, the bullpen is not infallible and our lineup folds against elite pitching. There is nothing to indicate to me otherwise as it is 27 years and running of the same nonsense. We have a culture issue within the organization and those take years, sometimes decades to maneuver.

I'd say that's a pretty big stretch, the Dodgers just got new ownership and an all-new front office. They also got rid of the very same players you called cancers and replaced them with veteran players known for their presence in the clubhouse. Decades of the exact same culture? That's a bit nonsensical.

Bumgarner was a little gassed and was left out 1 inning too long and gave up the game tying homer, sound familar? I must admit his AB against Kershaw was, objectively speaking, a thing from beauty, especially for a pitcher.

 

[calsnowskier]

The Giants are like the Spurs, you think they'll eventually go away but they never do.



I'd say that's a pretty big stretch, the Dodgers just got new ownership and an all-new front office. They also got rid of the very same players you called cancers and replaced them with veteran players known for their presence in the clubhouse. Decades of the exact same culture? That's a bit nonsensical.

Bumgarner was a little gassed and was left out 1 inning too long and gave up the game tying homer, sound familar? I must admit his AB against Kershaw was, objectively speaking, a thing from beauty, especially for a pitcher.

Once again...

NL ball at it's finest.

 

[lasportzphan]

The Giants are like the Spurs, you think they'll eventually go away but they never do.



I'd say that's a pretty big stretch, the Dodgers just got new ownership and an all-new front office. They also got rid of the very same players you called cancers and replaced them with veteran players known for their presence in the clubhouse. Decades of the exact same culture? That's a bit nonsensical.

Bumgarner was a little gassed and was left out 1 inning too long and gave up the game tying homer, sound familar? I must admit his AB against Kershaw was, objectively speaking, a thing from beauty, especially for a pitcher.

Outlaw, I did not mean to imply it will take this ownership a decade to shift culture. Like I said, I think this team is competing in the next few years for a WS. The decade comment was referring to post O'Malley (Fox, McCourt).

Bumgarner was gassed because he's won 3 WS in 5 years.

 

[Villain]

Mattingly figured the perfect time to rest Pederson and Gonzalez was with Kershaw on the mound against the Giants. Typical.

It had nothing to do with Kershaw. It was because of Bumgarner and the fact that he owns left-handed hitters.

Bumgarner's Career SO/BB versus RHB: 3.36
Bumgarner's Career SO/BB versus LHB: 7.33

Outlaw, I did not mean to imply it will take this ownership a decade to shift culture. Like I said, I think this team is competing in the next few years for a WS. The decade comment was referring to post O'Malley (Fox, McCourt).

Bumgarner was gassed because he's won 3 WS in 5 years.

No, he was gassed because he threw 100 pitches in 6 innings.

 

[calsnowskier]

No, he was gassed because he threw 100 pitches in 6 innings.

Go check our GDT for that game. I was mentioning in the 5th that he was done, and was shocked he went out for the 6th.

Bochy messed that one up. Bum was CLEARLY tanked. 100 in 6 is a LOT of work.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

It had nothing to do with Kershaw. It was because of Bumgarner and the fact that he owns left-handed hitters.

Bumgarner's Career SO/BB versus RHB: 3.36
Bumgarner's Career SO/BB versus LHB: 7.33




No, he was gassed because he threw 100 pitches in 6 innings.

Don said after the game that he's going to try to give Adrian 15 games off for rest this season, that would lead you to believe that rest was the reason he was benched. Those are very nice splits but Gonzalez has had a hotter start to the season than just about anyone (Perhaps Guerrero has had better? he's had fairly few AB's). Heisey looked horrible in that game too.

 

[Villain]

Don said after the game that he's going to try to give Adrian 15 games off for rest this season, that would lead you to believe that rest was the reason he was benched. Those are very nice splits but Gonzalez has had a hotter start to the season than just about anyone (Perhaps Guerrero has had better? he's had fairly few AB's). Heisey looked horrible in that game too.

Well, yeah. Facing an elite left-handed is the perfect time to bench your veteran left-handed hitter. Plus, Turner started in A-Gone's place. If you remember last season, Turner absolutely owned Bumgarner. It was an easy call for Mattingly.

 

[OutlawImmortal]

Well, yeah. Facing an elite left-handed is the perfect time to bench your veteran left-handed hitter. Plus, Turner started in A-Gone's place. If you remember last season, Turner absolutely owned Bumgarner. It was an easy call for Mattingly.

Turner was 7 for 30 against the Giants last year and career .333 hitter in 18 AB's (before the last game). I guess that's "ownage".

 

[Villain]

Turner was 7 for 30 against the Giants last year and career .333 hitter in 18 AB's (before the last game). I guess that's "ownage".

I said he owned Madison Bumgarner.

Justin Turner vs. Pitchers | Baseball-Reference.com

22 Plate Apperances. OPS over 1.000.