LIV vs PGA

[foster4prez]

Unlike the PGA, the LIV makes its own schedule and worries about its own business. The PGA has been forced to give every player 500 grand to begin the season. Wait a minute, isn't that free money? I'll be darned.

It's an advance. Not free money. And not for everyone.

But thanks for playing. You never cease to impress with your ignorance.

 

[Wazmankg]

- complains about PGA Tour "bomb and gouge" guys -

- touts greatness of LIV golfers like Brooks, Bryson, and DJ -

- doesn't see a sense of irony -

My 1st thought when I saw that gem from him.

 

[Montalban]

Right. It's a complete coincidence that LIV's events are competing against the weakest field events of the PGA.

I wonder which schedule was out first??? Hmm....

Yep, those LIV guys are astute businessmen but the PGA, not so much. They've relegated many of their long time big tournaments to the back pages and its going to bite them. They are also pitting the Top tier PGA players against the journeymen players by boxing them out of the top tournaments and that's going to come to a head as well.

The one thing that might save the PGA is if LIV collapses completely which would be a shame but very well could happen..

 

[Montalban]

It's an advance. Not free money. And not for everyone.

But thanks for playing. You never cease to impress with your ignorance.

Bullshit. They keep it whether they earn it or not; so nice try.

 

[foster4prez]

Bullshit. They keep it whether they earn it or not; so nice try.

Inside the PGA Tour's new program that guarantees all exempt players will make a minimum of $500K

The PGA Tour's new Earnings Assurance Program establishes a minimum salary, with rookies and returning players getting paid up front to help budget expenses for the season

www.golfdigest.com

Like 3% of exempt players didn't hit the $500k mark last year. And those all came close. And as purses are increases, the odds of finishing exempt and without $500k is pretty much nonexistent.

 

[ill]

Inside the PGA Tour's new program that guarantees all exempt players will make a minimum of $500K

The PGA Tour's new Earnings Assurance Program establishes a minimum salary, with rookies and returning players getting paid up front to help budget expenses for the season

www.golfdigest.com

Like 3% of exempt players didn't hit the $500k mark last year. And those all came close. And as purses are increases, the odds of finishing exempt and without $500k is pretty much nonexistent.

Let him simp for the LIV. He isn't one for facts

 

[Montalban]

Inside the PGA Tour's new program that guarantees all exempt players will make a minimum of $500K

The PGA Tour's new Earnings Assurance Program establishes a minimum salary, with rookies and returning players getting paid up front to help budget expenses for the season

www.golfdigest.com

Like 3% of exempt players didn't hit the $500k mark last year. And those all came close. And as purses are increases, the odds of finishing exempt and without $500k is pretty much nonexistent.

The problem with your theory is that the journeymen, middle of the pack pros are left out of the big events and it is supposed to be moreso next year. Many will not make that 500 Grand level nor will they care much. 500 grand a year is a good salary, plus they get 5 K spending money for every tournament they play in so if a guy gets in 30 tournaments he's made 650 grand.

Take a look at the once prestigious Honda Classic, home of the Bear Trap. This tournament is now headlined by Im, Horschell and Lowry. That is a slap in the face to a long time sponsor, I believe the longest active sponsor in the PGA. Who is going to watch that group?

 

[Montalban]

Let him simp for the LIV. He isn't one for facts

We need not look any further than the headline that Foster produced where it says "Guaranteed 500 K" Sounds like guaranteed money to me. There is only one reason that happened and it doesn't start with PGA.

 

[ill]

We need not look any further than the headline that Foster produced where it says "Guaranteed 500 K" Sounds like guaranteed money to me. There is only one reason that happened and it doesn't start with PGA.

Cool, they are getting paid.

No one is watching

 

[foster4prez]

The problem with your theory is that the journeymen, middle of the pack pros are left out of the big events and it is supposed to be moreso next year. Many will not make that 500 Grand level nor will they care much. 500 grand a year is a good salary, plus they get 5 K spending money for every tournament they play in so if a guy gets in 30 tournaments he's made 650 grand.

Take a look at the once prestigious Honda Classic, home of the Bear Trap. This tournament is now headlined by Im, Horschell and Lowry. That is a slap in the face to a long time sponsor, I believe the longest active sponsor in the PGA. Who is going to watch that group?

The purse for the Honda Classic in 2023 is $8.4m with $1.5m going to the winner.

The purse in 2020 was $7m

In 2015 it was $6m

And here are the last decade of winners at this "prestigious" event.

2022 Sepp Straka 270 −10 1 $1,444,000
2021 Matt Jones 268 −12 5 $1,260,000
2020 Im Sung-jae 274 −6 1 $1,260,000
2019 Keith Mitchell 271 −9 1 $1,224,000
2018 Justin Thomas 272 −8 PO $1,188,000
2017 Rickie Fowler 268 −12 4 $1,152,000
2016 Adam Scott 271 −9 1 $1,098,000
2015 Pádraig Harrington (2) 274 −6 PO $1,098,000
2014 Russell Henley 272 −8 PO $1,080,000
2013 Michael Thompson

 

[Montalban]

Cool, they are getting paid.

No one is watching

Yep. You are right. No one is watching

 

[Montalban]

The purse for the Honda Classic in 2023 is $8.4m with $1.5m going to the winner.

The purse in 2020 was $7m

In 2015 it was $6m

And here are the last decade of winners at this "prestigious" event.

2022 Sepp Straka 270 −10 1 $1,444,000
2021 Matt Jones 268 −12 5 $1,260,000
2020 Im Sung-jae 274 −6 1 $1,260,000
2019 Keith Mitchell 271 −9 1 $1,224,000
2018 Justin Thomas 272 −8 PO $1,188,000
2017 Rickie Fowler 268 −12 4 $1,152,000
2016 Adam Scott 271 −9 1 $1,098,000
2015 Pádraig Harrington (2) 274 −6 PO $1,098,000
2014 Russell Henley 272 −8 PO $1,080,000
2013 Michael Thompson

See, I told you the PGA is boring. Can't wait to watch the likes of Aaron Wise, Chris Kirk, Min Woo Lee and ALex Noren battle it out this year.

 

[Wazmankg]

The problem with your theory is that the journeymen, middle of the pack pros are left out of the big events and it is supposed to be moreso next year. Many will not make that 500 Grand level nor will they care much. 500 grand a year is a good salary, plus they get 5 K spending money for every tournament they play in so if a guy gets in 30 tournaments he's made 650 grand.

Take a look at the once prestigious Honda Classic, home of the Bear Trap. This tournament is now headlined by Im, Horschell and Lowry. That is a slap in the face to a long time sponsor, I believe the longest active sponsor in the PGA. Who is going to watch that group?

LOL... in what alternate universe was The Honda Classic ever one of the PGA Tour's "prestige" events?

 

[foster4prez]

See, I told you the PGA is boring. Can't wait to watch the likes of Aaron Wise, Chris Kirk, Min Woo Lee and ALex Noren battle it out this year.

Obviously its much better to go watch Eugenio Chacarra, Sihwan Kim, Chase Koepka, and Jediah Morgan go head to head.

LMFAO.

 

[Montalban]

LOL... in what alternate universe was The Honda Classic ever one of the PGA Tour's "prestige" events?

Yes. Jack Nicklaus Bear Trap was there. All the big names came there. They are the longest running sponsor on the PGA and when you fuck over your best customers you end up paying for your short sighted strategy of destroying LIV.

 

[Montalban]

Obviously its much better to go watch Eugenio Chacarra, Sihwan Kim, Chase Koepka, and Jediah Morgan go head to head.

LMFAO.

You just destroyed your own argument. With LIV, unlike the PGA, you get all their stars in every tournament. Didn't Chacarra just win on the DP World Tour? LOL! You've gotta do better than that kiddo.

 

[Money]

Yep, those LIV guys are astute businessmen but the PGA, not so much. They've relegated many of their long time big tournaments to the back pages and its going to bite them. They are also pitting the Top tier PGA players against the journeymen players by boxing them out of the top tournaments and that's going to come to a head as well.

The one thing that might save the PGA is if LIV collapses completely which would be a shame but very well could happen..

I think what you meant to say was:

Yes, LIV intentionally schedules it's events against the weakest the PGA has to offer. It's their only chance to get at least a few viewers.

 

[Money]

See, I told you the PGA is boring. Can't wait to watch the likes of Aaron Wise, Chris Kirk, Min Woo Lee and ALex Noren battle it out this year.

What??? You have LIV to watch...remember? They purposely scheduled their first event for this week.

 

[Montalban]

What??? You have LIV to watch...remember? They purposely scheduled their first event for this week.

Cool. I used to use that type of comeback in the third grade; Good memories.

 

[ill]

Cool. I used to use that type of comeback in the third grade; Good memories.

...what comeback?

what are you even talking about?