Let's talk shootout moves

[forty_three]

We've all seen Daugevans' move.

Here's Mason Raymond from last night.

NHL Rule 24.2:
The puck must be kept in motion towards the opponent’s goal line and once it is shot, the play shall be considered complete.

and

The spin-o-rama type move where the player completes a 360° turn as he approaches the goal, shall be permitted as this involves continuous motion. However, should the puck come to a complete stop at any time during the shot attempt, the shot shall be stopped and no goal will be the result.

What say you?

 

[evolver115]

Should not have counted. Thought the same watching it on NHL tonight, last nite. Puck clearly stopped, and actually moved away from Bobs prior to the shot.

 

[Slimpikins]

Moves like Jagr?

 

[DChero]

BS. It's not a fluent move with the puck and the puck obviously stops.

 

[mattola]

puck stopped no goal and canucks should have had a chance to win it on the 3rd canuck shooter. but no goal I said it at the moment it happened.

 

[forty_three]

Moves like Jagr?

LOL.

This song got my 6 year old on the Jumbo Tron during a TV timeout. She does have, and this was a surprise to me, the moves like either Jagr or Jagger.



Anyway, it happened 40 or so feet in front of me and I waved it off in the stands. I could not believe that they counted it. The Jackets bench went insane.

Not a stellar night for officiating anyway. That game should have never gotten to a shootout. 3 HUGE calls were missed. Boll headshot someone. Nothing. Calvert got charged and boarded and got a bloody nose and it was only two, and Henry got his stick so far under Bob's mask that he cut Bob's eyebrow. Nothing. Saw a replay this morning that showed neither ref was even looking.

And one they did call, a Canucks player threw himself into the boards. Turrible. Jus' turrible.

 

[mattola]

LOL.

This song got my 6 year old on the Jumbo Tron during a TV timeout. She does have, and this was a surprise to me, the moves like either Jagr or Jagger.



Anyway, it happened 40 or so feet in front of me and I waved it off in the stands. I could not believe that they counted it. The Jackets bench went insane.

Not a stellar night for officiating anyway. That game should have never gotten to a shootout. 3 HUGE calls were missed. Boll headshot someone. Nothing. Calvert got charged and boarded and got a bloody nose and it was only two, and Henry got his stick so far under Bob's mask that he cut Bob's eyebrow. Nothing. Saw a replay this morning that showed neither ref was even looking.

And one they did call, a Canucks player threw himself into the boards. Turrible. Jus' turrible.

you are referring to the Garrisson on the last one? you mentioned last night that he jumped before he got hit and he did not. but it certainly looked worse than it did. Again Im jsut not sure how you call highstick when bob was the one on the ground at a waist level stick. I just dont see how they call that, I know you will say careless use of stick (as it was being controlled by the BJ sticks direction) but if a stick is on the ice and an opposing player falls and slides into it is it highsticking still?

that being said there were so many calls and non calls that didnt make sense.

David BOOTHless's penalty at the start for that simple stick tap.... 2 mins
Henrik Sedin gets his stick broken in half in direct line of sight for the ref nothing.
Alex Burrows gets his stick held by a BJ in a chicken wing and he has to let go of it in front of a ref no call
burrows runs luongo and no call... oh wait......
the hit on the BJ by Kassian is the one I assume you think should have been 5?
not sure on that. he glanced him off the side and didnt drive him thats 2 mins.
I thought AV could have gotten a couple different bench minors for going off on the refs (he got it worse in Calgary for being less vocal)
I saw alot of holds as well that Vancouver didnt get called for and stick slashing (the precedent was set in BOOTHless's penatly at the start then it didnt matter how hard you slashed a stick doesnt make sense)
I also saw a ton of stick work on the sedins and burrows and punching and grabbing and nothing.

those refs really need to be fired.

 

[forty_three]

you are referring to the Garrisson on the last one? you mentioned last night that he jumped before he got hit and he did not. but it certainly looked worse than it did. Again Im jsut not sure how you call highstick when bob was the one on the ground at a waist level stick. I just dont see how they call that, I know you will say careless use of stick (as it was being controlled by the BJ sticks direction) but if a stick is on the ice and an opposing player falls and slides into it is it highsticking still?

that being said there were so many calls and non calls that didnt make sense.

David BOOTHless's penalty at the start for that simple stick tap.... 2 mins
Henrik Sedin gets his stick broken in half in direct line of sight for the ref nothing.
Alex Burrows gets his stick held by a BJ in a chicken wing and he has to let go of it in front of a ref no call
burrows runs luongo and no call... oh wait......
the hit on the BJ by Kassian is the one I assume you think should have been 5?
not sure on that. he glanced him off the side and didnt drive him thats 2 mins.
I thought AV could have gotten a couple different bench minors for going off on the refs (he got it worse in Calgary for being less vocal)
I saw alot of holds as well that Vancouver didnt get called for and stick slashing (the precedent was set in BOOTHless's penatly at the start then it didnt matter how hard you slashed a stick doesnt make sense)
I also saw a ton of stick work on the sedins and burrows and punching and grabbing and nothing.

those refs really need to be fired.

That was kind of funny, the reason it was in the line of sight is because they were jabbing at each other all the way down the ice, and the ref was focused on them. Looked like Henry was bitching to the ref when his stick got whapped.

Looked to me like he said something to the ref and the ref replied. then he threw the broken stick. In my head that was "quit your whining you pansy".


Doesn't make it right, but it was funny. I was stunned that was no call. My entire section was like "Oh, no."

The stick fouls were BAD the whole game. And granted I was in the end seats in the zone the Jackets defended twice, so a lot I didn't see up close at the far end. I did see Tyutin get physically yanked backwards by a hook in the third behind the net. And crazy stick holding both ways. Like I said in the GNT, Johansen got so pissed at Sedin holding the stick that he hard-core punched the back of his head and drove his face to the glass. He did stop doing it after that.

As for the stick to Bob's face, yeah the defender leveraged Sedin but had Sedin not been hooking, it wouldn't have happened. :P

I think the ones they did call were just as bad as what they didn't. The Garrison dive (I didn't say jumped, I said he was already moving towards the boards upon seeing Johansen coming,and when he got tapped he accelerated himself into the board). The "trip" on Brassard out of a scrum (was probably more like cross checking by a defender). The first "slashing" call.

And I thought the the hit on Scut Farkas could have been a double because of the blood. But apparently there is no provision in the rule book for boarding. Only stick fouls. Ironically.

 

[mattola]

did see Tyutin get physically yanked backwards by a hook in the third behind the net

yeah I remember that one

And I thought the the hit on Scut Farkas could have been a double because of the blood. But apparently there is no provision in the rule book for boarding. Only stick fouls. Ironically.

ah I get what you mean now.

As for the stick to Bob's face, yeah the defender leveraged Sedin but had Sedin not been hooking, it wouldn't have happened. :P

hooking or battling for position with sticks crossed. happens alot.

 

[puckhead]

Kane with another one standing still in the slot for a half an hour.
actually lost the puck, but took the time to regain it and score the game winner.

I'm telling you, at this point there is pretty much nothing that they would disallow

 

[forty_three]

Kane with another one standing still in the slot for a half an hour.
actually lost the puck, but took the time to regain it and score the game winner.

I'm telling you, at this point there is pretty much nothing that they would disallow

The replay showed the puck didn't really stop, although his feet kinda did.

But Johansen did the same thing, or real similar.



Either way, after that third and OT it's a fucking shame that game was decided with a shootout.

 

[elocomotive]

Anyway, it happened 40 or so feet in front of me and I waved it off in the stands. I could not believe that they counted it. The Jackets bench went insane.

"And the referee's are over to the scorer's table. They have the headphones on, so let's see what the call is. Hopefully this will be a pretty quick all on th... What is... well, it looks like they are pointing at some fan in the 6th row.... woah.. he has waved off the goal, Bill."

 

[BOSSMANPC]

That should not have counted because clearly he stopped and moved away (just a little) from the goal.

Some of these moves are making the game look like a circus, go ahead and call me an old traditional guy but that's what I like and sure as hell don't want to see the NHL turn into the NBA.

It reminds me of those stupid slam dunk contest, big deal a 6'8" guy can slam the ball through the 10' rim. Show me a player that can sink five or six three point shots in a row. JMO

 

[mooger_35]

penalty shot but nice regardless. Mason's jockstrap is in row 3.

/maybe AV will even let him take a pk or 2

 

[forty_three]

"And the referee's are over to the scorer's table. They have the headphones on, so let's see what the call is. Hopefully this will be a pretty quick all on th... What is... well, it looks like they are pointing at some fan in the 6th row.... woah.. he has waved off the goal, Bill."

They didn't even consult me. I was screaming "Don't you know who I am?"

 

[BOSSMANPC]

I love this one because Vanek just rips a slap shot and the goalie never expected it . It seems like Huet expected him to fake the slapper then deke. Nothing fancy but it worked. It's an oldie but goodie.

Edit: I wonder why more players don't do this, esp if the goalie is deep in the crease. Huets expression is Priceless.

 

[mattola]

Kane with another one standing still in the slot for a half an hour.
actually lost the puck, but took the time to regain it and score the game winner.

I'm telling you, at this point there is pretty much nothing that they would disallow

didnt look like the puck stopped at all. just slowed a but

The replay showed the puck didn't really stop, although his feet kinda did.

But Johansen did the same thing, or real similar.



Either way, after that third and OT it's a fucking shame that game was decided with a shootout.

or um what he said

"And the referee's are over to the scorer's table. They have the headphones on, so let's see what the call is. Hopefully this will be a pretty quick all on th... What is... well, it looks like they are pointing at some fan in the 6th row.... woah.. he has waved off the goal, Bill."

this was awesome

 

[mooger_35]

Rolston used that as well...

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[puckhead]

penalty shot but nice regardless. Mason's jockstrap is in row 3.

/maybe AV will even let him take a pk or 2

other than the brief swoop-over, that's his same move that never works.
if the goalie doesn't bite on the first move, Henrik is in too close with no options.



kind of like the very rare Mason Raymond wraparound that works.... it only encourages him
what a rocket MayRay had last night though. holy moley.

 

[mooger_35]

Ya, we've seen that move numerous times with no success. Had to work once I guess.

And you are right... Mason with a bomb. His shot seems improved this year.