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And if that's the case, I take team A. lol
 

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My guess is SDSU is team A. I remember their resume lacking in top 50 wins. Beat Creighton and Kansas, and lost to AZ(the 3 top 25 teams)

Winner!!! I was surprised by how CLOSE these 2 teams resumes were when I looked at it. Id probably have SDSU as a 5 or 6 and GW as a 7 right now but its close.
 

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My guess is SDSU is team A. I remember their resume lacking in top 50 wins. Beat Creighton and Kansas, and lost to AZ(the 3 top 25 teams)

That was my guess for a while but they def have more wins.


I can't for the life of me think of a team that has 19 wins and only played 21 games.
 

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Winner!!! I was surprised by how CLOSE these 2 teams resumes were when I looked at it. Id probably have SDSU as a 5 or 6 and GW as a 7 right now but its close.

Sorry dude but SDSU has 21 wins.

They were one of my first guesses til I though of that.

Ironically Creighton SDSU and GW all played in the same tournament.

George Washington really isn't very good.
 

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Sorry dude but SDSU has 21 wins.

They were one of my first guesses til I though of that.

Ironically Creighton SDSU and GW all played in the same tournament.

George Washington really isn't very good.

2 of their wins dont count because they were vs non D1 teams. :) tricky tricky... LOL.
 

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Winner!!! I was surprised by how CLOSE these 2 teams resumes were when I looked at it. Id probably have SDSU as a 5 or 6 and GW as a 7 right now but its close.

It is rather surprising. Gaudy records tend to cloud our judgment on what a team's true seed should be. For instance Wichita St(just off the top of my head) is only 3-0 vs the top 50(might be 4-0) not sure. They don't have great wins per se, but that record looks very good. By the end of the year I would expect SDSU to take a couple more losses and if that's the case they will be a 4 or 5 b/c they don't have a lot of great wins.
 

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2 of their wins dont count because they were vs non D1 teams. :) tricky tricky... LOL.

lol well espn and cbs both list it as that.

I knew just last night when we were talking about the Wyoming loss that I saw them listed with more than 20 wins.
 

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Sorry dude but SDSU has 21 wins.

They were one of my first guesses til I though of that.

Ironically Creighton SDSU and GW all played in the same tournament.

George Washington really isn't very good.

It is ironic that they all were in that same tournament, along with Marquette and Miami. As for GW, they aren't great by any stretch, but they have a solid resume up to this point. They'd be in the 7-9 range based on their resume IMO, which would comfortably put them in. A-10 is really solid this year, should get 4 or 5 bids.
 

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It is ironic that they all were in that same tournament, along with Marquette and Miami. As for GW, they aren't great by any stretch, but they have a solid resume up to this point. They'd be in the 7-9 range based on their resume IMO, which would comfortably put them in. A-10 is really solid this year, should get 4 or 5 bids.

I guess I am just not high on the A-10 really either. They get the gaudy computer numbers because they schedule smart out of conference.

GW did beat Creighton(took a once in a season dud from Dougie Fresh) but they also got their doors blown off by Marquette and we can't blow the doors off anyone lol.

I just think throw them in with some of the big boys with all these athletes and they are in trouble. Very good defensive team though.
 

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Actually for purpose of the RPI they dont. Number 20, take a look.

NCAA College Basketball RPI Rankings - ESPN

See that's where the stupid sites need to get consistent.

I check standings to see where all the teams are sitting in their conferences and there it's 21.

Then do the resume comparison on CBS and they flash 21.

You would think it should be simple for these people to list the wins that actually count.
 

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See that's where the stupid sites need to get consistent.

I check standings to see where all the teams are sitting in their conferences and there it's 21.

Then do the resume comparison on CBS and they flash 21.

You would think it should be simple for these people to list the wins that actually count.

Yep. I actually didnt even look at ESPN beforehand I just didnt count them because I knew the committee didnt.
 

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Both teams get the same seed from me. Mostly because it's a lot easier that way. Maybe team B is 1 or 2 seeds higher, but nothing more than that
 

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Both teams get the same seed from me. Mostly because it's a lot easier that way. Maybe team B is 1 or 2 seeds higher, but nothing more than that

Now scan the rest of the thread DC and see if you are surprised :)
 

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oh I did, and I was surprised. Not shocked, though. No doubt SDSU hasn't played a tough schedule w/ the MWC being so down this year
 

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Yeah, this is just a little misleading, but I get your point.

Team A has 2 losses, and team B has 4.

And the more accurate RPI sites have SDSU's RPI at 15-18, while GW is around 32.

Those stats would be a little more inclusive in the comparison.
 

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Yeah, this is just a little misleading, but I get your point.

Team A has 2 losses, and team B has 4.

And the more accurate RPI sites have SDSU's RPI at 15-18, while GW is around 32.

Those stats would be a little more inclusive in the comparison.

Really?? Everyone I looked at had the spread at no more than 7 spots... Maybe some of them hadnt updated since the loss last night??
 

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I see realtime has them 11 spots apart BUT didnt want to list RPI's because then people would cheat :) LOL. Anyway the point stands that they probably arent more than 2 lines different on the seeding charts if you look simply at results.
 

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Really?? Everyone I looked at had the spread at no more than 7 spots... Maybe some of them hadnt updated since the loss last night??

I looked at both NCAA and CBS, and both had them pretty far apart. And both had updated. Again, I get what you are saying, but it was just SDSU's 2nd loss, compared to GW's 4, with similar SOSs.
 
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