Kings interested in Dustin Byfuglien

[CaptHowdy00]

Report: At least two teams still interested in extremely skilled defenseman.

 

[davnlaguna]

At what cost
I don't think the Kings could keep him after this season
So what do they give up for a very nice rental

 

[Kings4OT]

At what cost
I don't think the Kings could keep him after this season
So what do they give up for a very nice rental

As long as it isn't insane then I really don't care, after watching McDufus last night playing for the 1st time in 14? games it is clear we could really use Buf. There is no "at the cost of the future" excuse at this time.....this is our time lets do what is necessary to give them the best shot at another cup

 

[smackdown380]

I would not give up Mersh or Kempe but on the current roster I would move Pearson. I don't see how this can get done without some serious cap magic.

 

[CaptHowdy00]

We will even give them Brown. Did you see him score two goals lastnight?

 

[Kings4OT]

We will even give them Brown. Did you see him score two goals lastnight?

That dud can score from anywhere!

 

[Psych3man]

That dud can score from anywhere!

The "typo" of dud instead of dude absolutely ROFL!!

 

[PuckinUgly57]

Not sure what else the Kings would have to give to get him; the Kings do not have a 1st (Caroline - Sekera), 3rd (Flyers - Schenn/Lecavalier) or 7th round pick (Sharks - Livingston) in the 2016 draft but have all their 2017 draft picks.

Of the prospects I think Mersch or Kempe would need to be included as well as Pearson. The general rule of thumb for a T4 defender is a 1st/quality prospect/roster player and of course the demand for the player could up that.

I agree though, this team has maybe about 3-5 years to contend so go all in. The time is now.

 

[ouendan1]

What does the LW depth look like though if you trade Pearson & say Lucic can't be resigned?

 

[RP-29]

Buff has a $5.2M cap hit and the Kings are only just over $1M under the cap. They'd have to send at least $4.1M in active contracts/players to Winnipeg to stay under the cap. What realistic trade could be made to add Buff and not destroy their current core?

Viewing Dallas as a trade partner for Buff is more financially feasible, but I'm not so sure Jim Nill is willing to tap his prospect pool for a run this year knowing he's got a great young team now that's capable of contending for another decade.

 

[smackdown380]

Saw a name recently that the Kings might kick the tires on. Kris Russell (shoots left) of Calgary who is cheaper than Buff at $2.6 AAV

Kris Russell

 

[ouendan1]

Buff has a $5.2M cap hit and the Kings are only just over $1M under the cap. They'd have to send at least $4.1M in active contracts/players to Winnipeg to stay under the cap. What realistic trade could be made to add Buff and not destroy their current core?

Viewing Dallas as a trade partner for Buff is more financially feasible, but I'm not so sure Jim Nill is willing to tap his prospect pool for a run this year knowing he's got a great young team now that's capable of contending for another decade.

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the cap hit for the team trading for player x based on how many games they have left?

What I mean is, the Kings have played 50 games, meaning they are 61% into the regular season (50/82=.609 or 61% rounded). thus, the Kings only have about 39% of their games left and would thus be only paying Byfuglien 39% of his remaining salary & cap hit, so his cap hit for the rest of this season would be $2.02 million.

Now that still leaves about $1 million in difference, but that's much more feasible.

Again, I could be very wrong on all of this.

 

[PuckinUgly57]

Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the cap hit for the team trading for player x based on how many games they have left?

What I mean is, the Kings have played 50 games, meaning they are 61% into the regular season (50/82=.609 or 61% rounded). thus, the Kings only have about 39% of their games left and would thus be only paying Byfuglien 39% of his remaining salary & cap hit, so his cap hit for the rest of this season would be $2.02 million.

Now that still leaves about $1 million in difference, but that's much more feasible.

Again, I could be very wrong on all of this.

Correct. The cap hit at the start of the year is $5.2 million but since it is calculated daily as the season goes along the cap hit on a player gets smaller.

Case in point, when Gaborik was acquired in 2014, his cap hit based on the contract would have been $7.5 million but because he was acquired so late into the season the actual hit for LA was about only $770,000. Best $770,000 Dumbo spent, Gaborik was 3rd on the team in points and 1st in goals in the playoffs and 3rd overall in league scoring.

If your numbers are correct than Byfuglien would be roughly a $2 million cap hit for the remainder of the season, which is far more manageable than if it were at $5.2 million or whatever.

 

[Kings4OT]

What does the LW depth look like though if you trade Pearson & say Lucic can't be resigned?

A better question would be what does our depth look like with Pearson in the lineup.....

 

[CaptHowdy00]

I'm a bit tired of threading away picks. This strategy is reminiscent of the 70s, 80s and 90s except for the fact that the players picked up are not over the hill like they used to be. But I still think that Deanno needs to hold on to the 2017 picks. I don't believe the Kings have a 1st in 2016 and if Looch does not resign then the Mings lost out on the 13th pick last year.

 

[Kings4OT]

I understand Capt, but consider how many picks the Kings have had since they came into the league and how long it took to get a team that can win a cup. The time is now until these guys cant do it anymore, then you worry about rebuild. Its not like they have 0 picks or youth, it really isn't a big deal if the Kings don't have a 1st...how many #1 picks are in Edmonton? Having top picks doesn't equal winning. When your chance to win is gone its not going to matter what round you got your players in.

 

[PuckinUgly57]

The Kings have had some luck in the later rounds as well under Dumbo (Simmonds - 2nd 2007, King and Martinez 4th 2007, Voynov - 2nd 2008, Nolan - 7th 2008, Miller - 5th 2012 now playing for Boston from the Lucic deal, etc.) and even before with Taylor (Quick - 3rd 2005, Visnovsky - 4th 2000, Tsyplakov - 3rd 1996) and beyond. The gems are there in the later rounds, it's a team's management's job to have a good scouting and development in place to identify, draft and turn them into NHL players.

Quality is best, so of course a 1st or 2nd rounder will have a better chance of producing but considering where the Kings are - contenders - their 1st round picks would be late anyway, like Pearson for example who is a 1st round pick (30th overall 2012) and using Pearson again, there is no definitive proof that 1st round pick will be anything. The odds are greater, yes, but no guarantee.

The stage the Kings are in now, it's win now mode so if a deal to improve the Kings exists that gets them closer to a third Cup in 5 years, make that deal. This team has about 3 legitimate good years left, make the most of it.

 

[pete6835]

The Winnipeg Jets have signed star defenceman Dustin Byfuglien to a five-year contract extension worth $38 million.

Jets sign Dustin Byfuglien to five-year contract extension - Sportsnet.ca