Kentucky just lost to Evansville

[rmilia1]

Evansville hasn't been good since they lost their team in a plane crash in 1977.

Sportscenter was pretty shitty to Evansville today. They were making fun of them for celebrating. They said "it's only 1 game, not a championship". This is huge for a small school with 2000 students.

The Air Indiana Flight 216 crash occurred on December 13, 1977, at 19:22 CST, when a Douglas DC-3, registration N51071 carrying the University of Evansville basketball team, crashed on takeoff at the Evansville Regional Airport in Evansville, Indiana. The aircraft lost control and crashed shortly after lift-off.[1] The plane was on its way to Nashville International Airport, taking the team to play the Middle Tennessee Blue Raiders.

The National Transportation Safety Board blamed the crash on the pilot's failure to remove gust locks on the right aileron and the rudder before takeoff, as well as an overloaded baggage compartment. The NTSB report said that the plane might have been able to stay airborne had only one of the problems existed. As it was, the extra baggage shifted the plane's center of gravity to the back end, and the locked rudder and aileron made it impossible to control the overweight aircraft.

The only member of the Purple Aces who did not die in the crash was David Furr; he was out for the season with an ankle injury and thus was not on the plane that day. But just two weeks after the crash, Furr and his younger brother Byron were killed in a car accident near Newton, Illinois, leaving the entire 1977 Evansville team dead.[2]

A memorial has been constructed at the University of Evansville known as the "Weeping Basketball." On stone slabs are engraved the names of the players who were killed, including Furr. (The final name on the monument is that of Charles Goad of the Goad Equipment Company, invited on the flight by his friend Bob Hudson.) Also engraved is an excerpt from the eulogy delivered by school president Wallace Graves at a memorial service: "Out of the agony of this hour we will rise."

Thats like some Final Destination shit there

 

[ericd7633]

I can't get behind the opinion that a loss in regular season is worse than a loss by a #1 seed to a #16 seed in the first round of the NCAA Tournament. Yeah, UMBC was a better team, but Virginia was the best team all year long and was the overall #1 team in the country based off of an entire seasons worth of play. This is the 3rd game of the season for Kentucky. This doesn't take the chance at a title away from Kentucky.

UVA lost their best player two days before the tournament started. Also, the spread was larger in the UK game. UK's loss was worse.

 

[Yo Tee]

UVA lost their best player two days before the tournament started. Also, the spread was larger in the UK game. UK's loss was worse.

I disagree. A 20-loss by the best ranked team in the country in the first round of the NCAA tournament to a #16 seed is worse than a 3 point loss in the team's 3rd regular season game. And it's not like UMBC ran away with the entire game, it was a tied game after the first half. UMBC outscored VA 53-33 in the 2nd half. The VA loss cost them a championship. The Kentucky loss doesn't.

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

The UK loss, while memorable now, will mean absolutely zilch come March/April.

 

[ericd7633]

I disagree. A 20-loss by the best ranked team in the country in the first round of the NCAA tournament to a #16 seed is worse than a 3 point loss in the team's 3rd regular season game. And it's not like UMBC ran away with the entire game, it was a tied game after the first half. UMBC outscored VA 53-33 in the 2nd half. The VA loss cost them a championship. The Kentucky loss doesn't.

In terms of upset UK's was worse.

 

[Yo Tee]

In terms of upset UK's was worse.

I disagree.

3-point loss in the 3rd regular-season game
20 point loss to a #16 seed in the first round of the NCAA Tournament.

 

[SU Nittany Tide]

UVA lost their best player two days before the tournament started. Also, the spread was larger in the UK game. UK's loss was worse.

Incorrect.

 

[ericd7633]

I disagree.

3-point loss in the 3rd regular-season game
20 point loss to a #16 seed in the first round of the NCAA Tournament.

The time of the game doesn't matter. Kentucky was a bigger spread. This Evansville team, at least going into the game, was/is worse than UMBC.

 

[ericd7633]

Incorrect.

An opinion based on two facts? Okay then.

 

[Yo Tee]

The time of the game doesn't matter. Kentucky was a bigger spread. This Evansville team, at least going into the game, was/is worse than UMBC.

You have to take the time of the season that the game is played into consideration. This doesn't cost Kentucky a National Championship. The loss to UMBC did cost Virginia a National Championship. Nobody, especially Kentucky, will be thinking about this loss when they are in the sweet 16 this year. Everyone will remember UMBC beating Virginia because of how UMBC beat Virginia. Outscoring them by 20 points in the 2nd half? It's a no brainer, in my opinion.

 

[Myles]

You have to take the time of the season that the game is played into consideration. This doesn't cost Kentucky a National Championship. The loss to UMBC did cost Virginia a National Championship. Nobody, especially Kentucky, will be thinking about this loss when they are in the sweet 16 this year. Everyone will remember UMBC beating Virginia because of how UMBC beat Virginia. Outscoring them by 20 points in the 2nd half? It's a no brainer, in my opinion.

Also, wasn't it the first time a 1 seed was beaten by a 16 seed?

 

[michaeljordan_fan]

Also, wasn't it the only time a 1 seed was beaten by a 16 seed?

FIFY

 

[Jordan23]

You have to take the time of the season that the game is played into consideration. This doesn't cost Kentucky a National Championship. The loss to UMBC did cost Virginia a National Championship. Nobody, especially Kentucky, will be thinking about this loss when they are in the sweet 16 this year. Everyone will remember UMBC beating Virginia because of how UMBC beat Virginia. Outscoring them by 20 points in the 2nd half? It's a no brainer, in my opinion.

I get the time of the season and that’s why I said cause of the tourney and the situation you could consider the Virginia loss a bigger upset due to the fact that it cost them a title shot. If you are going on pure 1 on 1 matchup of the 2 teams playing then the Kentucky loss was the bigger upset.

 

[Myles]

I get the time of the season and that’s why I said cause of the tourney and the situation you could consider the Virginia loss a bigger upset due to the fact that it cost them a title shot. If you are going on pure 1 on 1 matchup of the 2 teams playing then the Kentucky loss was the bigger upset.

I can see that. This could change as the season goes on too. If Evansville goes 11-22 on the season, it will be considered a bigger upset than if they win their conference and make the tourney.

 

[Yo Tee]

I get the time of the season and that’s why I said cause of the tourney and the situation you could consider the Virginia loss a bigger upset due to the fact that it cost them a title shot. If you are going on pure 1 on 1 matchup of the 2 teams playing then the Kentucky loss was the bigger upset.

If it were both regular-season games, then yes, Kentucky is the bigger upset of the two. But they weren't, hence why I think the Virginia loss is much more of a bigger loss/upset.

 

[Hitman Hart]

@ericd7633 isn't arguing that Evansville/UK is a more historic and noteworthy upset than UMBC/UVa.

he's arguing it is a bigger upset b/c

1.) 2020 Evansville is a worse team than 2018 UMBC.
2.) the spread for Evansville/UK was larger

more historic and memorable isn't the same thing as bigger

 

[Yo Tee]

@ericd7633 isn't arguing that Evansville/UK is a more historic and noteworthy upset than UMBC/UVa.

he's arguing it is a bigger upset b/c

1.) 2020 Evansville is a worse team than 2018 UMBC.
2.) the spread for Evansville/UK was larger

more historic and memorable isn't the same thing as bigger

Even saying that, it's still not bigger because it doesn't cost Kentucky a National Championship. That doesn't make it memorable or historic, that makes it a BIGGER loss. A more substantial loss. A more important loss.

 

[Hitman Hart]

Even saying that, it's still not bigger because it doesn't cost Kentucky a National Championship. That doesn't make it memorable or historic, that makes it a BIGGER loss. A more substantial loss. A more important loss.

lol, he's not arguing that it isn't a bigger loss. he's arguing that it was a bigger upset.

in the current context, loss and upset aren't the same thing. something can be a more substantial loss, while also being less of an upset.

 

[ericd7633]

@Hitman Hart comin from the top rope!

 

[PickleRick]

Regular season isnt as important because not every game is a must win. However its still better for fans becsuse you get better OOC games AND even if you lose your season isnt ostensibly over 20% of the way into the year. I love the intensity of CFB but that really only lasts til your team loses a few times. After that its pretty boring.

Unless your bama.