KC VS AS deals.

[deanpet21]

Kirk Cousins and Alex Smith's contracts side-by-side: Who did better?

 

[skinsdad62]

who cares ? we have CDC , KC is a vike , contracts dont matter

 

[Wamu]

Just wondering how many Redskins fans think Smith is an upgrade over Cousins? I don't know all the details but I find it bizarre Washington didn't want to keep Captain Kirk.

 

[Sharkinva]

Just wondering how many Redskins fans think Smith is an upgrade over Cousins? I don't know all the details but I find it bizarre Washington didn't want to keep Captain Kirk.

You will NEVER get an accurate answer on that for the following reason.

You have fans that never wanted Cousins as our QB so they will say Smith is an upgrade. Any one that says Smith isnt an upgrade will automatically be labeled a Cousins lover.

 

[skinsdad62]

its a down grade plain and simple

 

[Breed]

Can't say who won or who is the who they are talking about, but if the Redskins are in the mix. I'd say they lost. 84 million dollars spent on QBing in the last 3 years. 43 million of which was paid to a player who they apparently never wanted in the first place.

Ass backwards and nonsensical.

 

[gkekoa]

We should have stopped reading when it said after the 2015 season, the Redskins didn’t want to pay 58.5 million in guaranteed money. Can somebody, anybody, show me where KC asked for that?

 

[skinsdad62]

The 5 O’Clock Club: How long will Alex Smith be a Redskin, based on his contract?

more on the contract , we are married to him for 3 years

 

[gkekoa]

The 5 O’Clock Club: How long will Alex Smith be a Redskin, based on his contract?

more on the contract , we are married to him for 3 years

Like I have been saying. You have to count the rolled over cap of years four and five into AS three years to compare it to KC. That makes the yearly cap hits only three mil per season in difference.

 

[Stymietee]

Just wondering how many Redskins fans think Smith is an upgrade over Cousins? I don't know all the details but I find it bizarre Washington didn't want to keep Captain Kirk.

It's neither an upgrade nor a downgrade, it a wash. Each player gives something that the other doesn't.

There were a few here who correctly detailed what the situation was here regarding Kirk as far back as the 2015 season. Some regarded it as a personal thing while others saw it from a strictly business perspective. Ironically, when deals like this fall apart it becomes personal at some level.

 

[gkekoa]

It's neither an upgrade nor a downgrade, it a wash. Each player gives something that the other doesn't.

There were a few here who correctly detailed what the situation was here regarding Kirk as far back as the 2015 season. Some regarded it as a personal thing while others saw it from a strictly business perspective. Ironically, when deals like this fall apart it becomes personal at some level.

Not a wash. You can’t compare a coward to a QB.

 

[Stymietee]

Not a wash. You can’t compare a coward to a QB.

Why so rough on Kirk?

 

[Sportster 72]

I think the ironic thing is Kirk would have signed this contract in 2015 and he would have 3 more years left on the deal taking him to age 33. A year younger than Smith is now.

So take out the Cousin's part and this is team friendly contract based on the direction QB salaries are going. BUT as I mentioned you could have had have had Cousin's for the same time period and same money. The difference is Cousin's would have been a FA after the next three years whereas with or without Smith he will still get paid some part of that contract.

But we have to roll with what we have. So welcome Alex, good luck Kirk. Lets play some ball. We need to get some OLBs, CBs (maybe), WRs (in my opinion), more DL, OL depth and a RB.

 

[Rowdy]

We should have stopped reading when it said after the 2015 season, the Redskins didn’t want to pay 58.5 million in guaranteed money. Can somebody, anybody, show me where KC asked for that?

I heard kirks counter offer in 2016 was 3 yr fully guaranteed. That may’ve been 58.5 m

 

[gkekoa]

I heard kirks counter offer in 2016 was 3 yr fully guaranteed. That may’ve been 58.5 m

Show me the source. I never heard that.

 

[Rowdy]

Heard it on Cooley and Kevin

 

[Rowdy]

Report: Redskins Rejected $19.5M Cousins Deal in 2016

This is pretty close here

 

[Stymietee]

I think the ironic thing is Kirk would have signed this contract in 2015 and he would have 3 more years left on the deal taking him to age 33. A year younger than Smith is now.

So take out the Cousin's part and this is team friendly contract based on the direction QB salaries are going. BUT as I mentioned you could have had have had Cousin's for the same time period and same money. The difference is Cousin's would have been a FA after the next three years whereas with or without Smith he will still get paid some part of that contract.

But we have to roll with what we have. So welcome Alex, good luck Kirk. Lets play some ball. We need to get some OLBs, CBs (maybe), WRs (in my opinion), more DL, OL depth and a RB.

Although I "liked" this I disagree that Kirk would have signed a contract once the original failed negotiation following the 2014 season happened. Believing that he would is also fair just a bit less creditable than positions taken by the few who said "never" proved to be on point, because it never happened.

 

[Sharkinva]

When you have three years to come up with a contract the player will sign, and you fail to sign the player... its probably because you didnt want to sign the player.

It took all of three days (max) for the Redskins to negotiate a deal with Alex Smith.

Let that marinate.

 

[gkekoa]

Report: Redskins Rejected $19.5M Cousins Deal in 2016

This is pretty close here

Significant is far from fully guaranteed.